Coronavirus Draft - R1 - Sjor/Invictus vs Michaelf

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.............................................SJOR/INVICTUS...............................................................................................MICHAEL...................................................



TEAM SJOR/INVICTUS

Formation: Up-tempo 4-3-3 with asymmetric flanks.

DEFENSE

Ciro Ferrara, Velibor Vasović
(Ajax's captain for the first European Cup in club history), Guido Buchwald and Ruud Krol form an accomplished and robust platform for the team, with three or the quartet winning the European Cup and the fourth the World Cup. The instructions are fairly straight-forward — Krol is well positioned to provide a supplementary attacking threat on the left flank while being secure in the defensive phase and Vasović will organize the defense — in our opinion, their chemistry while at Ajax will be an added bonus:
What stood out most about Vasović - and it is a trait possessed by the game's greatest sweepers - is a confidence that not only bordered on arrogance it actively invaded and settled there. In his more subdued moments he claimed to be the central architect behind the totaalvoetbal philosophy, but it is undeniable that his pace and intelligence allowed Michels to implement the ruthlessly efficient offside trap that became a hallmark of Ajax's defensive strategy.
To their right is Ferrara (a tough centerback who emerged as the leader of the vaunted Juventus defense under Lippi), and Buchwald (who is being asked to maintain a more defensively predicated role than Krol and keep Blokhin at bay as an old-school destroyer).
Diego Maradona fell victim to the bad mood. The Argentine was the greatest football player of his time, despite being only seventy with studs, but as the game progressed, his tormentor reports, "he has gotten smaller and smaller". And at some point, after another lost duel, the disenchanted magician crouched on the ground, shook his head - and never, Buchwald says, will he forget this sight when the small, tall Gaucho gathered up all of his English and groaned in resignation: "You again? You again?"
In goal, Sepp Maier was the core of Germany’s World Cup and European Championship winning defense and Bayern’s trio of European Cups — and was voted 4th in the World Keeper of the Century poll.



MIDFIELD

Paul Scholes, De Bruyne
and Valery Voronin offer an exquisite blend of technique and playmaking ability in the central portion of the pitch. Scholes reprises his fabled clockwork regista role — allowing him to regulate the proceeding in inimitable fashion and form an exhilarating axis for the forwards.
He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation. If he was playing with me, I would score so many more. Scholes is a great man — Pelé
To his right is De Bruyne — who will seek to serve as a supply line for the attackers. A quick and elegant player on the ball, his positional sense, tactical intelligence, movement, workrate and direct style of play enables him to take advantage of spaces in the opposition's defense, and subsequently create chances and goalscoring opportunities for himself or his teammates. What he lacks in all All-Time stature according to some, he makes up for in terms of fit — in this setup, he should be able to explore the full extent of his simple yet remarkable playmaking skill set through the half-spaces as someone who is adept as co-existing with other playmakers without hogging the ball, and he should positively thrive in the presence of Seeler and Pelé further up the pitch as they will gobble up a fair percentage of the chances he invariably creates.
Kevin De Bruyne made Premier League history on Tuesday as he became the first player to provide 15 or more assists in three separate seasons.
And supporting the base is Voronin, performing the holding role he perfected in his peak — capable of being a factor in possession as well as negating the influence of the likes of Eusébio, allowing Scholes and De Bruyne the freedom to exert maximum creative influence on the match.



ATTACK

Up top is Uwe Seeler. The greatest striker Germany has ever produced behind Gerd Müller, he possessed the unique ability to form a telepathic understanding with his co-attackers and involve himself in the deeper or wider game to a point where he was almost a dual striker-winger/forward — all while establishing himself as one of the best examples you'll ever see of aerial prowess at the position, working hard on and off the ball and being an extraordinary natural goalscorer — to date, Seeler boasts the second highest goal tally of a German footballer with 575 scored in competitive matches. In our opinion, the ideal pivot for the attackers wide of him.



On the right is the man, the myth, the legend — Garríncha. One of the finest dribblers in the history of the sport, Mané played a pivotal role in Brazil's triumphs in the 1958 and 1962 World Cups (with the latter ranking as one of the best and most dominant by any individual). A flying right-winger who frequently roasted his marker(s) with a combination of quickness and change of directions, he also a superb crosser of the ball and capable of scoring spectacular goals from long range.
"He is considered a retard," wrote Nelson Rodrigues, "but Garrincha proved in the World Cup that we are the retarded ones - because we think, we rationalise. Next to him, next to the prodigious instantaneity of his reflexes, we are luggards, bovines, hippopotamuses." The poet Paulo Mendes Campos compared him to an artistic genius: "Like a poet touched by an angel, like a composer following a melody that fell from the sky, like a dancer hooked to a rhythm, Garrincha plays football by pure inspiration and magic; unsuffering, unreserved and unplanned."
And on the left, as an inside, forward is Pelé...
The greatest player in history was Di Stéfano. I refuse to classify Pelé as a player. He was above that — Ferenc Puskás

Key Talking Points?

1. @Michaelf7777777 has assembled a fine midfield and attack, but there might be an overabundance of ball-dominant central playmakers in Platini, Redondo and Didi (who were all usually the architects of their teams). Whether that proves to be an insurmountable concern cannot be practically discerned, but the entire combination is not exactly ideal, in our opinion at least.

2. Pelé and Garríncha are well positioned to exploit the gaps in Michaelf's defense, and we intend on setting a manic tempo to start the game and put the opposition defense under huge amounts of pressure with the combination of those two and Seeler in the middle.
The third match was against the USSR. It was the era of the Sputnik satellite. Cold-war propaganda fuelled a fear of the Soviets' scientific approach. Vicente Feola, the coach, shook up the team sheet and dispatched his secret weapons. From the kick-off, Garrincha fired himself like a missile into the Soviet defence. After 40 seconds of dribble after mesmerising dribble, he shot at the post. Before 60 seconds, Pelé also hit the woodwork, from a Garrincha pass. The onslaught of the opening three minutes, ending with a goal by Vavá, showed an audaciousness and skill not seen before in international football. They are considered by many as Brazilian football's greatest three minutes of all time.
3. Someone of Platini's caliber will always be a threat, but in our opinion the rhombus of Maier, Vasović, Ferrara as well as Voronin should do a very good job of limiting his influence as a deep-lying forward.

4. Seeler + Pelé is the most irrepressible and potent goal-scoring combination on the pitch, with over 1400 goals between them.




TEAM MICHAEL

My team will play a magic square formation based on those used by Brazil and France in the 1980's in which Platini absolutely excelled scoring 9 goals in 5 games at Euro 84 for example. My team will also look to use the attacking skills of Dani Alves to take full advantage of the oppositions lack of a quality specialist left winger in their squad
 

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After teaming up with Invictus in the past, I can see some hints of his work in that writeup. I've used the Pele + Seeler combination before and I think it's deadly and very complimentary.

Really like Michael's two line writeup as well. tl;dr version: Dani Alves gonna feck you up.
 

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After teaming up with Invictus in the past, I can see some hints of his work in that writeup. I've used the Pele + Seeler combination before and I think it's deadly and very complimentary.

Really like Michael's two line writeup as well. tl;dr version: Dani Alves gonna feck you up.
OP is all his work:drool:
We are like a reverse evolution, starting with him and finishing with me fecking this up in the match thread.
 

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Good luck @Michaelf7777777

As much as i love your attack i think its double of how much i hate your midfield. All great players individually and pretty much love everyone but dont think i ever saw a more unbalanced midfield tbh. We were sure you are going to start with Sammer in midfield and even then we thought you have way to much players that just HAVE to be the main passers/playmakers.
Didi clashes with everyone bar Goncalves.
Redondo clashes with everyone bar Platini.
Goncalves with Redondo.
All players played in the teams where everyone went through them, they were the main guy and how do you see them all playing together is beyond me tbh.

Don't even need to consider Di Stefano/Laudrup, look at this:
Pelé Vavá
Zagallo Zito Didi Garrincha

Main passer: Didi, no one dictated the game or had the ball as much as him.


Lacombe Genghini
Platini
Giresse Fernández Tigana

Rossi
Boniek Platini Bettega
Tardelli Bonini

Main passer: Platini, with Giresse in supporting offensive playmaker role for France and plenty of hard-workers in both teams.


Raúl Morientes
Sávio Redondo McManaman

Raúl Morientes
Seedorf Redondo Karambeu

Main passer: Redondo, nobody comes even close.
 

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@Šjor Bepo Michael's midfield looks a bit strange to me, but his fullbacks and wing forwards can cause a lot of problems IMO.

Both of your midfields are sort of set up to be better with the ball than without it.
 

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and to the lesser issue(when Pele and Garrincha are the lesser of two evils...)
Whats the plan to stopping them? Apart from hardoworking attack there is nothing i see, all those players need at least one proper defensive mastermind in midfield and from that perspective you have none.
We had a plan where you would need to double up on Garrincha so we would use him as decoy(like City uses Bernardo Silva) to draw opposition defenders by dribbling and holding up the ball while creating a half space for KDB special which is a delivery from half distance and when your targets are equally good as delivery and both Seeler and Pele are GOAT aerial threats then its a as clear route to goal as any but looking at your team dynamics there is actually no need for that as Garrincha should have plently of chances to isolate Junior and then he is toast.
 

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@Šjor Bepo Michael's midfield looks a bit strange to me, but his fullbacks and wing forwards can cause a lot of problems IMO.

Both of your midfields are sort of set up to be better with the ball than without it.
as i said, i love the attack he built but the midfield is a too big of an issue and im confident our equally good attack or even better would score more as we are going to place them in better situations to shine.
Alves is a threat but Pele/Seeler are hardworking forwards + with such a dissbalance in midfield i think Alves will be much worried with the threat of Krol - Pele then those two with him and Kalle.

As for our midfield:
Voronin - defensive specialist, brilliant holding midfielder proven at highest stage against GOAT oppositions
Scholes - 90% of his career played in a midfield two at highest stage while here he is in a midfield three
KDB - one of the reasons why i rate him as highly as i do is that you would be pushed hard to find a more hardworking and selfless attacking midfielder

So yeah, id be pretty comfortable even if we had to defend majority of time and play on the counter.
 

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Looks like a game where the defenses are totally outgunned by the offenses. Would love to see that in real life :D

I prefer Sjorvictus' central defense, but my hunch is that Michael's front six support & compactness will be a bit better.

Scholes would have a lot of balancing work to do on Sjorvictus' left wing, imo. Since I don't expect Krol to be suicidal (he had a good eye for balance), that may mean he needs to be more restrained than desirable to support him. As good as that flank is offensively, slight advantage Michael there, imo.

What do people think about Buchwald vs Blokhin in 1 on 1 situations?

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Looks like a game where the defenses are totally outgunned by the offenses. Would love to see that in real life :D

What do people think about Buchwald vs Blokhin in 1 on 1 situations?
tbh dont expect leaking much goals in

Buchwald is playing as a defensive right back, while pretty good on the ball and going forward, we want him to play like he did in WC winning team in 1990 where he man marked Diego Maradona out of the game and while both invi and myself are not sure we think he did the same with Gullit on the same tournament. Anyways, to man mark someone you have to have discipline, concentration and be a great 1v1 defender so in theory he should do as good as any against the quality of Blokhin. How big that threat is gonna be we are unsure because of the reasons i mentioned in previous posts.
As for his nickname Diego, funnily enough it isnt because he destroyed Maradona it was actually because of this:
 

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I meant 1 on 1 defending, not his Diego-esque skills :lol:

I'm sceptical, because Blokhin is one of the fastest & most agile players I've seen. And because you aim to play on the front foot, so counterattacks are inevitable. I would have expected Buchwald to be better suited to central areas.
 

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As for his nickname Diego, funnily enough it isnt because he destroyed Maradona it was actually because of this:
Tbf, Diego already destroyed himself by that time.

One ball won't be enough for that Michael midfield though and it is hard to envision how would they function in the real game. Went with Sjor/Invictus.
 

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I meant 1 on 1 defending, not his Diego-esque skills :lol:

I'm sceptical, because Blokhin is one of the fastest & most agile players I've seen. And because you aim to play on the front foot, so counterattacks are inevitable. I would have expected Buchwald to be better suited to central areas.
ffs read the text, video was just a funny footnote :D
Since your eyes run straight to videos here you go:

Obviously Blokhin is a different type of player but it shows he is capable of going toe to toe against the best and his ability to defend as well as dancing like Denilson.
Regarding the counters, he will stay back all the time, we dont need him up front so you have 5 or at worst 4 players staying back all the time.

As for the game, i cant honestly say how would that play out(as i have no clue how would that mess michael has play out) but its not necessarily we would be on the front foot. Having a more balanced approach or even a counter-attacking one might have even a bigger impact. Anyways, team is built to shine in both possession system and counter-attacking one so a balanced start and sniffing where the danger is might the best option. Would be of the Fergie playbook, like Neville was recently saying that he didnt know what spanish press meant when they asked him what his idea of football is. Under Fergie their football idea was to win, tactics were flexible while today everyone has some sort of philosophy which is also great but not essential.
 

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It's a ballsy move to go with Pelé on the left, but I like it — and the system of counterweights that they've set up all over the pitch. The Buchwald-De Bruyne-Garrincha axis is perfect tactically — like Rakitić does for Messi, where he often peels out wide to compensate for the complete lack of defensive work on Messi's part, De Bruyne will do that. And he's smart enough to switch between central and wide positions, and talented enough to produce tons of creativity from either position.

Krol is more attacking here, but Voronin has played at the highest level as a defensive midfielder, as a center back and in some weird hybrid role when he was a player who added 4th player in 3-men defence, but not by simply dropping back to CB, but by covering every possible defensive position depending on the situation. So he should be a brilliant cover for Krol's runs here (and Vasović should be pretty used to them anyway).
 

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One ball won't be enough for that Michael midfield though and it is hard to envision how would they function in the real game. Went with Sjor/Invictus.
Says the guy who played Kaiser/Platini/Iniesta in one midfield :lol:

Went with Sjor as well. I like Mike's team a lot as well, but that defense is what lets it down for me. And his midfield does run into a midfield that can be equally devastating on the ball.
 

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First thing to say on the Blokhin vs. Buchwald matchup is that I can't find evidence that he ever played as a fullback. The other advantage I'd have on that side is that Garrincha will contribute very little if anything defensively which means that at times Buchwald will have to deal with both Junior and Blokhin.

In addition on the other flank, I will also often have the numbers advantage (if Pele isn't mainly in the center then he is out of position and that will overall be an advantage to me). Additionally if he is playing in a CR7 type left inside forward role as the openning post seems to indicate, then CR7 only scored 8 goals in 16 games against Barcelona in which Dani Alves played in.

With regards to the midfield, Didi played with Pele who was a 9.5 similar to Platini in how I am playing him (although teenage Pele was probably more of a 9.4 while Platini would be more of a 9.6). Platini scored 9 goals in 5 games in the role I am playing him in while playing with Giresse and Tigana. Redondo was a traditional Argentine #5 in a formation which also included someone linking the midfield and attackers (such as late career Maradona at the 1994 World Cup)
 

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Tbf, Diego already destroyed himself by that time.

One ball won't be enough for that Michael midfield though and it is hard to envision how would they function in the real game. Went with Sjor/Invictus.
was still good enough to reach a World Cup Final.
vs Baresi, Bergomi and Maldini

his "destroyed" game was better then 90% players in history of the game "top" game. Not an isolated game either, plenty of evidence and footage from other games as well but this was the biggest one bar Germany.
 

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Says the guy who played Kaiser/Platini/Iniesta in one midfield
Iniesta is a way different player than anyone in that midfield. In fact, put Iniesta instead of Didi and it already looks better. Put Rijkaard instead of Redondo and well, it is... :wenger:

Every single one of them here would like to dictate the game the way I see it.
 

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Iniesta is a way different player than anyone in that midfield. In fact, put Iniesta instead of Didi and it already looks better. Put Rijkaard instead of Redondo and well, it is... :wenger:

Every single one of them here would like to dictate the game the way I see it.
I don't think its miles apart. The magic square (be it the Brazilian/French one) was magical because of the magicians in midfield. You can't then call it way too magical suddenly :lol:

They obviously had their flaws off the ball, but their on the ball genius made up for it/covered it up (not always obviously, both never did win WC's).

I think Nestor and Fernando offer enough off the ball to call it balanced. I'd even argue Didi offers as much work rate as Iniesta. Both have played with a dominant No.10 (Pele/Messi), so both would do well with Platini too IMO.

I'd even say they are all adaptable to let someone else dictate the game as long as all of them do get to express themselves on the ball (which the magic square guarantees)

I'd call this midfield more close to the Brazilian one than the French one though. Yours was closer to the French one due to Rijkaard's presence.

But both are absolutely fine.
 

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My eyes went straight to video and saw Buchwald mostly defending central areas against a player less rapid than Blokhin, and with a different role. Focusing on defense will help him, and Ferrara/De Bruyne are good support, but I'm not fully convinced.

But I found @harms' sketch of how Krol might be covered convincing, so that's fine.
 
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I don't think its miles apart. The magic square (be it the Brazilian/French one) was magical because of the magicians in midfield. You can't then call it way too magical suddenly :lol:

They obviously had their flaws off the ball, but their on the ball genius made up for it/covered it up (not always obviously, both never did win WC's).

I think Nestor and Fernando offer enough off the ball to call it balanced. I'd even argue Didi offers as much work rate as Iniesta. Both have played with a dominant No.10 (Pele/Messi), so both would do well with Platini too IMO.

I'd even say they are all adaptable to let someone else dictate the game as long as all of them do get to express themselves on the ball (which the magic square guarantees)

I'd call this midfield more close to the Brazilian one than the French one though. Yours was closer to the French one due to Rijkaard's presence.

But both are absolutely fine.
Didi didnt play with n10 version of Pele and he was more like Xavi then he was Iniesta.
 

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My eyes went straight to video and saw Buchwald mostly defending central areas against a player less rapid than Blokhin, and with a different role. Focusing on defense will help him, and Ferrara/De Bruyne are good support, but I'm not fully convinced.

But I found @harms' sketch of how Krol might be covered convincing, so that's fine.
as i said, video and reference isnt ideal but it shows his ability to defend 1v1 against a elite dribbler and player. Blokhin is amazing and in my opinion one of the greats for the left wing/forward spot so reckon unless i had a GOAT defensive RB you would never be convinced, at least i wouldnt.
Problem for michael is that he has the same problems on the other side with even bigger quality gap and with little to no help from either players as individuals or defensive structure of a team.
 

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Didi didnt play with n10 version of Pele and he was more like Xavi then he was Iniesta.
Yea, you can't expect to have like for like matches 50 you ears apart. It's still a valid analogy imo.

I also wouldn't call Didi more like Xavi. He had traits of both Xavi and Iniesta for me.
 

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Yea, you can't expect to have like for like matches 50 you ears apart. It's still a valid analogy imo.

I also wouldn't call Didi more like Xavi. He had traits of both Xavi and Iniesta for me.
From what i saw Didi was controlling games, almost every attack either went through him or was started by him so from there i see the Xavi comparison rather then Iniesta who i see as probably the greatest selfless great, at least from the midfielder pool.

Its not if they were totally different players, young Pele and Platini. One was a forward while the other was a goslscoring midfielder that was also running the game. If we were comparing 1970 Pele then id agree with you.
 

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as i said, video and reference isnt ideal but it shows his ability to defend 1v1 against a elite dribbler and player. Blokhin is amazing and in my opinion one of the greats for the left wing/forward spot so reckon unless i had a GOAT defensive RB you would never be convinced, at least i wouldnt.
I actually think Ferrara might be a good option as a defensive RB. I watched some stuff of him playing RB for Juve some time ago, because Physio and me thought about drafting him as a way to shut down the right wing. He'd offer more mobility against Blokhin, which is my biggest concern for Buchwald, and he's a great 1 on 1 defender as well. He's even good on the ball, and would be useful in possession.

(Not that I've studied him intensely or something, but that was my impression.)
 

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I actually think Ferrara might be a good option as a defensive RB. I watched some stuff of him playing RB for Juve some time ago, because Physio and me thought about drafting him as a way to shut down the right wing. He'd offer more mobility against Blokhin, which is my biggest concern for Buchwald, and he's a great 1 on 1 defender as well. He's even good on the ball, and would be useful in possession.

(Not that I've studied him intensely or something, but that was my impression.)
Agree with this. Ferrara also filled in as RB in some games from memory and he's IMO better suited to the task (Blokhin).
 

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From what i saw Didi was controlling games, almost every attack either went through him or was started by him so from there i see the Xavi comparison rather then Iniesta who i see as probably the greatest selfless great, at least from the midfielder pool.
Didi had way more forward forays than Xavi. More near to Iniesta with that regards. But he did control games like Xavi too. Which is why I said he had traits of both.

Its not if they were totally different players, young Pele and Platini. One was a forward while the other was a goslscoring midfielder that was also running the game. If we were comparing 1970 Pele then id agree with you.
For me 1958 Pele offered a lot deeper too. I wouldn't call him just a forward. Obviously not as complete as 1970 Pele, but still pretty good deeper. Again, not a like for like match with Platini but I can see similarity in the game dynamics and chemistry
 

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I actually think Ferrara might be a good option as a defensive RB. I watched some stuff of him playing RB for Juve some time ago, because Physio and me thought about drafting him as a way to shut down the right wing. He'd offer more mobility against Blokhin, which is my biggest concern for Buchwald, and he's a great 1 on 1 defender as well. He's even good on the ball, and would be useful in possession.

(Not that I've studied him intensely or something, but that was my impression.)
we were considering that even before we picked Buchwald but came to conclusion Ferrara is too valuable in the middle.
 

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we were considering that even before we picked Buchwald but came to conclusion Ferrara is too valuable in the middle.
Yeah, that's understandable. He's the best CB on the pitch, imo.
 

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Platini scored 9 goals in 5 games in the role I am playing him in while playing with Giresse and Tigana. Redondo was a traditional Argentine #5 in a formation which also included someone linking the midfield and attackers (such as late career Maradona at the 1994 World Cup)
You're missing the crucial component though. Tigana ran for two , and here you don't have any runners in your midfield of 4 — 2 offensive playmakers and 2 deep-lying playmakers (Gonçalves as a more defensive, Redondo as a more creative one). It's very static and you are in a dire need of someone like Tigana or Davids.
 

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I don't think its miles apart. The magic square (be it the Brazilian/French one) was magical because of the magicians in midfield. You can't then call it way too magical suddenly :lol:
Oh, you certainly can.

For me, this midfield is a bit like Christopher Nolan movie. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing at all. In fact, many people love Nolan's movies. Personally, I think someone should explain to him the meaning of the phrase "less is more".

Don't want to go fully against Mike here as I obviously adore that attack and addition of Alves bombing up and down. And also like Carvalho pick (definitely underrated as a CB).
 

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Nah, Sjorictus have one better in their ranks.
I thought people might see it this way, but I think very highly of Ferrara. Really love that guy. But it's of course possible I underrate Vasovic.

In any case a good thing for Invictus & Sjor to have both.
 

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I thought people might see it this way, but I think very highly of Ferrara. Really love that guy. But it's of course possible I underrate Vasovic.

In any case a good thing for Invictus & Sjor to have both.
I meant Krol tbh. :)

Vasovic and Ferrara is tight, but in pure defensive sense I'd might give it to Ciro. They would compliment each other very well too.
 

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I meant Krol tbh. :)

Vasovic and Ferrara is tight, but in pure defensive sense I'd might give it to Ciro. They would compliment each other very well too.
Ah okay, got me there. I meant the CBs in this game.

What I find most impressive about Ferrara is that he's both a fearsome, bloody-minded marker and really good on the ball. Very complete player.
 

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Wait, @Michaelf7777777 , didn't you pick Sammer? :confused:

After you picked your front 3 and Sammer, I thought it was leading to something special.

This is what I was thinking after your first 7 picks

M. PlatiniO. BlokhinRummeniggeM. SammerD. AlvesN. GonçalvesF. Redondo


--------Blokhin----------Kalle-------
------------------Platini----------------
-----Goncalves--Redondo-------
LWB------------------------------Alves
------LCB---Sammer--RCB--------
 
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Wait, @Michaelf7777777 , didn't you pick Sammer? :confused:

After you picked youR front 3 and Sammer, I thought it was leading to something special.

This is what I was thinking after your first 7 picks

M. PlatiniO. BlokhinRummeniggeM. SammerD. AlvesN. GonçalvesF. Redondo


--------Blokhin----------Kalle-------
------------------Platini----------------
-----Goncalves--Redondo-------
LWB------------------------------Alves
------LCB---Sammer--RCB--------
That might actually have won him the game. I think Didi was meant to be a Giresse replacement in his system, with Goncalves playing the Tigana role.