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He's one of the greatest players in United's history and I'll always love him for that, but unfortunately he's also a total bell-end.
If he gets a three match ban he'll no doubt be hoping Portugal lose the final group game and have to qualify via the play-offs.
Ha I was thinking the same
Lol
Roy keane's outburst as bad as it was wasn't to engineer his way out of the club. Ronaldo's was.
red car !!! Card
There are a few in the Portuguese media calling for him to be sacked, so if they drew against Armenia for example he could be gone before the World Cup.
Also as A Bola pointed out Ramos did more than Ronaldo in 12 minutes than Ronaldo had done in the whole game before that. So Ronaldo is an issue in attack, ideally for Portugal he’d miss the group stage and they’d score 3-4 goals with Ramos getting a few and a stronger manager than Martinez comes in and brings Ronaldo on as an impact player off the bench.
Actually really curious how long his ban will be. It's a textbook straight red for violent conduct that should be at least 2 games and I assume Portugal will easily top the group (basically just need a draw against Armenia).
But I just can't imagine FIFA allowing their golden boy to miss the first match at the world cup.
But I just can't imagine FIFA allowing their golden boy to miss the first match at the world cup.
Santos, as bad as he was, probably would have survived Qatar World Cup had he not gone head to head vs Ronaldo. Whoever is the manager, Ronaldo will play as long as he wants.
Apart from the 3 in the statue, he is only United player to win a Balon d'or while playing for the club. Seeing people hate him with such animosity is funny to me, many dont remember even the likes of Rooney wanted to leave the club.
he’ll easily get it reduced to a single match on appeal. he will claim his action deserved a red card but it wasn’t violent conduct as he didn’t really connect and that the irish are just vilifying him for going there and showing them what football looks like, just like how the irish don’t like the english because we went there to try and free them from themselves.
Rooney didn’t do an interview with Piers Morgan and was capable of putting the team above himself. Ronaldo would rather lose 4-3 but score a hat trick than win 4-0 but not score.
Hating him is a bit weird, but I would say the opposite is also true. United fans that have such reverence for a player that desperately wanted to leave and play elsewhere in his best years is also very strange for me. Especially considering he rolled out the slavery comments.
Does United have any true legends that didn't spend their best footballing years at this club? I don't think so.
Piers Morgan: Which bird do you hate the most?
Man child: Parrott
Piers Morgan: how did you feel after the red card?
Man child: It was the greatest red card in history and we have a video of it, better than winning the World Cup.
Man child: Parrott
Piers Morgan: how did you feel after the red card?
Man child: It was the greatest red card in history and we have a video of it, better than winning the World Cup.
Rooney was never the self centered egomaniac that Ronaldo turned out to be. He made mistakes, wanted to leave the club but ended up staying and always gave everything for the team, eventually leaving the club on good terms. It's easy to see why one is remembered with a lot more fondness than the other.
Even his non "best footballing years" at United far eclipse a lot of what legends of our club have accomplished here. He's not even my top 5 favourite United players I have seen (Rooney, Scholes, Giggs, Berbatov, RvP), but seeing the amount of hate he gets here is more than the like of Stevie G or Carragher get. And for what, for *checks notes* an interview w Piers Morgan? Alrighty
People don’t hate/dislike him because they don’t appreciate that he was a brilliant, otherworldly player.
Yeah him being a massive egotistic asshole is probably the reason. But still, I have no bad feelings towards him. You probably need to be mental like that to have the work ethic he has. I just cant harbour too much negative energy towards someone who is literally top 5 best players to ever play for the club, similar to why I dont hate Giggsy.
Now Carragher and the likes, yeah they can get fecked
There is also the very credible rape accusation, that might cause a few people to reconsider their opinion of him.
Technically we are counting up aren't we
He’ll receive the official World Cup Trump Card™ that’ll allow him to participate in the competition without suffering legal repercussions of any of his previous actions. If he wins the World Cup, he can always pardon himself as the new President of football.
Revealed via his own parade down a Main Street, sitting on the back of a convertible Hulk Hogan style.
how would a convertible hulk hogan work? you can lift off the top of his head by his moustache?
His trophy haul doesn't far eclipse anything that legends of our club have accomplished, by my definition of "legend" at least. Other fans can have different thresholds for who is a legend and that's fine. For three seasons he was individually better than almost anyone to have played for the club ever though.
Like I said, I don't hate him (or any other player really), but it's obviously more than an interview. To me he comes across as a massively entitled and narcissistic knob, and he shows it quite consistently. And yes, him palling around with the likes of Piers Morgan and Jordan Peterson doesn't help. Great player, but pretty insufferable.
I don't think FIFA will have a choice, it was clear as day what he did.
But FIFA also never had a problem with openly showing blatant favoritism and corruption in the past years, so I'd say it's 50/50.
I reckon whatever “hate” United fans have for Ronaldo is fuelled by his legions of simpering online fans much more than anything he’s done himself. It’s so fecking cringe to see fans of Manchester United so emotionally involved in a player who’s really just a relatively minor player in the history of this club. Especially when he is so much more than that for a completely different club, Real Madrid.
It’s perfectly natural for people who feel strongly about club loyalty (i.e. most football fans) to get irritated by this sort of thing and turn that irritation on the player concerned. Which is obviously helped by him being such an obvious, douche who seems to enjoy the company of other obvious douches.
It’s perfectly natural for people who feel strongly about club loyalty (i.e. most football fans) to get irritated by this sort of thing and turn that irritation on the player concerned. Which is obviously helped by him being such an obvious, douche who seems to enjoy the company of other obvious douches.
Getting red cards in Europe is easier than in Saudi league.
I feel like Barcelona-Real Madrid was such an intense rivalry in the 2010s that even if you didn’t support one of them, a lot of people picked a side to sympathise more with.
Mourinho, Ramos and Ronaldo just wasn’t the side for me, and then Real Madrid’s antics in Europe were irritating later on. Barcelona obviously weren’t great either but personally can’t stand Real Madrid the most, so him being a front and centre as a Real Madrid legend didn’t help things.
A all-time great of the game obviously but add all this to his personality, self-absorbed playing style and the fanbase and it’s just a very hard player to like.
This! I loved him so much when he was becoming the twat he eventually turned into. Can't stand him since he left the first time. I knew he'd be a past it weapon the second time around.
Tbf he was our most iconic player in the 2nd most most successful period of the club and for 3 seasons for some at least it felt like we had the world's best player for the first time since the trinity. Of course he spent half his 1st stint and half his 2nd stint wanting out and being a drama queen. But i think for the younger generation who weren't really around before Ronaldo the fanboyism makes more sense. I grew up with Giggs as my idol. It ruined my family relations, but i still respect him as a player.
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As time goes on, these things will be forgotten and he will take his rightful place as one of United's biggest legends. You notice with controversial players from the past that eventually, people only remember the good stuff.
Not sure I’d describe him as a “relatively minor” figure in our history, that’s probably understating his contribution during his first stint.
The cringe aspect for me is that there is no reciprocal element to the devotion - Ronaldo clearly doesn’t really give much of a shite about United in the grand scheme of things. It’s probably accurate to say that he regards his time at United as a “relatively minor” period in his career. The contrast with somebody like Cantona for example, who actually spent less time at Old Trafford, is very clear. To me anyway. Which is why I really struggle to understand any United fan who puts them in the same category.
It's not that hard to get it why he is a United Legend, he is an all timer, for some the freaking GOAT, a record holder of numerous stuff and he played great in United. That is sthg to as Club be proud of and will be for ever there. Even in League terms and the insular traits the EPL has since ever.
Of course the traditional ultra every match assistant fan, might have more issues for ever, I have friends of Boca in such mold that hate fellas that are vastly considered idols.
When time passes the irritating stuff will weight a lot less and BTW even as fans, we have to agree that our Clubs do not always do the right or good thing, nor does (since Roy was brought here) Godlike praised managers.
The traitor or doesn't love the Club it's the easiest card avaiable for any Coach or Manager at any Club historically, I'm talking in general here, even players with a past of controversies, not always are on the wrong nor Clubs and coaches are saints that do not know the power of using the fan base on their advantage.
PD: for many people the dislike it's as simple as finding hard to deal with his declarations, attitudes, the people in traditional or social media that have feed themselves with him...others add to this that they also do not find him as GOAT alike as it's established.
Of course the traditional ultra every match assistant fan, might have more issues for ever, I have friends of Boca in such mold that hate fellas that are vastly considered idols.
When time passes the irritating stuff will weight a lot less and BTW even as fans, we have to agree that our Clubs do not always do the right or good thing, nor does (since Roy was brought here) Godlike praised managers.
The traitor or doesn't love the Club it's the easiest card avaiable for any Coach or Manager at any Club historically, I'm talking in general here, even players with a past of controversies, not always are on the wrong nor Clubs and coaches are saints that do not know the power of using the fan base on their advantage.
PD: for many people the dislike it's as simple as finding hard to deal with his declarations, attitudes, the people in traditional or social media that have feed themselves with him...others add to this that they also do not find him as GOAT alike as it's established.
I doubt very much that will happen. This is the issue with winning that fugazi Nations League - it's given a poor manager money in the bank.
We have a proper tournament between European nations, it's called the Euros. No idea why people think the Nations League has any real legitimacy, in the light of that fact.
In strict football terms the NL was more than a proper Tourno and it might grow its prestige in the future or fall flat, but this does not take away that the football displayed was at times quite good and with teams really going for it.
If CR winning the NL apparently opened the door to demerit Copa America in order to take a dig on Messi, or put the competition in the same terms of an Euro in prestige, it's another matter. Indeed nowadays NL does not have Prestige, not even close to an Euro, but the last iterations had proper games and were proper Tournos.
As a side note I find it way more silly Gatusso complaining about the South American Qualifiers, when Italy can barely win against Macedonia or Moldova and do not have the slightlest idea of how harsh SA quailifiers can be.
The last 4 years have been a disaster for him PR wise, be it Piers Morgan, ridiculous statements about league quality or former teammates, his United exit, doing wanking gestures in front of 600 fans or handicapping an entire nation’s chances just so he can get to 1000 goals.
He should be a confident, comfortable legend, who lets his career speak for him, but he is degrading his legacy massively with constant insecurity and childishness. It’s sad.
He should be a confident, comfortable legend, who lets his career speak for him, but he is degrading his legacy massively with constant insecurity and childishness. It’s sad.