Cristiano Ronaldo - Countdown to 1k | 954 currently

As excellent as Ronaldo is, the only madrid player I think is in the top 4 of all time is di stefano. He looked incredible in matches I used to watch on madrid tv. He used to do everything. It looked slower than modern football though. Mad how madrid, whose success is unmatched by any club and are in a league of their own have only one player I regard that highly (ie top 4-5).
 
He was bailed out big time in almost all major finals, pretty anonymous in 3 UCL finals with Real, cheerleading in Euro final against France, and was not even his team's best player in NL finals. These are all facts, you can't rewrite history, he ghosts all the time. He is well below Bale, Ramos when it comes to overall UCL final performances with Real. Also Di Maria who was the MOTM of the finals in 2014 (along with his Ramos' heroics) saved his poor performance in that final as usual. He was just anonymous in those 3 finals. Juventus game was the only exception. And, we all know how it went when he faced Barcelona with United in that UCL final.

He’s played six Champions League finals, one great (vs Juventus), one above average (vs Chelsea), and 4 other finals where he was anonymous.

You can't be considered a GOAT tier clutch player ghosting in most major finals being that regularly bailed out. If your focus is on being clutch as a goal scorer, he's at least a tier below Gerd Muller as Gerd would prefer to star not ghost in major finals.
He scored in every single final except for the Euros (including the club football and international football). He has scored in the FA Cup final, League Cup final and the UCL when he was in Manchester. He scored in Copa Del Rey final and the UCL final with Madrid. I don't think that any footballer ever scored in every major final while being in England and Spain.

He even scored in the UNL final against the reigning European Champions Spain at 40. According to you that's "ghosting".
And as a strong fan of knockout goal stats, you certainly can also mention his out of this world World Cup, Euro knockout records. like 3 goals and 2 assists in 21 knockout games, just remarkable ghosting as usual.
Why are excluding the UNL goals? It only matters when Mendes and Bernardo Silva are MOTM? He scored at 40 against Spain and Germany. His usual "ghosting".
 
He scored in every single final except for the Euros (including the club football and international football). He has scored in the FA Cup final, League Cup final and the UCL when he was in Manchester. He scored in Copa Del Rey final and the UCL final with Madrid. I don't think that any footballer ever scored in every major final while being in England and Spain.
He scored in every single final? I think you began to imagine things because he surely did not score in every final. That he appears once in a while in a final does not mean much when he is ghosting most times as in 4 UCL finals out of 6 where he was anonymous.

Why are excluding the UNL goals? It only matters when Mendes and Bernardo Silva are MOTM? He scored at 40 against Spain and Germany. His usual "ghosting".
Who even cares about the Nations League? It’s a tier-2, made-up competition and even there the MVPs were Bernardo Silva and Nuno Mendes.

On the premier stages, Euros and World Cups, he just ghosts. 3 goals in 21 knockout games. That’s his now legendary legacy. If he’d a half-decent record at major tournament knockouts, you’d never stop reminding people every single day. I find it ironic how Ronaldo fans go full TED Talk mode about UCL knockouts, then all of a sudden become shy the moment you bring up World Cup and Euro ones. the double standards are too wild.

Anyway, Ronaldo seemed to have found his own genius coping solution: calling the World Cup “just a 6-7 game tournament” and claiming it “was never his dream" when in reality he was writing essays about how it was the biggest dream of his career on instagram, twitter right before the end of the last World Cup.
 
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3 goals in 21 international KO matches…..that’s an awful return even for an average striker.
It is, but the 2 assists is probably even more damning, TBH. Take away the billion euro supporting cast that put tap in chances on a plate for him at club level and he appears to be pretty ordinary.
 
Taking a thread off topic
UHe scored in every single final? I think you began to imagine things because he surely did not score in every final. That he appears once in a while in a final does not mean much when he is ghosting most times as in 4 UCL finals out of 6 where he was anonymous.


Who even cares about the Nations League? It’s a tier-2, made-up competition and even there the MVPs were Bernardo Silva and Nuno Mendes.

On the premier stages, Euros and World Cups, he just ghosts. 3 goals in 21 knockout games. That’s his now legendary legacy. If he’d a half-decent record at major tournament knockouts, you’d never stop reminding people every single day. I find it ironic how Ronaldo fans go full TED Talk mode about UCL knockouts, then all of a sudden become shy the moment you bring up World Cup and Euro ones. the double standards are too wild.

Anyway, Ronaldo seemed to have found his own genius coping solution: calling the World Cup “just a 6-7 game tournament” and claiming it “was never his dream" when in reality he was writing essays about how it was the biggest dream of his career on instagram, twitter right before the end of the last World Cup.
*He scored in the final of every single competition that he played in bar Euros.

And you're still trying to convince me (us) that scoring 4 goals in 6 games in the UCL is somehow "bad". No player is perfect and Ronaldo'sbillion euro supporti WC knockout record is poor but he still literally has the best knockout record in the UCL history. And to berate Ronaldo for not winning the World Cup is even more ridiculous because he literally made Portugal relevant and better.

It is, but the 2 assists is probably even more damning, TBH. Take away the billion euro supporting cast that put tap in chances on a plate for him at club level and he appears to be pretty ordinary.
Take away Xavi and Iniesta from the midfield and Messi becomes a ghost in the Champions league, by your logic. Not to mention that PSG became worse when the GOAT came to their team. And the funniest thing is if you remove the penalty goals, Messi has the same amount of non penalty goals as Ronaldo in Euro 2016 or WC 2018.
 
*He scored in the final of every single competition that he played in bar Euros.

And you're still trying to convince me (us) that scoring 4 goals in 6 games in the UCL is somehow "bad". No player is perfect and Ronaldo'sbillion euro supporti WC knockout record is poor but he still literally has the best knockout record in the UCL history. And to berate Ronaldo for not winning the World Cup is even more ridiculous because he literally made Portugal relevant and better.


Take away Xavi and Iniesta from the midfield and Messi becomes a ghost in the Champions league, by your logic. Not to mention that PSG became worse when the GOAT came to their team. And the funniest thing is if you remove the penalty goals, Messi has the same amount of non penalty goals as Ronaldo in Euro 2016 or WC 2018.
So that settles it. It's the Ronaldo fan boys polluting the thread with Messi stuff
 
*He scored in the final of every single competition that he played in bar Euros.

And you're still trying to convince me (us) that scoring 4 goals in 6 games in the UCL is somehow "bad". No player is perfect and Ronaldo'sbillion euro supporti WC knockout record is poor but he still literally has the best knockout record in the UCL history. And to berate Ronaldo for not winning the World Cup is even more ridiculous because he literally made Portugal relevant and better.


Take away Xavi and Iniesta from the midfield and Messi becomes a ghost in the Champions league, by your logic. Not to mention that PSG became worse when the GOAT came to their team. And the funniest thing is if you remove the penalty goals, Messi has the same amount of non penalty goals as Ronaldo in Euro 2016 or WC 2018.

Mods how about that last threadmark?
 
*He scored in the final of every single competition that he played in bar Euros.

And you're still trying to convince me (us) that scoring 4 goals in 6 games in the UCL is somehow "bad". No player is perfect and Ronaldo'sbillion euro supporti WC knockout record is poor but he still literally has the best knockout record in the UCL history. And to berate Ronaldo for not winning the World Cup is even more ridiculous because he literally made Portugal relevant and better.


Take away Xavi and Iniesta from the midfield and Messi becomes a ghost in the Champions league, by your logic. Not to mention that PSG became worse when the GOAT came to their team. And the funniest thing is if you remove the penalty goals, Messi has the same amount of non penalty goals as Ronaldo in Euro 2016 or WC 2018.
This is a weak response. Ronaldo has scored 3 goals and registered 2 assists in 21 knockout matches in the Euros and the World Cup. 0 and 0 in the WC alone. It is extremely poor. Try and deal with that fact without mentioning any other player.
 
The fanboys just can’t keep the GOAT name out of this thread.
 
As excellent as Ronaldo is, the only madrid player I think is in the top 4 of all time is di stefano. He looked incredible in matches I used to watch on madrid tv. He used to do everything. It looked slower than modern football though. Mad how madrid, whose success is unmatched by any club and are in a league of their own have only one player I regard that highly (ie top 4-5).

Historically regarding Madrid (and even beyond Real) Alfredo is untocheable.

Yet him, Puskas and in recent years Cryuff and mostly Platini have been sadly too many times kind of forgotten.

I've just recall too that in the beggining of the 2000's a lot of people put Zizou above evryone too, I never agreed with such (Platini fan for one), but it's quite incredible to rememeber those days and how high was his consideration, even if course today he still is an all time icon and preffererd as his bets for quite a number of people.

Back to Alfredo in many ways with the cards he was dealed, he was almost bullet proof if we analyzed in deep his carreer.

Anyway, it's the Cristiano thread. Maybe Alfredo deserves his thread to not derrail this one.
 
My guess is he'll retire after the World Cup. He's got enough money and no reason to be in Saudi after it's done.
 
My guess is he'll retire after the World Cup. He's got enough money and no reason to be in Saudi after it's done.

Cristiano will seek those 1000 no matter what, he has a chance to win the WC too and if he does it? who knows what unlocks within him to maybe even prolongue his carreer. Physically he can still pull it out, he's fine motor skils seems the one more affected in these last years, but if he finds a team that puts the ball with advantage at times or spaces to blast it from diatnce, he can still play till beyond 40.
 
Benzema and Bale scored a grand total of 1 goal combined in 2015-16 and 16-17 in the knockout stages while Ronaldo scored 16. In fact the only goal that Bale scored in three peat era was in the final against Liverpool. That says it all, doesn't it.

You do realize that no player has scored more goals in the UCL finals than Ronaldo? You did write a lot of rubbish again. He was man of the match in 2017 against and was excellent in 2008. He scored an opening header, had 8 successful dribbles (which was a record at that time) and set up the best chance for Utd in that match where Cech had a double save.

And you can't be "bailed out" when you score more than a goal per match in the knockout matches. (30 goals in 28 matches for Madrid). Madrid wouldn't be even in the final in 2016 if Ronaldo didn't bail them out against Wolfsburg.
I bet they teed him up enough his goals though right? Modric and co included. You seem insistent on only focussing on goals, and yet you’re somewhat ironically, completely comfortable overlooking the fact that if Ronaldo’s teammates hadn’t been quite proficient at scoring in the pressure finals, he wouldn’t get the big shiny thing and the medal at the end of the Euro’s, and 3 of his 4 CL successes with Madrid.
With the greatest respect mate, you’re regularly angered by people posting negative thoughts and opinions about Ronnie and go to the effort to trawl through their posts to see how often they do so. I’m not sure it’s him that needs to grow up!
 
Would be fitting to bow out with the only trophy he hasn't won - The World Cup. Part of me hopes he does it.
 
At least I can watch the next Portugal matches without that cnut stinking up the place.
 
Red card should make no difference, he might aswell have not even been on the pitch for all he contributed.
 
At his age it was nothing more than a delayed reaction of him swatting a wasp away in September.
 
Should have been a red card to the Irishman. C-Ron could have shattered his elbow there!
Before the world went woke, assaulting an irishman on a Thursday evening was considered sophisticated.