Cricket World Cup/ICC Champions Trophy Draft - QF Crappy vs RedTiger

[2mufc0]

This draft is based on player performances in ICC World Cups and Champions Trophy only, only performances in these tournaments count, performances outside these tournaments carry no weight. Please vote according to this criteria.

TEAM CRAPPY

1. Sourav Ganguly
2. Neil Johnson
3. Kumara Sangakarra
4. Viv Richards
5. Martin Crowe (*)
6. Brendon Taylor (wk)
7. Shane Watson
8. Zaheer Khan
9. Damien Fleming
10. Mushtaq Ahmed
11. Alan Donald

VS

TEAM REDTIGER

1. S. Jayasuriya
2. A. Gilchrist †
3. R. Ponting ©
4. M. Jayawardene
5. Rahul Dravid
6. Misbah-ul-haq
7. Ryan ten Doeschate
8. Ian Botham
9. S. Akhtar
10. J. Srinath
11. I. Tahir


Crappy Writeup

Team Crappy

1. Sourav Ganguly
2. Neil Johnson
3. Kumara Sangakarra
4. Viv Richards
5. Martin Crowe (*)
6. Brendon Taylor (wk)
7. Shane Watson
8. Zaheer Khan
9. Damien Fleming
10. Mushtaq Ahmed
11. Alan Donald

Batting

The great Viv Richards leads the line up with a 100 against his name in a WC final. He was pretty much the best batsman in world ups until Sachin came about. Sangakarra, one of the best players of all time in any format and Martin Crowe, player of the tournament in 92 WC, further cements the middle order. Crowe was phenomenal in that world cup both as a player and a captain. Ganguly and Johnson open the batting. Ganguly, an all time ODI great, has exceptional ICC record while Johnson proved his mettle in 99 WC with great performances against the 2 best sides in the tournament - Oz and SA. Watson will play the role of enforcer/finisher in the line up with support of Brendon Taylor, who was absolutely brilliant for Zimbabwe in 2015 WC with aggregate of 405 runs.

Bowling

Alan Donald, Zaheer Khan and Damien Fleming is an excellent trio of pacers. Donald was consistent for SA in WCs as his records reflects while Zaheer Khan had a great world cup for India in 2003 (despite the poor performance in the final) and was possibly India's second most important player in 2011 World cup win. Even in the 2011 final where his final figures were not good due to leaking runs in the end, he pretty much set up the win by choking SriLanka at the beginning of the innings. Mushtaq Ahmed takes up the role of spinner having played the same role in 92 WC win for Pakistan with excellent figures. Watson and Johnson join the line up with both capable of bowling 10 overs each. Other bowling options are Richards and Ganguly making 8 bowlers in total.

Summary - 10 out of 11 players have better record in ICC tournaments compared to their career one. (Border Donald too). Overall team has great pedigree in terms of historically great ODI players with match winning performances in world cups.

RedTiger writeup

1. S. Jayasuriya

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 37
Not Outs: 3
Aggregate: 1165
Highest Score: 120
Average: 34.26
50s: 6
100s: 3
Ducks: 0
Scoring Rate 90.66
Opened Batting: 32

Bowling
Overs: 219.1
Balls: 1315
Maidens: 4
Runs Conceded: 1060
Wickets: 27
Average: 39.26
Best: 3/12
Economy Rate: 4.84
Strike Rate: 48.70

Fielding
Catches: 18
Most Catches in Match: 2

2. A. Gilchrist †

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 31
Not Outs: 1
Aggregate: 1085
Highest Score: 149
Average: 36.17
50s: 8
100s: 1
Ducks: 1
Scoring Rate 98.01
Opened Batting: 31

Wicket Keeping
Catches: 45
Stumpings: 7
Most Catches in Match: 6
Most Dismissals in Match: 6

3. R. Ponting (Cpt)

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 42
Not Outs: 4
Aggregate: 1743
Highest Score: 140*
Average: 45.87
50s: 6
100s: 5
Ducks: 1
Scoring Rate 79.95


Fielding
Catches: 28
Most Catches in Match: 3

Captaincy
Matches/Won/Lost: 29/26/2

4. M. Jayawardene

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 34
Not Outs: 3
Aggregate: 1100
Highest Score: 115*
Average: 35.48
50s: 5
100s: 4
Ducks: 3
Scoring Rate 85.94


Bowling
Overs: 24.0
Balls: 144
Maidens: 0
Runs Conceded: 131
Wickets: 2
Average: 65.50
4 Wicket Innings: 0
Best: 2/56
Economy Rate: 5.46
Strike Rate: 72.00

Fielding
Catches: 16
Most Catches in Match: 2

5. Rahul Dravid

Spoiler: World Cup stats

Batting

Innings: 21
Not Outs: 7
Aggregate: 860
Highest Score: 145
Average: 61.43
50s: 6
100s: 2
Ducks: 0
Scoring Rate 74.98
Opened Batting: 0

Fielding

Catches: 2
Most Catches in Match: 2

6. Misbah-ul-haq

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 13
Not Outs: 1
Aggregate: 598
Highest Score: 83*
Average: 49.83
50s: 7
100s: 0
Ducks: 1
Scoring Rate 74.56

Fielding
Catches: 6
Most Catches in Match: 2

7. R. Ten Doeschate

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 9
Not Outs: 2
Aggregate: 435
Highest Score: 119
Average: 62.14
50s: 3
100s: 2
Ducks: 0
Scoring Rate 88.41


Bowling
Overs: 72.0
Balls: 432
Maidens: 2
Runs Conceded: 473
Wickets: 9
Average: 52.56
4 Wicket Innings: 0
Best: 3/72
Economy Rate: 6.57
Strike Rate: 48.00

Fielding
Catches: 4
Most Catches in Match: 1

8. Ian Botham

Spoiler: World cup stats

Batting

Innings:18
Not Outs:2
Aggregate:297
Highest Score:53
Average:18.56
50s:1
100s:0
Ducks:2
Scoring Rate63.06


Bowling

Overs:222.0
Balls:1332
Maidens:33
Runs Conceded:762
Wickets:30
Average:25.40
4 Wicket Innings:1
Best:4/31
Economy Rate:3.43
Strike Rate:44.40

Fielding

Catches:10
Most Catches in Match:2

9. S. Akhtar

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 9
Not Outs: 7
Aggregate: 76
Highest Score: 43
Average: 38.00
50s: 0
100s: 0
Ducks: 1
Scoring Rate 111.76


Bowling
Overs: 148.5
Balls: 893
Maidens: 9
Runs Conceded: 765
Wickets: 30
Average: 25.50
4 Wicket Innings: 1
Best: 4/46
Economy Rate: 5.14
Strike Rate: 29.77

Fielding
Catches: 2
Most Catches in Match: 1

10. J. Srinath

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 18
Not Outs: 9
Aggregate: 85
Highest Score: 18
Average: 9.44
50s: 0
100s: 0
Ducks: 3
Scoring Rate 106.25


Bowling
Overs: 283.2
Balls: 1700
Maidens: 21
Runs Conceded: 1224
Wickets: 44
Average: 27.82
4 Wicket Innings: 2
Best: 4/30
Economy Rate: 4.32
Strike Rate: 38.64

Fielding
Catches: 4
Most Catches in Match: 1

11. I. Tahir

Spoiler: World Cup Stats

Batting

Innings: 4
Not Outs: 2
Aggregate: 9
Highest Score: 8
Average: 4.50
50s: 0
100s: 0
Ducks: 1
Scoring Rate 50.00


Bowling
Overs: 115.5
Balls: 695
Maidens: 5
Runs Conceded: 473
Wickets: 29
Average: 16.31
4 Wicket Innings: 4
Best: 5/45
Economy Rate: 4.08
Strike Rate: 23.97

Fielding
Catches: 4
Most Catches in Match: 1

Batting Order

1. S. Jayasuriya
2. A. Gilchrist †
3. R. Ponting ©
4. M. Jayawardene
5. Rahul Dravid
6. Misbah-ul-haq
7. Ryan ten Doeschate
8. Ian Botham
9. S. Akhtar
10. J. Srinath
11. I. Tahir


Bowlers

1. Akhtar
2. Srinath
3. Botham
4. Tahir
5. Jayasuriya
6. Ten Doeschate​

 

[2mufc0]

Good luck @crappycraperson @RedTiger

 

[RedTiger]

Dammit crappy! You're putting my write up to shame

Good luck mate.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

Two great teams here. Went for Crappy as I prefer his bowling and I'm struggling to choose between the awesomeness of those batting line-ups.

 

[RedTiger]

Come on guys! On a world cup level my bowlers are some of the best to ever appear!

 

[crappycraperson]

Come on guys! On a world cup level my bowlers are some of the best to ever appear!

Your bowling is underwhelming both in terms of numbers and quality. Jaya as 5th bowler with no realistic 6th bowler option is weak. Jaya and ten do are part time part timers.
While other that front 4 I have to proper all rounders in Watson and Johnson and even Viv + Ganguly are better options than your choices outside 5.

 

[RedTiger]

Your bowling is underwhelming both in terms of numbers and quality. Jaya as 5th bowler with no realistic 6th bowler option is weak. Jaya and ten do are part time part timers.
While other that front 4 I have to proper all rounders in Watson and Johnson and even Viv + Ganguly are better options than your choices outside 5.

The game is gonna last for 50 overs. My first 4 bowlers will bowl their full quota of 10, that leaves 10 overs for jayasuriya, doeschate and Jayawardene, that's more than enough.

Anyway, the bowling is secondary because you ain't outscoring my batsmen! I'm batting comfortably all the way down to 9 with high scoring rates above 75 for all of them.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

How was Dravid at #5? Iirc he was mostly at #3 and #4.

 

[RedTiger]

How was Dravid at #5? Iirc he was mostly at #3 and #4.

I'm going with his overall career appearances.

 

[Mani]

RedTigers front 4 is ,not remembering much of Ryan,is he much better batsmen than Botham?

 

[harshad]

I'm going with his overall career appearances.

Can't recollect Dravid playing much at no.5. How many appearances does he have overall at no.5

 

[crappycraperson]

Batting wise, I have better balance. I know Dravid batted at similar position in 2003 but I would still want him in early. Misbah n TenDo at 6/7 is meh and not the finishers you would want.

I have Ganguly up top, his ICC record is insane, better opener to have that Gilly for this draft. Sanga is 3rd in most wc runs list and then the great Viv. Crowe needs to get his due in this draft for his magnificent 92 WC too.

Sanga, Viv and Crowe is better 3/4/5 than the opposition 3 of Pointing, Jaya and Dravid.

 

[2mufc0]

Misbah is a great lower order bat.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

Can't recollect Dravid playing much at no.5. How many appearances does he have overall at no.5

It's close at ICC tournaments; 14 apps at #3 and 11 at #5. He has 698 runs, at 58.16 avg. and 81.63 SR at #3, with 542, 67.75, 68.78 at #5, so he scored more comparatively lower down but did so a fair bit slower. I prefer him one down, like he was in 1999 when he was the tournament's top-scorer, but was pretty great at #5 too.

I think crappy is being harsh on Misbah and RtD but you can't argue with Taylor/Watson at 6/7 for awesome finishing ability. However I also think Ganguly being a better opener than Gilchrist in this draft is hotly debatable, given Gilly's awesome knocks in big world cup games in '99, '03 and '07, but even if you prefer Ganguly I don't see him and Johnson as a better unit than Gilly-Jayasuriya. Both 3-4-5s are ridiculous; it almost comes down to personal taste but I'll give crappy the nod because I prefer Dravid at #3. It is very close though.

 

[crappycraperson]

It's close at ICC tournaments; 14 apps at #3 and 11 at #5. He has 698 runs, at 58.16 avg. and 81.63 SR at #3, with 542, 67.75, 68.78 at #5, so he scored more comparatively lower down but did so a fair bit slower. I prefer him one down, like he was in 1999 when he was the tournament's top-scorer, but was pretty great at #5 too.

I think crappy is being harsh on Misbah and RtD but you can't argue with Taylor/Watson at 6/7 for awesome finishing ability. However I also think Ganguly being a better opener than Gilchrist in this draft is hotly debatable, given Gilly's awesome knocks in big world cup games in '99, '03 and '07, but even if you prefer Ganguly I don't see him and Johnson as a better unit than Gilly-Jayasuriya. Both 3-4-5s are ridiculous; it almost comes down to personal taste but I'll give crappy the nod because I prefer Dravid at #3. It is very close though.

Gilly averages 36 while Ganguly averages 60+ for this draft, that's too big a gap. I don't think it is debatable at all that Ganguly is a better option for this draft. Jaya is better than Johnson will give you that. After that Pointing is the main standout from his line up and Viv from mine. Sanga was better player than Jaya and even in ICC has better records. Even in 2011 WC the latter scored a smashing century in the final but overall Sanga was Sri lanka's best batsman that edition. Even if we ignore debate over Dravid at 5, Crowe is simply better than him in this format and for WC performances. We are talking about man of the series player here.

Same analysis can be done for bowling, I have an edge over both clear as a day IMO.