Isnt he on a 30 year contract at chelsea??
Cole Palmer
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Ok let's get pendantic for a moment. If he's one of the best in the world at Chelsea then he's their best player, no? Mount also won that accolade and we got burned. It's a genuine concern for some people based on prior history.Hmmm.
I could have sworn he said "one of the best players in the world for two seasons".
"One of Chelsea's best players for two seasons" is an interesting misquote, Mr Pigeon
Also note that I wasn't attempting to insult the dude when I was replying, nor was I trying to goad him, because I have a magical quality known locally on the Caf as "not posting like a dickhead on a football forum."
Palmer would be an excellent signing. He could play a number of positions for us.
He'd also be the perfect long term replacement for Bruno.
That said we have bigger priorities this summer. Replacing Casemiro with a top player has to be the biggest priority and I'd also imagine they'd be considering replacing Luke Shaw who has at times showed he can no longer keep up with teams with pacey counter attacks.
He'd also be the perfect long term replacement for Bruno.
That said we have bigger priorities this summer. Replacing Casemiro with a top player has to be the biggest priority and I'd also imagine they'd be considering replacing Luke Shaw who has at times showed he can no longer keep up with teams with pacey counter attacks.
Agree 100%.
However, with Bruno taking penalties, that removes a huge part of his G/A output.
The fitness concerns are legitimate and significant.
The contract / price concerns, especially relative to the current state of the clubs finances vs the needs of the squad are significant also.
I'm not arguing that he is in any way a bad player. But it is objectively a bad move for United given he may end up as another Mason Mount and prevent us from strengthening in the real key need areas of the pitch.
He is exactly the type of signing Woodward would have gone for.
Why the left footed part?
I don’t rate him as high as a lot of people. Good player but we be mad to spend the kind of money that it would take to sign him.
The Mount comparison is a little lazy imo. There are similarities there, both Chelsea POTYs, both coming off injuries before joining...
But that's largely anecdotal. They're different players and their situations have very little to do with eachother.
The main reason people were against the Mount signing at the time wasn't because of his injuries, it was because he wasn't particularly rated and had no obvious role in the team.
Assuming we only go for Palmer in the event Bruno leaves, Palmer will have a clear starting role, and nobody's confused about how he'll contribute to the team.
The injury needs to be addressed independently. Mount not working out has no bearing on whether Palmer will.
No smoke without fire, have been a few leaks he's not happy in the last 6 months... Probably coming from his camp.
Because United already have Amad, Mbeumo, Dorgu and Lacey. It limits the number of roles/spots/potential use-cases for Cole Palmer.
If Chelsea are making noises about being willing to sell Id be giving him the most thorough medical known to the sport. He'd be an amazing Bruno replacement IF he can stay fit which doesn't look very likely these days
I still don't get why would Chelsea sell to us one of their best players who's contracted forever.
Hard deal to pull off and if we were looking at Bruno successors I’d rather look at Yildiz, even though he’d be tough this summer too
i doubt they have any intention to sell him atm. It would take one hell of an offer to change their minds.
Yildiz is very talented but he is a natural left winger.
No.
It's weird, I should be excited by this but I'm just not. I want more players like Cunha and Amad, who can run at people and make things happen. Palmer is another player who wants the ball to feet. Maybe when Bruno leaves, but I wouldn't want us to break the bank for him this summer.
30+1
He’s actually played far more games behind the striker (27), at least this season, and has looked great there.
Ok, i stand corrected then! Watched him a few times lately in the CL and he was only playing left wing exclusively those games. But he seems versatile and creative so not too surprised.
More surprised that there is not more hype surrounding him, boy looks special
Q. if you could sell Bruno for 100m in the summer and buy Palmer for 100m and similar wages, would you do it?
I'm wondering how Palmer fits into our team with Bruno playing.
Personally, I wouldn't do it. Bruno delivers time and time again, his fitness is superb and he's a much better character and leader in the dressing room.
I like Palmer, but don't think he's the right fit here
I'm wondering how Palmer fits into our team with Bruno playing.
Personally, I wouldn't do it. Bruno delivers time and time again, his fitness is superb and he's a much better character and leader in the dressing room.
I like Palmer, but don't think he's the right fit here
Definitely not. People get too fixated on a player’s age when they're showing no signs of declining or, in Bruno's case, getting even better with age. Factor in Palmer's injury record compared to Bruno's and it's a no-brainer.
I remember when my my mate asked me last summer if I'd sell Bruno to Saudi if it financed a move for Isak to United. I replied with a firm no. He thought that was lunacy.
If Chelsea are receptive to a bid from us, we should run the feck away as far as we can
Joe Cole's vibes about him. He will have solid carrer but riddled with injuries,imo.
And let's fix our CMs first and at least one proper FB.
And let's fix our CMs first and at least one proper FB.
Hold on a minute, that‘s not always true.
There‘s plenty of examples of unhappy players doing well after they leave.
I‘m more concerned with having too many left footed players.
Perfect response. Chelsea know how to sell their lemons to us. I’d take him off their hands if they take Mount back in return.
I dont see where he fits as long as Bruno is here. We have right sided forwards who cut in on the left in Amad and Mbeumo also. We could really do with wide men who play wide to give us more options
If I remember correctly it's actually because Mount was going on his final year of his contract.
Instead of tapping him up we spent 60 million on buying him when we could have had a player on a free. It was awful business.
Maybe my memory is bad but I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
Signing Palmer is heavily dependent on our tactics after Bruno leaves.
Either we are going to want a creative number 10, or we are going to want more of a support striker.
Cunha centrally as a CAM will be more of a support striker in Zone 14.
Is Palmer all that different? I've been more impressed in his ability to score goals than really create anything.
In what?
Agreed. He's very good but buying from another big team doesn't work out as often as it seems like it should. I think Chelsea would want a fortune.
Gawd, I sure hope so. Can't believe he's been here for 12 fecking years. And spent most of them injured.
People talk about Palmers fitness - but he has missed a total of 12 league games over 3 years due to injuries (he has missed 16 in total, but 4 were due to not being picked before joining Chelsea). That is just 4 more missed matches than Bruno in the same period.
Just took a look at his stats for this season. 20 games, 9 Goals, 1 A.
But out of those 9 goals, 5 are penalties and 3 are free kicks.
Dribble success is 38%. Seems to be going through something this season.
But out of those 9 goals, 5 are penalties and 3 are free kicks.
Dribble success is 38%. Seems to be going through something this season.
My sense is that he is a fair weather player. Needs ideal conditions to succeed. No thanks. We need resilient ones at United.
My guess is that he would jump at the chance to join us and return to Manchester. Surprised so many on here would turn their noses up at him, he would be class here.
He definitely looks a slower in trying to turn from a player, and he looks resigned to making some lazy passes I normally wouldn't see him do. Not sure what it is, but it's not great for him.
You can't stretch out the timeline to suit the point. The bulk of those league games have been missed to a chronic injury from this season. That's obvious cause for concern.
Not absolutely class at all, really isn't all that and seems on a downward trajectory too. Penalties are his biggest strength currently.
Because no one is off limits for them to sell. They’re not a football club anymore, it’s just a buying and selling operation.
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What's a football club these days ?
But it would take a lot of money.