Cristiano Ronaldo - 976/1000 | Football only

Having that midfield three with him in front of it when he is absolutely glued to a peno spot awaiting a cross, is like having an F1 chassis without the engine.
 
You can debate about who had the best career or best peak (between Messi and Ronaldo) but right now, they’re miles apart. Ronaldo is just ticking along on the off chance his teammates win him a WC and to get to 1,000.

Could take him two seasons to get to 1,000 at this rate.
Only argument is in the minds of the most incredibly biased Ronaldo fans. At no point in his career has he ever been better than Lionel Messi. Legendary career in his own right but just does not compare to Messi's.
 
Only argument is in the minds of the most incredibly biased Ronaldo fans. At no point in his career has he ever been better than Lionel Messi. Legendary career in his own right but just does not compare to Messi's.

Exactly.
 
Would have thought he would be at least a bit more respected at least as a player on a United forum. Might be the squabble with Ten Hag (I know my fellow United fans are extremely sensitive about such matters. The fans have fallen out with pretty much every high-profile Sir Alex United player at some point) but anyway I suspect it's more to do with the levels of pro Messi propaganda?

I also think that's largely why Messi has been doing so well recently with Argentina and Ronaldo has been failing. The media can play are huge part on the mental side of things etc. That being said, Messi did have a great performance vs Algeria.
 
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BBC team petrified to criticize him. Is his thing where he ignores anyone that criticizes him even in the slightest truly that powerful?
 
Congo's defenders were excellent in dealing with aerial deliveries, showing both the discipline to intercept crosses and the physical presence to dominate aerial duels from wide areas services. However, he did little to make their job difficult. He rarely dropped deeper to drag his marker out of position and showed very little activity inside the penalty area to gain an advantage over his defenders.

Tbf, he did have three opportunities, but he squandered all of them himself, even though the Congolese defenders were applying pressure. What was particularly concerning was his tendency to "stand in" offside positions throughout the first half, which repeatedly disrupted promising attacks.

Overall, it was a very poor performance. He looked passive, lacked urgency, and appeared sluggish/slow in his lateral movement. This was especially frustrating given how hard his teammates were working to create opportunities for him; they seemed desperate to get him involved, yet he offered very little in return.

Perhaps we will need to wait for the next few matches to gain a clearer picture of his form. Currently, however, Ronaldo appears to be a player who relies heavily on high-quality service and precise final balls from his teammates. He still possesses the instinct and intelligence to find space and position himself in goalscoring situations, but his overall display today was surprisingly passive and slow. For long periods, he seemed detached from the game and lacked the intensity and lateral movement.
 
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If I were a Portugal fan I’d be annoyed that, at 41, there is still a demand (be it pressure from media / stature / sponsors etc) to start him.

He’d be so much better being a squad player and coming off the bench should they need him rather than start him.

But credit to Ronaldo - I can’t name any other outfield player who at 41 can do what he still does, yet alone many mid 30 pro players

Do what? Perform half decent in a farmers league and win the league once in 4 seasons?
 
It’s funny when you see players like Rooney retiring gracefully enough because and saying it was because they wanted to ‘give the young lads a chance’ and having enough dignity to know when to call it a day. When you have Ronaldo who is opposite. Poor Bruno has spent the entire peak of his Portugal career with him in front of him and may retire before him at this rate.
 
Rooney just said he wanted to see Portuguese players running past Ronaldo at times. Make your bloody mind up.
 
If I were a Portugal fan I’d be annoyed that, at 41, there is still a demand (be it pressure from media / stature / sponsors etc) to start him.

He’d be so much better being a squad player and coming off the bench should they need him rather than start him.

But credit to Ronaldo - I can’t name any other outfield player who at 41 can do what he still does, yet alone many mid 30 pro players
Amble around uselessly? I reckon most of them could.
 
Only argument is in the minds of the most incredibly biased Ronaldo fans. At no point in his career has he ever been better than Lionel Messi. Legendary career in his own right but just does not compare to Messi's.

His ego and greed is just emphasizing it at this stage. He will be shown up by his biggest rival on the worlds’ biggest stage.

He was clearly past it at this level 4 years ago, it’s just humiliation now, and no one brave enough to step in.
 
Irish fans will have seen this Portugal/Ronaldo performance before, very similar strategy by DR Congo that worked a treat. He’s been gradually dropping off and dropped off another level in the past year it seems.
 
Would have thought he would be at least a bit more respected at least as a player on a United forum. Might be the squabble with Ten Hag (I know my fellow United fans are extremely sensitive about such matters. The fans have fallen out with pretty much every high-profile Sir Alex United at some point) but anyway I suspect it's more to do with the levels of pro Messi propaganda?

I also think that's largely why Messi has been doing so well recently with Argentina and Ronaldo has been failing. The media can play are huge part on the mental side of things etc. That being said, Messi did have a great performance vs Algeria.
To me it's more that he's a rapist.
 
Time for opponent fans to sing "messii, mpasiiii"
 
His ego and greed is just emphasizing it at this stage. He will be shown up by his biggest rival on the worlds’ biggest stage.

He was clearly past it at this level 4 years ago, it’s just humiliation now, and no one brave enough to step in.
Ironically I think he could have kept the "better than Messi" discussion alive into perpetuity had he retired a few years back. Though at both their peaks I've always enjoyed CR7 more (despite being a douche canoe), at this point he's surely making even his staunchest fans question things.
 
It’s funny when you see players like Rooney retiring gracefully enough because and saying it was because they wanted to ‘give the young lads a chance’ and having enough dignity to know when to call it a day. When you have Ronaldo who is opposite. Poor Bruno has spent the entire peak of his Portugal career with him in front of him and may retire before him at this rate.

To be fair, Rooney (despite possibly being my favourite ever United player) stank it up for years before he decided to even leave a top club. He was awful for a long time.

Cantona probably the best example from United, but lots seem to struggle to realize they are done. Rooney certainly did. I think the issue is that Ronaldo is so famous and so legendary that there isn’t anyone powerful enough to say no.
 
When do we think was the optimum time for him to retire to best leave his legacy intact? Ignoring the bajillion pounds he’s made extending it, purely on football.
 
Do what? Perform half decent in a farmers league and win the league once in 4 seasons?
Yeah he was third top scorer behind Quinones and Toney. Toney is England’s back-up striker, which is fine, if he was carrying England’s attack and unstoppable though people would be asking serious questions.
 
You can debate about who had the best career or best peak (between Messi and Ronaldo) but right now, they’re miles apart. Ronaldo is just ticking along on the off chance his teammates win him a WC and to get to 1,000.

Could take him two seasons to get to 1,000 at this rate.
He scored plenty of goals in Saudi League last season, think he will against next season. Should get to 1000 by the end of 2026/27 season and perhaps finally retire.
 
Would have thought he would be at least a bit more respected at least as a player on a United forum. Might be the squabble with Ten Hag (I know my fellow United fans are extremely sensitive about such matters. The fans have fallen out with pretty much every high-profile Sir Alex United at some point) but anyway I suspect it's more to do with the levels of pro Messi propaganda?

I also think that's largely why Messi has been doing so well recently with Argentina and Ronaldo has been failing. The media can play are huge part on the mental side of things etc. That being said, Messi did have a great performance vs Algeria.
Why narrow it down to "recently"? Messi's entire career plaudits has just been good PR
 
Just wait til he scores a pen in the 3rd group game and makes it all about him.
Yep, weirdly it could work out that Portugal need a goal to qualify for the second round and avoid x opponent… and sure enough CR7 comes to the rescue, milks it, and suddenly he becomes even more undroppable.
 
Outshined by the true GOAT once again. Once again. I can’t believe he still tries to compete with Messi ffs. It was never close.
 
When do we think was the optimum time for him to retire to best leave his legacy intact? Ignoring the bajillion pounds he’s made extending it, purely on football.
I think Euro 2021 for Portugal where he was decent and after United experiment failed, a season at Sporting and call it a day.
 
I expected that he’d go missing. Didn’t stop the absolute nauseating commentary though
 
Ironically I think he could have kept the "better than Messi" discussion alive into perpetuity had he retired a few years back. Though at both their peaks I've always enjoyed CR7 more (despite being a douche canoe), at this point he's surely making even his staunchest fans question things.

He definitely could have, there would have been arguments and discussions, but the last 5-6 years have seemingly been all about killing the argument dead.

Finishing with 60-70 more goals won’t even make a dent, but in his own mind, it’s seemingly everything.

They could have both claimed equal longevity, but Messi is going to claim that now too. Infinitely better at 39 than Ronaldo.
 
He is done.
Should follow Messi path. Miami, beaches, no stress...
He reminds me on my father. Successful but he was never happy. He was good dad, but he never found his own peace. Probably trauma from growing up in poverty.
 
He definitely could have, there would have been arguments and discussions, but the last 5-6 years have seemingly been all about killing the argument dead.

Finishing with 60-70 more goals won’t even make a dent, but in his own mind, it’s seemingly everything.

They could have both claimed equal longevity, but Messi is going to claim that now too. Infinitely better at 39 than Ronaldo.
There has never been a period where Ronaldo was close to Messi.
 
Do what? Perform half decent in a farmers league and win the league once in 4 seasons?

My mate lives and works in Saudi, he says the Saudis hate him and his attitude. They aren't very keen on him at all, which is sad given the amazing moments he's given the game.

This refusal to retire at International level is crazy though, he's literally destroying Portugals hopes of potentially winning the whole thing.
 
Outshined by the true GOAT once again. Once again. I can’t believe he still tries to compete with Messi ffs. It was never close.
Messi is 3 years his younger and a different body shape to Ronaldo. You can see Messi has better mobility, Ronaldo has lost the ability to burst for the ball and correct his feet quick enough to finish driven low balls.