Cristiano Ronaldo - 976/1000 | Football only

[Shinjch]

Can someone please clarify something for me. Is the whole Ronaldo online fandom very manosphere adjacent?

My 17 year old son and his friends won't hear a bad word about him. And I'm starting to worry that doesn't have much to do with football (at their age, they've only ever watched him play crap)

It's how our social media conflict algorithms work. Ronaldo vs Messi is one of the online debates that splits people nicely into camps, which then help some actors to target their followers for other conflicts/opportunities while driving their own engagement too. A lot of those involved online in the debate will have never watched a full football match, but they are invovled for their own ends.

Sounds awfully conspiratorial, but seems that's where we are in a lot of online spaces now.

 

[fallengt]

I didn't watch the game but is it safe to say Portugal would have won if he didn't played?

Probably no?
But Spain missed so many chances. Who wouldve known Portugal could have fluked a goal without him

Portugal NT was very disappointing for the whole tournament. Ronaldo was just cherry on top.

 

[BD]

Asking someone their opinion on Ronaldo has for ages been a great way of quickly figuring out if they're worth listening to or not. For their opinions on football at least, but then more recently their opinion on just about anything. If they're over 20 y/o and go to bat for Ronaldo, you can ignore them completely. In that sense, he will be missed.

 

[Raul Madrid]

Imo Portugal played well vs Spain. They could have won, I would say.

 

[The Firestarter]

Weghorst. Wout Weghorst.

Licence to miss.

 

[Real Name]

Imo Portugal played well vs Spain. They could have won, I would say.

Nah, other than Nuno Mendes hitting the post they barely created anything and parked the bus most of the 2nd half.

 

[FrankDrebin]

I thought it was a dreadful game really.

 

[GhastlyHun]

Not sure why Ronaldo of all people would be considered a patron saint of the manosphere movement.

Half the time he's bawling his eyes out.

There *is* the (alleged) rape and getting away with it, aside from the relentless self-aggrandizing, soo.. perfect for spineless would-be-Tates

 

[miked99]

One of THE greatest players I've ever seen wearing a United shirt, yet one of my least favourite players ever to wear a United shirt. Saddens me a bit, really.

For all the great stuff he's done in the past, Portugal have been completely hamstrung by his existence for a few years now and it's cost them dearly.

 

[bakalhau]

I think Ronaldo summed it up well 2 days ago in the press conference. "Other players are doing very well and I think I'm not doing too badly". I think he didn't do too badly. Certainly not top class, but absolutely not bad for his context and age.

As a Portuguese, and this is just my view on the overall story, this guy consistently was our best player or one of the best for over a decade. We won trophies, FINALLY, with him, and the other players. He leaves us with the track record, the trophies, and a wave of inspiration for our young folks in Portugal who wish to become pro footballers based on his professionalism, work ethic, mentality and passion.

I can't see anything more I could've asked from Ronaldo. Immense, immense player for us. Thank you.

 

[Raul Madrid]

Given that imo Portugal played well vs Spain, I consider yesterday to have been a big chance for Ronaldo to score in a big game in the knockouts of the WC.

 

[Glorio]

I think Ronaldo summed it up well 2 days ago in the press conference. "Other players are doing very well and I think I'm not doing too badly". I think he didn't do too badly. Certainly not top class, but absolutely not bad for his context and age.

As a Portuguese, and this is just my view on the overall story, this guy consistently was our best player or one of the best for over a decade. We won trophies, FINALLY, with him, and the other players. He leaves us with the track record, the trophies, and a wave of inspiration for our young folks in Portugal who wish to become pro footballers based on his professionalism, work ethic, mentality and passion.

I can't see anything more I could've asked from Ronaldo. Immense, immense player for us. Thank you.

Apart from not sabotaging your international trophy chances since then by insisting on playing way past his peak and blunting your attack.

 

[bakalhau]

Apart from not sabotaging your international trophy chances since then by insisting on playing way past his peak and blunting your attack.

That's your view, not mine. I respect it, but I have my own informed perspective on it, and I am very comfortable with it. He's certainly not perfect, like any other person, and I don't let my liking for him blind me and make me put him on a pedestal.

 

[Nickelodeon]

I think Ronaldo summed it up well 2 days ago in the press conference. "Other players are doing very well and I think I'm not doing too badly". I think he didn't do too badly. Certainly not top class, but absolutely not bad for his context and age.

As a Portuguese, and this is just my view on the overall story, this guy consistently was our best player or one of the best for over a decade. We won trophies, FINALLY, with him, and the other players. He leaves us with the track record, the trophies, and a wave of inspiration for our young folks in Portugal who wish to become pro footballers based on his professionalism, work ethic, mentality and passion.

I can't see anything more I could've asked from Ronaldo. Immense, immense player for us. Thank you.

Personally think that Portugal could’ve benefited a lot by playing on the counter using Bruno as a focal point and having pace up front and on the wings. Bring Ronaldo on every game and the freshness would offset his lack of legs. Ultimately, Portugal exited, which isn’t a disaster since it was Spain. It just gave the feeling that they didn’t even try. That’s the most disappointing thing as a neutral.

 

[Kaos]

There *is* the (alleged) rape and getting away with it, aside from the relentless self-aggrandizing, soo.. perfect for spineless would-be-Tates

Yeah fair enough.

I know his obsessive vanity probably strikes a chord with the new 'looksmaxxing' weirdo sub-culture that seems to be a thing now, just didn't figure he'd be a poster boy for the tate brand of faux-masculinity and misogynistic bravado, but the allegations circling around probably enamour the incel weirdos within that sub-cuture.

 

[RedDevil [NC]]

Yeah fair enough.

I know his obsessive vanity probably strikes a chord with the new 'looksmaxxing' weirdo sub-culture that seems to be a thing now, just didn't figure he'd be a poster boy for the tate brand of faux-masculinity and misogynistic bravado, but the allegations circling around probably enamour the incel weirdos within that sub-cuture.

God that’s the worst sub culture in quite sometime

 

[Møllemanden]

I can't see anything more I could've asked from Ronaldo. Immense, immense player for us. Thank you.

I like your post.

He has earned the right play for as long as he wants to. I would have been grateful as well, if my national team had a player like that.

It's a bit of an ambivalent feeling though. I appreciate the time he spent at the club, but at the same time I was utterly disappointed in him when he'd rather play for Madrid. Didn't understand it then and still don't.

There are things about him that I do not like. Doesn't change the fact that I love the guy for his passion and what he gave to Man Utd.

A truly incredible athlete.

 

[tenpoless]

Can someone please clarify something for me. Is the whole Ronaldo online fandom very manosphere adjacent?

My 17 year old son and his friends won't hear a bad word about him. And I'm starting to worry that doesn't have much to do with football (at their age, they've only ever watched him play crap)

Do they happen to watch Ishowspeed as well?

 

[Devil81]

Scary to think he's left the door open to a the possibility of Euro 2028.

Surely the new manager has to retire him by not picking him.

 

[Glorio]

The Ronaldo vs Messi discourse probably irritates me more than it should.

Last week my 9 year old daughter who has little interest in football asked me "who do you support -Ronaldo or Messi?" (obviously from a classroom debate, or something) - it was interesting, as having been on holiday about 3 weeks ago, a group of youths asked me the same thing.

Anyway, back to my daughter, I proceeded to explain to her that football, unlike tennis or boxing, is a team sport, and that the support of individuals over teams makes little sense.
I told her I supported Ronaldo as a United player when he was at United and stopped when he left.

 

[The Firestarter]

Scary to think he's left the door open to a the possibility of Euro 2028.

Surely the new manager has to retire him by not picking him.

Good luck with that being the former Al-nassr manager

 

[Satnev scholsey]

I think Ronaldo summed it up well 2 days ago in the press conference. "Other players are doing very well and I think I'm not doing too badly". I think he didn't do too badly. Certainly not top class, but absolutely not bad for his context and age.

As a Portuguese, and this is just my view on the overall story, this guy consistently was our best player or one of the best for over a decade. We won trophies, FINALLY, with him, and the other players. He leaves us with the track record, the trophies, and a wave of inspiration for our young folks in Portugal who wish to become pro footballers based on his professionalism, work ethic, mentality and passion.

I can't see anything more I could've asked from Ronaldo. Immense, immense player for us. Thank you.

Which trophies? A fluked Euro 2016 where Portugal won only 1 game vs Wales and he was neither the top scorer nor the best player? Or is it the glorified friendlies i.e nations league?

I find the exaggerations of Ronaldo's contributions really annoying. There isn't a single world cup in which he played well individually. His goal record for Portugal is largely due to statpadding vs the likes of Albania and Estonia.

 

[TheScriptwriter]

I think there is 50/50 chance that he will try to make the squad for Euro 2028.

 

[Glorio]

That's your view, not mine. I respect it, but I have my own informed perspective on it, and I am very comfortable with it. He's certainly not perfect, like any other person, and I don't let my liking for him blind me and make me put him on a pedestal.

Fair enough - even if it's a head scratcher why you'd be fine with a footballing nation such as yours packing it in for a number of competitions to accommodate someone who really shouldn't be playing at this level (or maybe you think his involvement has elevated, rather than inhibited the team?).

I'll give you this, you sound a lot more balanced than most of his fandom.

 

[Ruud_Street]

Scary to think he's left the door open to a the possibility of Euro 2028.

Surely the new manager has to retire him by not picking him.

Option from the bench why not? Superb penalty taker and always likely to nob in a goal. Shouldn't be starting, but they're not exactly blessed with many decent strikers. I'd guess he'll surpass his 1000 goals well before then. so no idea if he'll still have the desire to keep on going.

 

[Raoul]

Option from the bench why not? Superb penalty taker and always likely to nob in a goal. Shouldn't be starting, but they're not exactly blessed with many decent strikers. I'd guess he'll surpass his 1000 goals well before then. so no idea if he'll still have the desire to keep on going.

He will keep going to finish #1 all time, which could potentially be in jeopardy if he retires next year and Messi continues playing for a few more years.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeah fair enough.

I know his obsessive vanity probably strikes a chord with the new 'looksmaxxing' weirdo sub-culture that seems to be a thing now, just didn't figure he'd be a poster boy for the tate brand of faux-masculinity and misogynistic bravado, but the allegations circling around probably enamour the incel weirdos within that sub-cuture.

I think there’s a generation gap at play here. The definition of masculinity has changed radically in a fairly short period of time. For men below a certain age there just isn’t any contradiction in getting a shot of Botox and waxing your back, sack and crack before going out to try and snare a trad wife.

 

[MrEleson]

You have to wonder what kind of grown ass adult you have to be to admire this monumental twat.

Ask the countless highly successful footballers who do and still do till this day.

Kvara went straight to his Instagram to post an edit about him as soon as Portugal were eliminated. Nedved posted about him as did many others. Clearly the respect and admiration amongst his peers (people that have actually interacted with him in the same sphere) is enormous.

 

[EireRed_GS]

Option from the bench why not? Superb penalty taker and always likely to nob in a goal. Shouldn't be starting, but they're not exactly blessed with many decent strikers. I'd guess he'll surpass his 1000 goals well before then. so no idea if he'll still have the desire to keep on going.

This would be ideal with any other self aware person yes.. But with Ronaldo, he's more than likely going to kick up a fuss and throw his toys out of the pram if hes not the first name on the team sheet no matter what age he is.. They are just better off without that at this stage,, plus come the euros he will have declined significantly more. The drama that brings to the squad just isnt worth it

 

[Real Name]

You have to wonder what kind of grown ass adult you have to be to admire this monumental twat.

I love how some of them are responding to your post as seen above.

 

[Top_Bins]

He will keep going to finish #1 all time, which could potentially be in jeopardy if he retires next year and Messi continues playing for a few more years.

Terms and conditions:

1. The Term #1 is only to be used during the absense of a Mr Lionel Messi.
2. If Mr Messi is included in the discussion then #2 will also, sometimes, be referred to as #1, except when discussions include numbers of goals scored, then #1 may be used with the addition of an asterisk.
3. When discussing national achievements, the term #1 is not to be used, unless in a European context.
4. The term #1 is to be used in a vague sense of greatness, but #2 is the preferred option when describing the behaviour of #1.

 

[Raoul]

Terms and conditions:

1. The Term #1 is only to be used during the absense of a Mr Lionel Messi.
2. If Mr Messi is included in the discussion then #2 will also, sometimes, be referred to as #1, except when discussions include numbers of goals scored, then #1 may be used with the addition of an asterisk.
3. When discussing national achievements, the term #1 is not to be used, unless in a European context.
4. The term #1 is to be used in a vague sense of greatness, but #2 is the preferred option when describing the behaviour of #1.

Even though Messi's name was mentioned, this is not a Ronaldo v Messi thread, so lets keep things on topic.

 

[cafecillos]

Ask the countless highly successful footballers who do and still do till this day.

Kvara went straight to his Instagram to post an edit about him as soon as Portugal were eliminated. Nedved posted about him as did many others. Clearly the respect and admiration amongst his peers (people that have actually interacted with him in the same sphere) is enormous.

 

[Deco10Legend]

Gratitude doesn’t win trophies.
Yes he was the best ever for Portugal but time catches up with everybody.

JJ is a good coach and plays decent football. Hopefully he will not cave in to Ronaldo. Saudi is one thing but this is another.

Plus the public opinion is shifting against Ronaldo in Portugal. It’s time for him to leave. He is not doing himself any favors.
Thanks but leave.

 

[Gazza]

I remember ancelotti kept playing Ronaldo and the best players alongside him so he could keep scoring when people felt they should be rested. According to balague in February 2015 madrid and Chelsea had players that played the most minutes that season. Madrid struggled in the 2nd half of that season and arguably lost out because of bad rotation. Even ancelotti bowed to player power. Maybe only ferguson, mourinho and guardiola wouldn't do what martinez has done.

Ten Hag did it too!

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Ten Hag did it too!

Yup. There’s a lot of strong personalities in football management who would have benched Ronaldo. Didn’t their manager do it at the last WC too? But if the FA is imposing conditions they will only hire the meek.

Also Ancelotti bringing on a half fit Neymar is also wrong but to be fair that was something he gave a shot - it wasn’t as though his entire plan was built around neymar and not that we’d know, given he was injured.

 

[edumfries]

Asking someone their opinion on Ronaldo has for ages been a great way of quickly figuring out if they're worth listening to or not. For their opinions on football at least, but then more recently their opinion on just about anything. If they're over 20 y/o and go to bat for Ronaldo, you can ignore them completely. In that sense, he will be missed.

This is ridiculous believing you are right for your views and judging people by who they value. Its as daft as comparing ones religion and judging them by who they follow.

I'm not Portuguese, but anyone in Portugal would tell you that Ronaldo help kick-start Portugal as a complete footballing country; you see players and normal people from all countries inspired him; Portuguese players worship him because both the Portuguese league & national team would have been progressing much slower if they never had him at all and relying on the likes of Nani and Quaresma as their best players.

I saw Portugal supporter YouTube video yesterday asking if he was dissapointed that Ronaldo held back his country in this world cup - he replied; no because no one talked about how the Portuguese team held back Ronaldo for a decade in his prime playing in the WC.

Ronaldo is one of the top 2-5 players of all time.. Can you imagine what that means to a country of people that has never had a player to that level before? Before people say Eusabio - no I'm sorry Eusabio, Deco, Rui Costa, Bruno Fernandes, Vitinha, Neves and many other Portuguese won't ever reach his level & I don't think Portugal will ever have a player as good as Ronaldo; Portugese fans know this already whilst others do not & wonder why he has such a fanbase when they spend so much time observing a player that has given them so much joy.

Were Portugal fans booing Ronaldo during every WC game for holding his team back whilst only American fans ever celebrated when seeing him for the first time? The vast majority of Portugal love Ronaldo, though I don't know how this world cup changes it but after people forget about this world cup I'm sure things will return back to normal if Ronaldo retires.

You may not like his attitude, but it won't really matter because unfortunately no matter what we do, we are simply not capable of being as successful as him in real life. It's sad but it's true; alot of us are not as successful in life as Ronaldo even if we are much nicer people. That's why some people like his mentality and some people don't.

 

[Irwin99]

Can someone please clarify something for me. Is the whole Ronaldo online fandom very manosphere adjacent?

My 17 year old son and his friends won't hear a bad word about him. And I'm starting to worry that doesn't have much to do with football (at their age, they've only ever watched him play crap)

It’s very odd too as when he was first at United Ronaldo was made fun of as being a bit effeminate- I remember hearing about the United players always joking about his make up kits.

His dedication to work and discipline I guess are traditionally ‘manly’ traits but I don’t know, I’ve never seen him as being the embodiment of masculinity.

 

[Reditus]

anyway hope he is done now. It would be nice to go back to not minding Portugal doing well in tournaments. they have nearly become as bad as England for me in terms of wishing nothing but failure.

 

[SirMonteyne]

Absolutely GOAT-ed club career, top top international career, but a disappointing WC career. I feel like he put himself and his teammates under too much pressure by giving too much weight to the WCs and the Euros for decades. Always giving interviews about how international football is the holy grail of the football etc. They could have easily played like it was just another top club, just like the French team does like they don't give a shit. It’s sad and unbelievable that i can remember only one or two good performances of his in the WC.