Mourinho did think he could win it, but start being defensive after he failed. Sanchez was odd though.
Conte - Inter's new manager; Signed 3 year contract
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So that was just Mourinho's chronic lying. The club did in fact, back and deliver him a squad which he believed could deliver a title. But that just exposed his own lack of ability to get the most out of them to deliver a legitimate title challenge.
Yeah Mourinho had sadly declined before he took over us. I think the biggest problem was Man City being so good. I think they got 11 points ahead of us when they did beat us at Old Trafford. At that point it was pretty much over and Mourinho started to moan more and did fall out with Pogba a bit after that.
Our squad was not good enough to beat City for that year . Although under most years it would have been good enough and could have won it. I guess not the last two years either though.
For his second year he didn't get the funds needed though, but at that point negativity was already spreading in the team.
This is what I find funny, how people can get manipulated so easily with his bullshit.
If we had in fact bought him Maguire - were we going to challenge Man City and Liverpool in the league and Champions League? He at that moment would've spent over £150m on CBs (most in the league since he took over), would've had by far the most expensive midfield (including the £190m he spent on them) in the league, and he would've had spent £70m on a striker and made Sanchez the highest paid player in the league.
It would've just exposed how washed up he was, when you see what Klopp and Guardiola were doing. Our problem in 17/18 wasn't that we couldn't defend but it was that Mourinho couldn't get much out of his expensive attack. An attack he made worse with the addition of Sanchez.
The lack of CB signing was just an excuse. If he we had spunked £60m on Maguire we still would've fallen way short of Man City and Liverpool, and then he would've pulled another excuse out of his arse.
He's quite the turnaround specialist. Took Juve, Italy, Chelsea, and now Inter back to relevance.
We started that season well though under Mourinho and scored lots of goals (yes he played for 0-0 against Pool though). It was after that City defeat things really changed. We started playing much more passive and reactive even against weaker teams. Sanchez just made things worse since Martial/Rashford had been pretty good in some games before the City defeat. Lingard had been in form, but lost it too when we got Sanchez. Not sure how correlated that is though.
The CB thing was very strange. It did feel as if Mourinho had lost it. We actually needed fullbacks more and he let Blind go silly enough who could play both those roles. Fred did feel like something we needed though because Matic looked a bit old.
We needed to replace Sanchez too obviously, but he would not dare to try that. Not buying a right winger was a bit silly too.
That is why he would have suited our squad well. He can actually do a lot with average players.
Italy played bloody good football under him without having great attacking players unlike his other sides.
I guess they just needed to practice pens more though.
It was Mourinho deflecting. He couldn't blame the attack because the club had splashed out record fees and wages on it, so he had to go for something else.
So it was easier getting people to forget he had just been bought Lindelof and Bailly in two consecutive transfer windows for a feckload of money. So he spent his half of the season sabotaging the defence with his weird lineups, which didn't even give them a chance to compete.
Would've been the best to take charge.of our squad. I said that before but you get some quoting you about Jose 2.0 and people waxing lyrical about Ole's system.
He would have us top 4 easily but perhaps we'll be playing champagne football after this brutal slip so far.
in terms of Jose Allegri Conte, Conte is a much better fit.
He would have us top 4 easily but perhaps we'll be playing champagne football after this brutal slip so far.
in terms of Jose Allegri Conte, Conte is a much better fit.
The problem with Conte is that his own transfer record is a bit shit. He's a fantastic head coach, and he makes great use of the players he's been dealt.
But it started going wrong for him at Chelsea when he got a bit more power - he started alienating the squad (the likes of Luiz and Diego Costa) because he thought he could replace them with better. And his own signings weren't very good. Bakayoko, Zapacosta, Morata, Drinkwater were all signed in his second season and they were all awful. Alonso, Rudiger and Luiz (up until they fell out) were the success stories. Once again at Inter now, like most European clubs he's been relegated back to a head coach.
Over here, he'd have the same problem as he would be in charge of transfers.
Yeah but he's been adamant on getting Rom in and they've spent double their previous transfer record doing so. Was quite surprising Inter did that. He also should've got Rom in at Chelsea.
At the time it's said Poch was on the top of our list so I don't think we were close but I do feel there was a large window to get him before he settled on joining Inter while he had his year off.
Important to note none of the failures at chelsea were top targets, for the most part they were just who they could get after failing to get their guys(with the poasible exception of Baka). In fact, even David Luiz and Alonso weren't top targets iirc. Conte also threw a strop when Matic was sold, so he might have had more power and input but he definitely wasn't calling the shots at chelsea
At Inter they seem to have a good dynamic right now, similar to his early dynamic at juventus, where they trust his input but for the most part the job of identifying the targets doesn't fall to him. Lukaku obviously was his big request, but also his only specific request. So far so good
Already had a mini meltdown on transfers after the Dortmund game.
Not every manager can bring other clubs "rejects" into their club, get them to perform while also improving the team overall. He's been doing a very good job in my opinion. Also He seems to have the same player preference as Jose.
This guy is a miracle worker. Win percentage of 66 with Chelsea over 100 games, 67 with Juventus over 100 games. And now he is toppling the all powerful Juventus with whatever players he has been provided. And some proper shit players too.
Yes its almost as if an actual good manager doesn’t need to rebuild an entire squad and 3 years to implement his football style and get results.
I don't know about "shit" players but taking a team that's underachieved for ages and running a team that's won what is it 7 on the bounce (?) close in the league, is a mighty feat. But it isn't the biggest surprise. This is the guy who really took Juve to the top, and then beat Pep, Mourinho and Klopp to the title in England with 93 points.
Excellent manager.
So Klopp isn't a good manager?
Right Amol. But by shit players I think you know which three I am referring to.
But honestly, what a motivator this guy must be. Still just 50 years of age right?
He got results from first season and proved he is worthy candidate to back and invest in the squad.
Unbelievably good manager. He is getting results with poor wing backs, Vecino in the team and the upgrade they got is Young and Moses.Right Amol. But by shit players I think you know which three I am referring to.
But honestly, what a motivator this guy must be. Still just 50 years of age right?
Awesome manager.
Highlights of the recent Milan derby.
Great play from both teams.
Some good play from United rejects.
Great play from both teams.
Some good play from United rejects.
Yes. 100 percent agree with this. And he further goes to prove the reality that first the manager has to implement a system and a mentality. Doesn't matter who the players are at his disposal.
Ole in army wants to know your location.
Conte's doing a great job. Some say he can be difficult to work with, but he delivers results wherever he goes.
I've always had a soft spot for Inter. I hope they manage to rip the Scudetto from Juventus' hands this season.
I've always had a soft spot for Inter. I hope they manage to rip the Scudetto from Juventus' hands this season.
He is an excellent manager. I don't think he's making miracles happen as he has easily the second best team in the league and will probably finish second. Some of his players would walk into most teams. Lazio are the ones over achieving.
As a manager I highly rate him, and thought he did great at Chelsea which at the time surprised me. I know some inter fans who criticize his in game management and substitutions. He got them really wrong in the away game to Dortmund and league game vs Juve. Overall I think he has put this team on track.
As a manager I highly rate him, and thought he did great at Chelsea which at the time surprised me. I know some inter fans who criticize his in game management and substitutions. He got them really wrong in the away game to Dortmund and league game vs Juve. Overall I think he has put this team on track.
He got extreme passion for sure. Probably both in a good and bad way.
Certainly inspires his players to work harder.
Struggled in CL though. Maybe due to the pressure. Maybe not the most tactically flexible.
Or it might be the quality of his teams not being at the absolute top.
He hasn't had that many chances.
What he did at Chelsea in his first season in the supposedly most difficult league in the world was nothing short of a miracle.
- Conte's 30 league wins in the 2016-17 campaign was a record until Manchester City produced 32 in 2017-18.
- He set a club record 13 consecutive league victories.
- His league win percentage of 67.1% is better than Sir Alex Ferguson's 65.2% and only bettered by Pep Guardiola's 72.8% in the Premier League.
- He averaged 2.14 points per game in the league. Only Ferguson (2.16) and Guardiola (2.34) have averaged more in the competition's history
And what is doing now at Inter with all sorts of free agents, United "deadwoods" and again, in his first season with them, is nothing but miraculous.
I completely agree about his time at Chelsea. Don’t think there’s anything to agree with anyways as the numbers are staggering.
re inter, I think it’s harsh to call a team with his back line and midfield a bunch of rejects. Their front line is stellar too.
You will say they are playing Ashley young and Moses, but they also do have 3 world class center backs. Eriksen is not a reject nor a free agent, brozovic is world class and in sensi, barella and politano they have some excellent options in midfield.
You think if this team finishes second it would have over achieved?
I think he is building something special, take nothing away from him, but I think simone inzaghi and lazio are the ones who surprised me so far.
True. Politano has been loaned to Napoli recently right? Notwithstanding, as you said, there is a good mix of talent there. But having 15 odd new players thrown at you and then providing such results in a jiffy is amazing. Out of the their incomings I rate Politano, Barella, Eriksen and Sensi. Eriksen hasn't yet contributed to where they are this season so his impact remains to be seen.
Bet if we signed 15 players in two windows people would come up with excuses such as "too many new players" "will take 3 years to gel" etc.
He’s doing brilliantly there. I wouldn’t be very confident if we meet Inter in the Europa even with our best players back. He’s a great tactician and you need that in a 2 legged tie
Great manager.
Being honest I didn't give Conte the respect he deserved when he was at Chelsea. It was very easy to write off what he did at Juve because nobody in Italy was close to Juve at that time. However, he's shown at Chelsea and Inter that he's a great tactician. Yes he's being backed in a way that he probably never would be at United, just look at how many players they've signed since he went there, but it is a shame he isn't still on the market. For all the excitement some on here have shown about Pochettino he's nowhere near the coach that Conte is.
His net spend is just north of 100 million euros. So I don't know about the backing part.
The number of players brought in is high and also debatable whether they are all Conte's wishes or players chosen by Ausilio or Marotta.
Integrating that many new players and getting results at the same is a huge challenge in itself..
Conte was on the market when we decided to dig out grave with the caretaker being made permanent.
Milan and Inter won it before Conte though. He took them back to the top and Alligri did keep them there.
His last season with Juventus was poor in the CL. Galatasaray knocked them out. I remember they moved the game against them to another day due to snow too and maybe even stopped it during the game.
Global warming might ruin all those crazy moments.
He's the perfect manager to take over after Jose and He will improve what Jose had even further. And Jose hates him. It's actually funny. Jose was Chelsea's hero... not so fast! Conte walked in and better him. Jose was the only manager who could afford to call Inter his home... not so fast! Conte walked in and does a brilliant job with players that are Lukaku, Sanchez, Ashley Young, bringing Inter Scudetto dream an achievable target. Conte is just winding him up at this point. 
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I said at the time we could have done worse than go for Conte when we sacked Mourinho though I'm convinced he'd have done just as badly here as anyone else has
What make you say that. Given that he is winning with 3 of our players from last season.
Also won the league with Mourinho Chelsea and Matic.
If the board would not back him you could be right though. He might have 1-2 good seasons then fight with the board and get the sack.
I’d like him here if we miss out on Poch/stick with Ole for the next couple of years. Shame the timing doesn’t quite line up as I think he’s a good coach. It would’ve also been easier for him to come here than sign all our players one by one.