we left 60 on the pitch there.. not often you say that after making 410
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) chats to author, Dan Williamson, about his new book 'If I Hadnt Seen Such Riches' which chronicles our 1990/91 European Cup Winners Cup victory, which is a trip down memory lane for those old enough to remember it and a vital history lesson for those who don't.
What a jinx
Blows up like this so often. Might end up a thrashing.
So we won. But it was basically because of that innings.
Find the whole saga between India, Bangladesh and Pakistan to be quite distasteful. For those unaware, laying the full context of how this situation developed.
1) Bangladesh is facing internal violence, some of it is based on religious identity. A Hindu man in Bangladesh was lynched to death.
2) In India, one of the fringe nationalistic elements which supports the Modi government started with a threat to Shah Rukh Khan (Bollywood superstar and owner of the KKR franchise in IPL). This is a common occurrence where high profile Muslims in India are regularly at the end of these so called fringe elements. The topic of concern this time around was that SRK (not the franchise, or the BCCI) should not have bought Mustafizur Rehman because of the said violence against Hindu minorities in Bangladesh.
3) When logical arguments flowed in defense of SRK that he did not personally decide to add Mustafizur in the auction, BCCI were either left to ignore the fringe element noise or act. Since there are upcoming elections in the state of West Bengal (where KKR is based), the BCCI (led by Modi govt stooges) dropped Mustafizur by stating that they cannot guarantee his safety in India.
4) Bangladesh took this as a national insult, especially because there is a decent fanbase of KKR within Bangladesh, and decided to skip traveling to India using the same reason BCCI gave them for dropping Mustafizur
5) Pakistan acted in an opportune manner to stand up for Bangladesh, even though it is purely out of political spite rather than any ethical reasons
As an Indian cricket fan (or ex-fan), it is disappointing and infuriating to see that a random element of a nationalistic fringe can have such an impact on the Cricket World Cup. BCCI is cowardly, has no independence of its own, and has completely become a political block of Modi's party. The only reason why India is pushing back against Pakistan's attempt at a boycott is because Modi's favourite crony is the broadcaster who will lose a bunch of money.
All in all, BCCI is leading the destruction of cricket as a global, international sport, and deserves all the criticism that comes its way. I wonder why the likes of Australia, England, South Africa or New Zealand don't speak out freely.
1) Bangladesh is facing internal violence, some of it is based on religious identity. A Hindu man in Bangladesh was lynched to death.
2) In India, one of the fringe nationalistic elements which supports the Modi government started with a threat to Shah Rukh Khan (Bollywood superstar and owner of the KKR franchise in IPL). This is a common occurrence where high profile Muslims in India are regularly at the end of these so called fringe elements. The topic of concern this time around was that SRK (not the franchise, or the BCCI) should not have bought Mustafizur Rehman because of the said violence against Hindu minorities in Bangladesh.
3) When logical arguments flowed in defense of SRK that he did not personally decide to add Mustafizur in the auction, BCCI were either left to ignore the fringe element noise or act. Since there are upcoming elections in the state of West Bengal (where KKR is based), the BCCI (led by Modi govt stooges) dropped Mustafizur by stating that they cannot guarantee his safety in India.
4) Bangladesh took this as a national insult, especially because there is a decent fanbase of KKR within Bangladesh, and decided to skip traveling to India using the same reason BCCI gave them for dropping Mustafizur
5) Pakistan acted in an opportune manner to stand up for Bangladesh, even though it is purely out of political spite rather than any ethical reasons
As an Indian cricket fan (or ex-fan), it is disappointing and infuriating to see that a random element of a nationalistic fringe can have such an impact on the Cricket World Cup. BCCI is cowardly, has no independence of its own, and has completely become a political block of Modi's party. The only reason why India is pushing back against Pakistan's attempt at a boycott is because Modi's favourite crony is the broadcaster who will lose a bunch of money.
All in all, BCCI is leading the destruction of cricket as a global, international sport, and deserves all the criticism that comes its way. I wonder why the likes of Australia, England, South Africa or New Zealand don't speak out freely.
Interesting post. I learned a number of things I wasn't aware of.
As to your last point, I'm sorry to say the answer is very simple....
Money.
The BCCI banning Mustafizur is distasteful, but a player being banned from a private league has nothing to do with the ICC and the world cup. It is ironic that you are asking for a separation of powers(the separation of BCCI/international sport), but yet you turn around and seem to endorse the Bangladesh board who are doing the exact opposite by clubbing Mustafizur's private IPL situation and the world cup for national teams.
What even is a "national insult"? Some emotional jingoistic nonsense -- why should international teams care if some idiot bureaucrat throws a strop and some other idiots burn an effigy?
The BCCI is not "leading the destruction of cricket". Cricket just isn't a sport that many people watch, the same way people don't watch other sports. There's nothing wrong with that. It just so happens that one player in the ecosystem has a lot of money at their disposal due to a large population. The presence of a rich board does not automatically make the counter factual outcome egalitarian in a beneficial way. If not for India, this dead sport would be deader by now. They have their good and the bad just like how all sporting bodies are run, and they've done plenty of good.
What private situation is Mustafizur facing? It wasn’t that he was banned because of his individual actions. The official reason given is that we can’t guarantee his safety (as a Bangladesh citizen) in India, so he’s been dropped. And this has happened during the rise of political tensions between the countries. BCCI didn’t have to take this step to escalate this into a political issue and conflate it with Cricket. They are run by BJP cronies, they wanted minor political points for an edge in the Bengal elections by taking a (rather stupid) stand on Mustafizur. What they didn’t expect is Bangladesh’s reaction.
The IPL is a private domestic league. The World Cup is an international tournament.
It’d be like if the PL banned Russian players and Russia refused to travel to a World Cup held in England.
If the ipl can guarantee his safety how can the icc guarantee the whole teams?
The ipl did not say it was for his safety.
Pakistan players have not played in the ipl for 17 years because the ipl does not allow it. Yet pakistan the cricket team has played World Cup games in India till a couple of years ago.
The other poster said it was. Is he lying?
google it.
According to Google, Mustafizur was removed from the KKR roster due to direct instructions from the BCCI. As you say, they didn't specifically say that it was for safety reasons, but due to "developments all across." However, the implication was that is was due to the tense diplomatic relations between the 2 countries and safety was a potential problem due to backlash for the killing of Hindus in the neighboring country.
It's absolutely fecking disgraceful.
Australia vs India women started their ODI series this evening and its the last one for Alyssa Healy. One of the greatest ever to do it as a batsman, wicketkeeper and captain. Injuries have started to take their toll over the last couple of years so not entirely surprised she's calling it a day.
By far my favorite women's cricketer of all time. Will miss watching her play.
By far my favorite women's cricketer of all time. Will miss watching her play.
Looks like J&K are in the verge of winning their first ever Ranji title. Great achievement in context of Indian domestic cricket.
Alyssa Healy playing her last T20 tonight and signs off with a century.
One of the best ever to do it.
Hundred partnership between Alyssa Healy and Beth Mooney.
One fifty for Healy. Last 50 in 16 balls.
Australia done at 409 for 7. Will be a tough ask for India. They've just got to hope Smriti can put a good innings together to get them on their way.
A duck for Smriti This could be over before its even really started.
Australia won the one and only test against India and won the series 12-4. Alyssa Healy is finally done.
following hundred auction.. who is expected to be the biggest sale.. so far the variation in sale price seems minimal
James Coles should go for a decent price. Only 21, in the last year he's averaging just over 30 at a strike rate of 150+ whilst also being a good left-arm spinner. Impressed in the SA20 recently as well so the Indian backed sides will be fully aware of him.
Can't say I'm that interested but it seems odd that the Leeds team have ignored Root, Bairstow and Rashid. Don't think the locals will be happy about that.
Good call
Good call on the Indian sides piece as well. London Spirit bought him - they've staffed up with RCB's coaching team who seem very good
Abrar Ahmed
Pakistan mystery spinner Abrar Ahmed has listed his base price at £75k. Sunrisers Leeds, who have IPL owners, begin the bidding for the mystery spinner. They face challenge from Trent Rockets. Turning the ball both ways is an attractive skill these days in T20 cricket and this bidding war proves it.
So it was all fake news?
Either that or the ECB have finally had some backbone and said that players must be considered no matter where they're from....
So you're right probably fake news then...
WTF is this shit?
That is disgraceful umpiring. You can clearly see that the bowler blocked the batsman's movement towards the crease even if you didn't think the ball was already dead. It's not a fecking contact sport. And of course the Bangladeshi bowler is an absolute no mark cnut as well.
Pretty deserved, ofcourse its bang bros being shitty sportsmen as usual, but agha makes absolutely no attempt to get back, who the feck decides collecting the ball with your hands as a batsman and giving it to the bowler takes priority over making it back to your crease.
Watch the original clip again from behind the bowler, the bowler clearly bumps into him. The umpire should never have reviewed that, really poor. And it's not what people come to watch let's face it.
This is disgusting stuff.
Where was this guy when India were playing Pakistan? He was probably happy picking up his cheque.
The Multan Sultans bowling is some of the worst I've ever seen in T20 cricket. The Hyderabad Kingsmen needed 42 off 2.1 overs and won with 3 balls to spare.
Cook does not seem to understand that when people sign up for the auction, it's for a contract to be in the squad.. not for them to pack their bags and go home if they're not in the 11 or when they feel like it.
Does he not realise all these criticism he is making is directly of Bethell and must be quite annoying to the player? He seems to think there's a 'big bad system' he is speaking out against. Bethell voluntarily put his name into the auction and he is free to not do that next time.
Does he not realise all these criticism he is making is directly of Bethell and must be quite annoying to the player? He seems to think there's a 'big bad system' he is speaking out against. Bethell voluntarily put his name into the auction and he is free to not do that next time.
How many County championship games end in results? There seems to be so many massive scores at slow run rates it seems impossible to leave time for a result