Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

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They’re saying that they (The Government) were keen for free to air games to help social distancing but 2/3 of the games are on paid TV. How many people are going to restart their Sky / BT subscriptions for BCD games, and how many will pile round their one mate's house that still has them? I suspect the latter for many.
 

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It didn't really matter when the UK went into lockdown as it appears now that Covid was here in December last year.

How much longer do you propose we stay 'locked down'? The economy cannot be ignored forever.
So working to ensure the virus is as under control as possible is good for the economy in the long run. The short run is being prioritised over the long run but you're the expert.

And I honestly don't care how long Britain stays locked down. Neither does Boris.
 

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I don't think they would. Everyone knows Liveprool will win the league. Everybody would know ManUtd will win the league if things were the other way around. Still it wouldn't be ok to finish this season. Not only for health reason. But also for everything else around the game. We are bending the rules and making up new ones as times goes and Everything else just to keep the game going. Not all games, only those who bring big money. Look how little people care about leagues under PL or that there isn't protests what happened in Womans Premier League? I also wonder why we aren't bending rules when it comes to people in socity. We are gladly accepting for example homeless people sleeping in the streets but can't accept a finish to a football season for various
I think a lot of fans will simply approve if their team meet or exceed expectations when the season finishes, and moan and make excuses if they don’t. It was ever thus. I am fine with the season finishing by the way! My issue was with people trying to discredit Liverpool with their astounding points total!

Do we think the season will actually be finished without further disruption to his new schedule?
 

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I think a lot of fans will simply approve if their team meet or exceed expectations when the season finishes, and moan and make excuses if they don’t. It was ever thus. I am fine with the season finishing by the way! My issue was with people trying to discredit Liverpool with their astounding points total!

Do we think the season will actually be finished without further disruption to his new schedule?
Whatever happens Liverpool gets title. Simply. Finishing now or playing all games. That is my opinion.

When the first game starts there can't be stopping again. They must go through it whatever the cost is. They have pushed themself in a corner where there is no way back. If they start and then suddenly change direction this would be damaging for credibility of PL, EFL and TheFA. With lot of problems they have to deal with (and hidden problems that will come) I don't think it is clever to keep going.
 

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Would you really trust British football fans not to turn up in their thousands if a title was there to be won?
The police don't seem to trust Liverpool fans hence so many of their games been suggested for neutral grounds?
 

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Keep in mind that there is generally a Second Wave which is also generally worse than the first one.
Some people believe that we are already on the second wave and that the first wave was in December/January.

Also virus's tend to mutate in to a weaker version the more that they spread.
 

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What evidence is there supporting a wave in the new year?
 

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Some people believe that we are already on the second wave and that the first wave was in December/January.

Also virus's tend to mutate in to a weaker version the more that they spread.
We are not on the second wave and no one knows much about this Covid till now.

It is very different in some aspects to other viruses.
 

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Think PL footballers are some of the safest people in the country right now
 

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You are right. We could say that to lot of businesses. And a healthy, well run company would be just fine during economic crises. Of coures they would get hit but they would survive.

Lets say we get hit by second wave in October. Should we close it again or?

There are issues with integrity like many here have said. If you start changing rules, pushing things here and there, changing venues for some teams and so on there is a major issue with integrity. Now, it is not football fault but saying no real issue with integrity is wrong.
If the virus is on a rapid rise again then yes absolutely, which makes all the more sense to get on with it now.

The integrity thing is a red herring, and will no doubt be used as an excuse later on for the losers in this, but the rules aren't changing. clubs are just been asked to play some games at neutral venues, so what, If clubs were been asked to play with no contact, or finish the season on a penalty shoot out, then I could see the problem, but what's been suggested is a minor detail.
 

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Well they have a governing body happy to invest millions to get testing done on a huge scale and so safeguard the key participants.
Let's be honest it's to safeguard their profits.
 

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Strenuous exercise temporarily weakens your immune system, making footballers somewhat vulnerable to contracting the virus.
Does a weakened immune system (temporary or permanent) mean you are more likely to contract the virus?
 

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Does a weakened immune system (temporary or permanent) mean you are more likely to contract the virus?
It depends on what you believe, I guess.

Some scientists believe the 'exercise lowers the immune system' theory has been debunked, others swear by it. There's no clear evidence either way in my experience.
 

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It depends on what you believe, I guess.

Some scientists believe the 'exercise lowers the immune system' theory has been debunked, others swear by it. There's no clear evidence either way in my experience.
I thought that a lowered immune system only affected your ability to fight the virus once contracted. I didn't think it actually meant you were more likely to contract it.
 

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If the virus is on a rapid rise again then yes absolutely, which makes all the more sense to get on with it now.

The integrity thing is a red herring, and will no doubt be used as an excuse later on for the losers in this, but the rules aren't changing. clubs are just been asked to play some games at neutral venues, so what, If clubs were been asked to play with no contact, or finish the season on a penalty shoot out, then I could see the problem, but what's been suggested is a minor detail.
There should not be excuse from losing sides. If they accept this for the love of money then they have nothing to say if things go wrong. Minor changes or not. There are changes. From how you arrive, how you use changings room to how you play games. If you want something more specific look at numbers of subs allowed. That will have impact on games.

I think you are taking it to easy with netural venues. Is it fair for us to play away at some place against SheU when we already played away against them? Is it ok that City will have advantage taken from them when they are not allowed to play at home in some games? Is it fair that Liverpool don't have to play away games? Why didn't any of relegation sides get any matches at neutral venue? Because they refused to play. I hope the other teams tell Premier League that they will NOT be moving their games. It is all politics.
 

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It's a bit of both. The following article will explain it better than I ever could.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32139352/
Thanks. I see what you mean about there being a lack of consensus. I didn't think the immune system potentially played a large role at point of infection and could essentially close the door if you like but rather it did all its work once the infection was contracted. Quite early in the pandemic there was a very articulate immunologist on Sky News and she explained that a key factor is mankind's differing "immunity types". She seemed to be suggesting that not only do different people have different levels of immunity but also different types and that this is vital because if we all had the same immunity type a single virus could essentially wipe us all out. So differing immunity types is vital to the survival of the human race.
 

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There should not be excuse from losing sides. If they accept this for the love of money then they have nothing to say if things go wrong. Minor changes or not. There are changes. From how you arrive, how you use changings room to how you play games. If you want something more specific look at numbers of subs allowed. That will have impact on games.

I think you are taking it to easy with netural venues. Is it fair for us to play away at some place against SheU when we already played away against them? Is it ok that City will have advantage taken from them when they are not allowed to play at home in some games? Is it fair that Liverpool don't have to play away games? Why didn't any of relegation sides get any matches at neutral venue? Because they refused to play. I hope the other teams tell Premier League that they will NOT be moving their games. It is all politics.
If the only other alternative is not to play at all then yes it's fair.

What's not fair is PPG, or no champions, no relegation, no promotions, etc, that would be totally unfair.
 

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Strenuous exercise temporarily weakens your immune system, making footballers somewhat vulnerable to contracting the virus.
The complete picture will be that while exercise temporarily lowers WBC, it however helps to make having the virus a stroll in the pack as the organs will be in top shape.