Not entirely. If he can take that form into the CL it could be a beautiful swansong moment in his favourite competition, and he’s seemed to be able to design his conditioning strategy to come into peak physical form around the CL knockout stages and beyond. Not sure if that’s true but it’s seemed like he’s found an extra gear at this point quite a few times since 2008, when a lot of other top players fade away, often struggling with injuries.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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It is true in a sense that in those years of 2006-2009, we had a high number of matches that went exactly like this one with obviously having a lot more solid defense with some players mainly Ronaldo and Rooney pulling a rabbit out of the hat while our general play was not as good as the likes of the current Pool or City.
And, we called it how champions won points or the mark of champions(?).
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This isn't meant in any way to bash Bruno, but maybe his absence on Saturday gave Ronaldo more space to work in without them both getting in each others way. His first goal came from being deeper.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Well this season has been our worst in the past 3 years, when focused around Ronaldo. Also just practically, building a team around a 37 year old vs a 27 year old is not planning for the future at all. If you are building a team around a 37 year old you need to win something immediately and we are one bad match tomorrow away from being out of all competitions by March and we are currently on course for our worst league finish since 2018/19.
Dude, your massive anti-Ronaldo obsession is really odd.
Just trying to cut through the Ronaldo-tinted bias of a lot of superfans who have some of the strangest fandom I know in sports. But okay, I’ll stop now.
Who doesn't? Ronaldo was always missing semi-big chances. It's not like Lewandowski has a goal per chance ratio.
No, that would just be impossible to do stats about in this medieval day and age.Don't stop. It's nice to have a reasonable view on here to balance things out. Most of these Ronaldo loyalists put him before the club and is completely faultless in their eyes. He's been a real hindrance since he signed despite his goals. The losses outweigh the gains for me. Many in here are a step away from transforming into Sonya Cross haha
What did Bruno win in the last 3 years? Wikipedia says nada, zippo, zilch with Utd. (well, they say he was runner up in the Europa League, but technically I believe that means he didn't win the Europa League).
Ronaldo won stuff with Juventus. Wikipedia says he won --
So I think evidence suggests that actually a team built around Ronaldo is more successful than a team built around Bruno Fernandez.
All good but has anyone built a team around Aaron Wan Bissaka yet?
This is the type of matches, for which he was brought in. I trust him to do well, with a little bit of hope.
Yeah because Juve who won 7 Serie As in a row and United who hadnt challenged in 7 years is a solid comparison. In fact didn't Madrid finally stop winning the league when Ronaldo was there?
I am talking about the Man United team, have you watched our team this season? How can you say it’s been successful? We bought Ronaldo to move up and win the league, not battle for 5th.
Also you didn’t address the other point, what is good team building about building a team around a player that’s 37? There’s no future in it, the whole point of it is instant success. And that’s fallen flat so far, let’s see how the CL goes but if we lose tomorrow the objective of what was the ultimate luxury/short-term signing has failed.
Madrid had their worst season in their history prior to Ronaldo going there. Humiliated by Barca and Liverpool home & away and couldn’t make it past the CL RO16 for 8 consecutive years. Their squad also had lots of dross that managed to trim when he got there (as well as some good players that went on to be successful elsewhere).
Real Madrid after Ronaldo joined were a totally different beast and only lost the league most times due to a near perfect Barca. They were getting 90+ points in the league almost every season which would be enough to claim the title in any other era.
I meant Juve. Not that it's very relevant other than to point out that you can't compare their trophies at Juve and United.
Texted in my friends' whatsapp group at the 8 min mark when Ronaldo had already fluffed 2 chances/shots, told them that now I do believe he's finished as a top player, then he scored that banger, they laughed at me and I told them he'll still score goals like these here and there, but these goals will be less and less frequent now. The savage then goes on to score two more goals. What a player, hope he has another season of 30ish goals in him. Would love to see him leave with a golden boot or something, if not a trophy.
I'm hoping Rangnick and Ronaldo can work together to take breaks when neccesary and go full out to win the CL.
Whilst it's unlikely, along as Ronaldo is able to perform to some good form then I'm not ruling out our CL chances.
Whilst it's unlikely, along as Ronaldo is able to perform to some good form then I'm not ruling out our CL chances.
That is quite remarkable.
I think we have chance to win tonight. But after that, we might face the likes of City, Bayern, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Chelseas, Ajax etc. I am not optimistic.
For him to stay beyond the summer he needs to accept his physical limitations. He should be used in certain games, come off the bench in others etc. If he wants to continue playing every game then its not going to work.
This idea that the Ronaldo signing is what caused all other players to drop form is ridiculous. I don't know why some keep clinging to it, it's bizarre.
That involves the club signing an alternative of course. Our only alternative this season has been Cavani and he's hardly ever available.
If he who shall not be named was still around we might have seen more rotation.
That's because he's so bad and ruins the team so he has to come up with winning goals to make up for the mess he he has caused.
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They still won 2 league titles with Ronaldo, and 5 trophies in 3 years.
To be fair, even PSG loss Ligue 1 title with Neymar and Mbappe last season. Are they making PSG worst?
Talking of hindrances, we'd be better off playing the kids than the donkey.
Jaysus, the point (being missed) is that it's silly to compare Ronaldo and Bruno's trophy hauls at Juve and United respectively. How many trophies is Ronaldo going to pick up at United this season? The point was more about Juve and United than Ronaldo and Bruno so you all don't need to get triggered.
I have thought this for awhile, even when you see them play for Portugal together. It doesnt seem to work.
Dont expect an answer to stupid questions.
I'm just quoting what you said,
Do we all agree that you got a bit carried away there with your Ronaldo-bashing? I could have added the RM wins, the Euro win, the Man Utd wins -- but a head to head comparison was enough to show that that obviously wasn't true.
Nope. People write silly things, get an answer.
You must get a lot of answers then.
Do you realise how stupid that would have been? Mentioning trophies Ronaldo won in his 20s/early 30s to win an argument about his contribution as a 37 year old?
This thread is fecking nuts.
Yes it's actually 4D chess because he is so obsessed with stats, he concedes the goals intentionally so that he can be top of the winning-goals charts. For this same reason, he insists on Maguire starting every single game. The man is a detriment to our club, clearly the biggest issue, and needs to be ousted immediately.
Yep, it's stupid, Sergio Ramos has won several times the number of trophies as Ruben Dias and Virgil Van Dijk combined, for example. Ibrahimovic has won way more trophies than Haaland, so we should buy Ibrahimovic next season as he's proven experience.
Van Persie had won feck all when he arrived at United in 2012/13, but maybe we should have bought Raul at this point because he was a more proven winner...
You have a lot of answers... yet you still haven't answered the logic of choosing to build a team around a 37 year old instead of a 27 year old.
Ok. Lets hope he keeps scoring as we have nobody else, pernaps Bruno who will step up to the required level. Glad Sancho is finding form too, he has bags of potential.
I do not think we should ever think of building a team around Ronaldo. He is too old for that but the question does he play better without Bruno is a genuine question. Maybe both of them get into the same space? I remember RVP complaining about other players getting into his space. Bruno, to me gets way too forward all the time. I think if he drops deeper into midfield, it would help our midfield more and give more space to our attackers and he can also have more time on the ball.
The problem is that Bruno is only average at that kind of play and is lethal (or was) in the second striker sort of play and the late runs, that's his skillset, and it was well-known by anyone who watched him play, or watch Ronaldo and Bruno play for Portugal. So why would you buy the two of them together, typically crap team building by United.
Come on Ronnie, tonight is the night. Drag United to a UCL victory at 37 year's old and no one will doubt who the GOAT is.
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