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Conor McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather | Again?
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Won't and should not happen.
Would be a disgrace to either sport.
To be fair people said Rocky shouldn't fight B.A. and that was a decent fight
So, this is happening? A disgrace of the match, but will give both boxers a lot of money.
Floyd should fight Canelo an another time instead of these pointless matches. Or if he wants a challenge, try Golovkin.
Floyd should fight Canelo an another time instead of these pointless matches. Or if he wants a challenge, try Golovkin.
I'd love to see Golovkin smash Mayweather.... 
To risky for Mayweather to consider it unfortunately
To risky for Mayweather to consider it unfortunatelyWhat's so bad about it? I'd be interested to watch that.
I know nothing about MMA or boxing, but how can they fight if they are from different forms of fighting? Also I thought Mayweather had retired?
Absolutely
Would be a farce. There is no chance they do a MMA fight, and Floyd would be too good under boxing rules.
My prediction:
It's basically a waste of time. Mayweather is arguably one of the best boxers ever and as has been implied McGregor simply isn't that level. There's only 1 winner in a boxing match...similarly there's only 1 winner in an MMA bout.
I dont think it'll happen, I think Nate Diaz was right that they're in on it together to keep each other relevant whilst both are inactive.
A waste of whose time? I think it could be entertaining. If it isn't, it isn't. I just don't understand why people would be upset by this and call it "disgraceful". It's just entertainment.
It would make a ton of money, would hardly be a waste of time. Plus it has enormous entertainment value.
Not to be sanctimonious, but I think hardcore fans of either sport will find this to be a disgrace. Mayweather coming out of retirement to box someone who wouldn't be able to land a punch. The other way around is just as ridiculous (only if this ever did go ahead, it wouldn't be in the octagon).
But it would make an awful lot of money and would probably appeal to a lot of people. Having said that, it would still be a complete farce. For instance, there are bigger fights in boxing for Mayweather without this crossover. He could fight Canelo, GGG or Garcia, (first two at catch-weight, probably) and make more money than he probably would against McGregor. If he chose Pacquiao, the difference in payoff would be almost unbelievable. So the fact that the sport's best fighter of the last generation is entertaining this, is disrespectful to the sport. It wouldn't be a boxing match, it would be a joke. But that's just my opinion.
Agreed, would be fun to watch
As Freddie Roach said: McGregor's level as a boxer is one of a young amateur. It is a total mismatch and would either be a beat down for Mcgregor or like an old school exhibition fight where the superior fighter would 'carry' the home town fighter for some rounds so the fans wouldn't demand their money back from the promoters.
Yeah, I know McGregor wouldn't stand a chance in a classical boxing match. I just don't understand how that would be an insult to the sport. If they want to fight, let them fight. What's the big deal? It's just a show. If Federer and Ronaldo decided to play a tennis match, nobody would be insulted.
It would be a circus that would make both of them a lot of money. I can see it happening for that reason. I am not too bothered if they want to do it but I will be paying no money to watch it.
This. It's being talked about like Boxing is some sort of sacred code. At it's core, it's two nutters punching each other in the face for money. Let it happen.
Exactly.
Literally all they have to do to ensure the most profitable fight in sports history is this ( I know it would be very hard to sanction but make it an exhibition , people will still pay )
Rounds 1-11 are boxing . If mcgregor can make it to round 12, then he gets one round with MMA rules . It's a really really stupid concept but so many casual fans would buy it just for the chance that mcgregor makes it there .
Rounds 1-11 are boxing . If mcgregor can make it to round 12, then he gets one round with MMA rules . It's a really really stupid concept but so many casual fans would buy it just for the chance that mcgregor makes it there .
Should be like Michael Jai White vs Yuri Boyka... 1st round only use fists, 2nd round let them kick each other... 3rd round everything permitted.
If they fight i would probably watch it just out of curiosity (for free obviously), but i'm not really bothered about the outcome. This is just a money making crap.
ps. I'm a fan of Conor the MMA fighter and trash talker, but damn he has become such an annoying character. I hope he decides soon if he wants to be a celebrity or a fighter...
If they fight i would probably watch it just out of curiosity (for free obviously), but i'm not really bothered about the outcome. This is just a money making crap.
ps. I'm a fan of Conor the MMA fighter and trash talker, but damn he has become such an annoying character. I hope he decides soon if he wants to be a celebrity or a fighter...
I would rather see a fully roided up Overeem fight Mayweather in a Pride rules MMA contest. I'd pay big money to watch that domestic abuser get his head booted clean off.
I'm no boxing expert but I think that's a flawed analogy. Imagine Federer refusing to play Djokovic and Nadal but then playing Ronaldo and embellishing it as a serious sporting contest to extort fans.
Both of these greedy wankers are a disgrace to competitive sport and I hope this fails miserably.
Fans of the two sports don't like it because it isn't actually a fight, it's a circus.
The general rule is: MMA guy beats boxer at MMA, boxer beats MMA guy at boxing. That's especially the case when the boxer is someone of Mayweather's quality. There's no substance to the fight at all, it's a forgone conclusion. So all you're left with is the worst side of the fight game: unfettered greed and ugly commercialism gone rampant.
Meanwhile, actual fights that could be made in both sports go ignored.
Anyway, I strongly suspect there's zero chance of it happening in the near future, it just suits both parties to talk about it now for various reasons.
The general rule is: MMA guy beats boxer at MMA, boxer beats MMA guy at boxing. That's especially the case when the boxer is someone of Mayweather's quality. There's no substance to the fight at all, it's a forgone conclusion. So all you're left with is the worst side of the fight game: unfettered greed and ugly commercialism gone rampant.
Meanwhile, actual fights that could be made in both sports go ignored.
Anyway, I strongly suspect there's zero chance of it happening in the near future, it just suits both parties to talk about it now for various reasons.
You really think a fight between the two is the reason they are not fighting someone else? That's just silly. They'll fight whoever they want. Sorry but you, as a fans, are not owed anything.
And how are they "extorting fans"? If you dan't want to watch, don't watch. I also son't see anything wrong with them making money. I would be trying to do the same if I were in that position.
And how are they "extorting fans"? If you dan't want to watch, don't watch. I also son't see anything wrong with them making money. I would be trying to do the same if I were in that position.
Maybe not "waste of time" (although the fact people already know the outcome kind of suggests it is) but it's a ridiculous concept. You're putting the best of his generation in a chosen sport against someone who apparently struggles against amateurs. Why is it suddenly acceptable to fight him because it's Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather? David Haye is getting slated at the moment in the boxing circuit for fighting actual boxers who aren't on his level. Canelo got slated for fighting Khan (who is an ex world champion!) Boxing has become a farce and by having it's biggest and most profitable name coming back to fight an MMA fighter people will rightfully get annoyed.
I think @sullydnl said it right really, it's literally the worst parts of the sport of boxing. People hand picking opponents and making a fortune off it. Because it's Conor McGregor though it's seen as alright, it's just a bit weird to me really.
I don't get both these arguments and they're always thrown about at stuff as well. You're just a fan of Man Utd (I assume) so you're not owed anything either? By that logic if United sold Martial and De Gea tomorrow and replaced them with the Chuckle Brothers you'd have no right to complain? You're a fan and not owed anything after all.
People have paid good money for watching the likes of McGregor and Mayweather in their careers so yes they are owed something.People want to see both fighters excel in their careers against top opposition, not in an exhibition fight where there's really only 1 winner.
The "Don't like don't watch" shite is annoying on anything as well, whether it is sport or TV shows. People are entitled to comment on stuff, so again by that logic you've never said anything bad about a United game or any sports or TV Show ever? After all the minute you find a complaint you simply don't like so don't watch?
The build up would be the only good thing with this fight.
A bit similar to....
That's not an equivalent analogy at all. It's more like United organizing a friendly against a team of pop singers instead of Barcelona. Mayweather boxing McGregor doesn't prevent either of them from fighting anyone else.
I've said plenty of bad things about United or TV shows. Usually after I've watched them but that's another matter. Anyway, that's not the same. I just expressed my bemusement as to why this is such a big deal and "an insult to the sport". If you don't find the idea itself interesting, you have every right to say that.
People are just taking it way too seriously though, in my opinion. It's an exhibition match, not a statement.
Except it does delay other fights, which is a pretty big issue when (in McGregor's case) title defenses have already been delayed to the point where the other contenders in his division will be fighting for an interim title. Or (in Mayweather's case) where he might claim the win as part of a historic unbeaten record.
Plus they aren't framing this as a "friendly", they're framing it as a legitimate fight, which is a joke.
By equal rights your tennis one wouldn't be an equivalent analogy then? In fact in fairness nothing can compare to boxing or MMA (or combat sports) really as they carry a much bigger risk of injury or damage.
Like I said, people want to see Mayweather fight top level opposition. There's literally hundreds of fighters out there boxing fans would rather see him fight. Garcia, GGG, Canelo, Pacquiao, Cotto, Khan, Brook, Broner, Bradley, Porter, Thurman, Spence...the list goes on. Mayweather isn't getting any younger either, he's realistically probably got a couple more fights left in him so surely you can understand the logic of boxing fans being slightly annoyed by the fact he's wasting one of them on the easiest fight he'd ever have? A below amateur level boxer. I'd equally be annoyed if Mayweather came back and fought an actual amateur it's not cos it's McGregor, it's the level of fighter.
McGregor has come off a loss in UFC and people wanted to see that fight again or him actually defend his title, not fight in a joke fight like this. It is going to be an issue for fans of either sport really, I don't see why people who are big fans of either or both sports are being dismissed as being over the top about it. It's the 2 biggest names in either sport deciding to compete in a mess about.
I still think Nate Diaz is right, I think they're both going to be returning to their respective sports soon and the easiest way to keep each name relevant is talk about a fight between each other. I'm pretty sure they're both in on it and it's all being done for PR reasons....it won't happen they'll both call each other bitches and that'd be the end of it.
But isn't he retired? He obviously doesn't want to fight those people. I don't see it as "McGregor or Canelo" but as "McGregor or no one". One is more of an entertainment show, the other a proper boxing match, requiring heavy training, regime etc. There is a huge difference. This is what he retired from, maybe he just doesn't want to return to that.
I understand the McGregor criticism somewhat, but not for Mayweather.
I understand the McGregor criticism somewhat, but not for Mayweather.
I basically agree with Kevin Iole:
He's "retired" before though mate. He retired after Hatton and came back and I'm sure he did it once after then as well (might of been his next fight vs. Marquez) but he always comes back. His latest retirement has come about because he had a deal with Showtime in America for a 6 fight deal, that ended with the Berto fight and then he said he was retiring. He has since copyrighted something to do with "50-0" and it's strongly thought he would come back and basically sell a couple of fights to the highest bidder, whether it be HBO or Showtime. Given the fact he is the biggest name in boxing despite currently being retired he knows he can make huge money from doing it as well even if his last fight did do awful numbers. In all honesty I've said it in the boxing thread as well it's not just this fight (that probably won't happen) it's boxing in general. At least UFC they have top level fights...boxing hasn't really had a legit exciting fight between 2 huge equal names in a long time.
With regards to the training I think Mayweather still trains pretty actively, from whenever you see him in build ups to fights he says he does it all year round really. I'm sure he's enjoying himself more but I'd be very surprised if he wasn't keeping himself fit and in boxing shape...the sport is his life.
I read that this fight would never get past a boxing regulator.
Seasoned pro 49-0 vs Amatuer 0-0... never going to get license for that fight.
Mayweather would beat him up bad! I think Roach is for the Diaz fight, McGregor probably realises the only way he can win a fight with Diaz is to get it off the ground and then hopefully out box him.
Seasoned pro 49-0 vs Amatuer 0-0... never going to get license for that fight.
Mayweather would beat him up bad! I think Roach is for the Diaz fight, McGregor probably realises the only way he can win a fight with Diaz is to get it off the ground and then hopefully out box him.
It would be unfair for it to be a boxing match as it would be a total mis-match and similarly an MMA fight would be equally unfair
perhaps they should put them in a room and see which one can talk the other into submission as they are both pretty good at that.
On a serious note any chance Floyd goes for one of these places in the Olympics being opened up to pro fighters? - It wouldnt change his unbeaten pro record even if he lost and he would have the opportunity to get a gold (he only got bronze in 1996)
perhaps they should put them in a room and see which one can talk the other into submission as they are both pretty good at that.
On a serious note any chance Floyd goes for one of these places in the Olympics being opened up to pro fighters? - It wouldnt change his unbeaten pro record even if he lost and he would have the opportunity to get a gold (he only got bronze in 1996)
While this fight is obviously stupid and Mayweather would make light work of him. The idea that McGregor would struggle against amateur boxers is also exaggerated. Unless you mean strictly the young talents coming up who are going to make top level professionals when they make the switch. Joe Duffy left MMA for a little while to improve his boxing and have some professional fights having never even boxed as an amateur...he went 7-0 as a professional and then moved back to mma. Anyone will tell you Duffy is a good boxer but his boxing isn't near McGregor's level. Mcgregor could easily rack up some professional boxing wins in his sleep, however only low level guys of course. The likes of Mayweather is a whole different stratosphere and he would clearly get dominated.