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surf said:
What you say may be true but it's hard to believe that a player as good as Ronaldo did not improve Juve. He was Serie A player of the season twice in his 3 years there. Perhaps there were other factors at work in the team's UCL performances.
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No. It is called MVP and he got it once (18/19). Dybala got it the other time Juve won the league (19/20)… Their DC options and their midfield were much weaker when Ronaldo came compared to the ones that took them to UCL finals the years before. Pogba-Prilo-Marchisio-Vidal in 2015 and Marchisio-khedira-Pjanic in 2017…

After that they had a decent enough team to challenge for the league but not enough to go toe to toe with Europe’s best.
 
mertens said:
Juve won 7 Serie As in a row before him and played 2 UCL finals in 3 years before him. He went to a top UCL contender and went out to 10-man Porto, Lyon and Ajax in 3 years..
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That's only if you ignore the dreadful Juve transfer policy that Juve has had since that time. They lost the likes of Tevez, Pirlo, Pogba etc. They were good enough to challenge for Serie a titles but not good enough to challenge for the UCL.

In 18-19 he scored a hattrick against Atletico after trailing behind 2-0 and he scored both goals for Juve (home and away) and in the quarters against Ajax. The next season he scored for Juve against Lyon twice. So you can't say that he wasn't delivering for Juve in the UCL or Serie A.
mertens said:
Also Real with Benzema, Modric, Kroos continued to show their historical magic in UCL winning it twice after him in 5 years..
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None of these players carried Madrid in those title winning UCL campaigns like Ronaldo did. Modric and Kroos contributed a lot don't get me wrong but it was Ronaldo who took them to the next level. They struggled for a while after he left Madrid but then Benzema stepped in.

Madrid weren't a team of bums and you need a lot of world class players around you to win the UCL but Ronaldo was always the go-to guy for Madrid in those years. That's why Messi struggled in Europe when Xavi and Iniesta left Barca. He failed to do anything singificant with that PSG superteam as well. But I don't see the narratives that he "ruined" PSG.
mertens said:
United didn't need carrying until he showed up and ruined everything.

They finished 2nd in Premier League the year before he joined and 3rd the year after he left.. They played FA Cup final & semis,. With him, lost to mighty Middlesborough..
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Here you go again with your "Ronaldo ruining clubs" narrative. Where are Ole and Ten Hag today? Getting sacked in Turkish league after 6 months and getting sacked after 2 matches in Bundesliga. We finished also 8th and 15th in the League after he left. Maybe Amorim can turn things around but it still looks pretty grim. It wasn't Ronaldo who "ruined" Utd. It was Ed Woodward, the Glazers and coaches like ETH who spent 600 million £ on the players like Antony, Onana, Hojlund and Weghorst.

The INEOs are trying to fix this broken mess of a club but it's not going to take a single year to do so. It's why ETH was sacked after 2 matches in Germany. It's because his transfers were disastrous and he fell out with the whole Leverkusen board for feck sake.

Guv77 said:
It definitely takes a certain kind, just read through the last few pages and you will get your answer.
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Ronaldo was pretty entertaining in his Man Utd and early Madrid days honestly. He drastically changed his playstyle in his 30s to prolong his career.
 
KingEric04 said:
Maybe you should see what some ex United players have to say about Ronaldo before commenting this kind of garbage:

Roy Keane on Ronaldo:

“His desire - he’s 37 and even his goal record for United is fantastic.
“Everything about him when he first came to United at 17, he had that hunger, that desire. I can’t speak highly enough of him.

Ryan Giggs on Ronaldo: He’s the best. I remember sprinting across in one game in the winter and I’ve took Cristiano out and the manager has gone mad. I’ve gone, ‘it’s a tackle gaffer,’ and he’s gone, ‘I know yeah but just take care. He’s a special player.”

Bryan Robson on Ronaldo: It beggars belief that people are blaming Cristiano Ronaldo. Heresy,” he said. “Where would we be now without his genius?
"I've not felt a buzz like this since Eric arrived". Robson describing Ronaldo's return to Utd.

Berbatov on Ronaldo:
"Everything he achieved, he deserved and he’s a great example for every young player coming through to follow. Even his body, he worked for it."

These words are coming from Robson and Keane, our two greatest captains in history. Enough said.
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So Giggs the serial woman abuser and fecker of his brother's wife has nice things to say about Ronaldo the rapist. That changes everything
 
MiceOnMeth said:
So Giggs the serial woman abuser and fecker of his brother's wife has nice things to say about Ronaldo the rapist. That changes everything
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Hopefully you're beginning to understand how the thread has grown to 237 pages now, having contributed to it yourself pretty regularly!
 
steffyr2 said:
Again, iirc, the year that Ronaldo was here, there was a whole lot of massive ETH fans who thought having a goal scorer like Ronaldo was just old school. Just like De Gea was just old school.

Utd finished 3rd that year, but ETH was meant for bigger things, Redcafe thought.

Redcafe was wrong.
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Utd finished 6th that season. Finished 3rd the year they binned him off. (The season he played like shit was given far more football than he deserved based on performances, still cried over it then gave an incredibly unprofessional interview with scumbag Piers Morgan).

I wouldn't so boldly claim anyone was wrong when you can't get the basic facts right.
 
Ronaldo mark ii was a worse signing for the overall team and club than Sancho or Antony. Change my mind!
 
MiceOnMeth said:
So Giggs the serial woman abuser and fecker of his brother's wife has nice things to say about Ronaldo the rapist. That changes everything
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So you're just gonna ignore what Robson, Keane or Ferdinand had to say about him and just focus solely on Giggs?! And you're gonna call someone a "rapist" even though all of the charges against him were dropped?!

MiceOnMeth said:
Ronaldo mark ii was a worse signing for the overall team and club than Sancho or Antony. Change my mind!
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Someone is desperate for attention :lol: !
 
MiceOnMeth said:
Amazing how such an unlikeable wankstain has 236 pages of discussion

The adoration he has from millions perplexes me
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I would say read the last few pages and it'll give you an idea how many of the posts are actually from people who hate him to an exaggerated level every bit as much as those you say adore him.

However, given that you've added four posts of silly insults or abuse about him in those pages yourself then I think you already know that.

The levels of venomous hatred he gets is just as perplexing as the levels of adoration - but both sides only scoff at the extreme of the other side and don't realise they're just as bad themselves.
 
His grammar is really bad for someone who lived in england for 9 years, he speaks like Tarzan
 
Marwood said:
22/23 Rashford went a scoring run for 8 week and with that spell basically saved our goalscoring that season.

But he was there 21/22 with Ronaldo and got 4 league goals.

Before we blame Ronaldo for that he got 7 and 4 in 23/24 and 24/25.

Hojlund and Garnacho got 17 league goals between them 23/24. Obviously we're talking 21/22 when they weren't around.
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No one could really know how other players would've performed without Ronaldo there or which ones could've stepped up.

The fact is that in the two seasons before and after his arrival, United's scoring wasn't worse and was significantly better under Ole without him.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
Undisputed GOAT in my eyes. Messi is a great player but nowhere near as electric.
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I'd say the other way around is true. Cristiano scoring two vs Armenia doesn’t change the fact that his allround play has never been even half as good as Messi's at any point in his career.
 
Idxomer said:
No one could really know how other players would've performed without Ronaldo there or which ones could've stepped up.

The fact is that in the two seasons before and after his arrival, United's scoring wasn't worse and was significantly better under Ole without him.
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Well no we don't know for sure but its a bit of a cop out to say we couldn't even hazard a guess. Or include goals scored from two seasons later when new players had come in.

As I said Martial has only scored 19 goals across the last 5 seasons. He only scored 4 the season before Ronaldo.

So I think we can safely say he wouldn't have stepped up. Rashford was there. He got 4.
 
KingEric04 said:
That's only if you ignore the dreadful Juve transfer policy that Juve has had since that time. They lost the likes of Tevez, Pirlo, Pogba etc. They were good enough to challenge for Serie a titles but not good enough to challenge for the UCL.

In 18-19 he scored a hattrick against Atletico after trailing behind 2-0 and he scored both goals for Juve (home and away) and in the quarters against Ajax. The next season he scored for Juve against Lyon twice. So you can't say that he wasn't delivering for Juve in the UCL or Serie A.

None of these players carried Madrid in those title winning UCL campaigns like Ronaldo did. Modric and Kroos contributed a lot don't get me wrong but it was Ronaldo who took them to the next level. They struggled for a while after he left Madrid but then Benzema stepped in.

Madrid weren't a team of bums and you need a lot of world class players around you to win the UCL but Ronaldo was always the go-to guy for Madrid in those years. That's why Messi struggled in Europe when Xavi and Iniesta left Barca. He failed to do anything singificant with that PSG superteam as well. But I don't see the narratives that he "ruined" PSG.

Here you go again with your "Ronaldo ruining clubs" narrative. Where are Ole and Ten Hag today? Getting sacked in Turkish league after 6 months and getting sacked after 2 matches in Bundesliga. We finished also 8th and 15th in the League after he left. Maybe Amorim can turn things around but it still looks pretty grim. It wasn't Ronaldo who "ruined" Utd. It was Ed Woodward, the Glazers and coaches like ETH who spent 600 million £ on the players like Antony, Onana, Hojlund and Weghorst.

The INEOs are trying to fix this broken mess of a club but it's not going to take a single year to do so. It's why ETH was sacked after 2 matches in Germany. It's because his transfers were disastrous and he fell out with the whole Leverkusen board for feck sake.


Ronaldo was pretty entertaining in his Man Utd and early Madrid days honestly. He drastically changed his playstyle in his 30s to prolong his career.
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You just can't leave Messi out, nope?
...you live in lalaland if you think that there isn't since day one agendas against the little fella, perhaps even more annoying and way less justified (as a footballers and his atributes).
 
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Marwood said:
Well no we don't know for sure but its a bit of a cop out to say we couldn't even hazard a guess. Or include goals scored from two seasons later when new players had come in.

As I said Martial has only scored 19 goals across the last 5 seasons. He only scored 4 the season before Ronaldo.

So I think we can safely say he wouldn't have stepped up. Rashford was there. He got 4.
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It's not a cop out because it's almost impossible to know how players will react in completely different situations. Back in 2021, no one could have predicted that Rashford would score 30 goals in a season playing half of it as a striker and drop dramatically afterward.

Anyway, we're talking about 15 non-penalty goals in the league. It's not like he was getting Haaland numbers. You don't even need anyone to step up that much, a few more goals from each of the other forwards will get you to that number. I'm not arguing that the team would've been much better without him. I think we were coming to the end of the road with Ole either way.
 
Disgraceful trash on here. Honestly question whether some of the participants here are United fans or just an internet trolls.
 
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Back on topic to Ronaldo. Please take further Ronaldo-Messi posts to the appropriate thread.
 
Ted Lasso said:
Disgraceful trash on here. Honestly question whether some of the participants here are United fans or just an internet trolls.
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:lol: keep championing someone who gave his best years to a European rival and helped turn them into the undisputed biggest club in the world

Madrid and football legend, not a united legend. feck him.
 
Raoul said:
Where are we after Armenia 944 ? Sounds like he could conceivably hit 1000 during the WC.
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942. 1000 during the WC would be a stretch, I think he can do it late 2026 or early to mid 2027.
 
1000 confirmed goals is really something. I don't care who he's scored them against. It's just A LOT.
 
MiceOnMeth said:
:lol: keep championing someone who gave his best years to a European rival and helped turn them into the undisputed biggest club in the world

Madrid and football legend, not a united legend. feck him.
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Even without those CLs, Real would be a bigger european club than us. Come on now
 
MiceOnMeth said:
:lol: keep championing someone who gave his best years to a European rival and helped turn them into the undisputed biggest club in the world

Madrid and football legend, not a united legend. feck him.
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But you just can't seem to let go and stop talking about him.
 
MiceOnMeth said:
:lol: keep championing someone who gave his best years to a European rival and helped turn them into the undisputed biggest club in the world

Madrid and football legend, not a united legend. feck him.
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Hey guess what champ, in the last few pages the same people on here are denigrating several other United Legends.

Disgraceful.
 
I reckon “1000” is worth about a billion in itself*. Bet the advertising, marketing and PR is already worked up and green lit.

As a modern day feat, it’s a completely new USP and will be sold as such. Even in old lore, the more ignorant to Pele’s brilliance have “1000 goals” precede; in modern day parlance, social media will absolutely explode if Homelander achieves the feat.



*flawless quick maths.
 
Fortitude said:
I reckon “1000” is worth about a billion in itself*. Bet the advertising, marketing and PR is already worked up and green lit.

As a modern day feat, it’s a completely new USP and will be sold as such. Even in old lore, the more ignorant to Pele’s brilliance have “1000 goals” precede; in modern day parlance, social media will absolutely explode if Homelander achieves the feat.



*flawless quick maths.
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A victory for grown men living in their mother’s basements everywhere.
 
MiceOnMeth said:
:lol: keep championing someone who gave his best years to a European rival and helped turn them into the undisputed biggest club in the world

Madrid and football legend, not a united legend. feck him.
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Rolled out the "I'm a slave" classic to leave the club as well. What a legend.
 
KingEric04 said:
So you're just gonna ignore what Robson, Keane or Ferdinand had to say about him and just focus solely on Giggs?! And you're gonna call someone a "rapist" even though all of the charges against him were dropped?!


Someone is desperate for attention :lol: !
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I get it you love Ronaldo and will defend him to the bitter end, which is perfectly fine. But considering what the club just went through a couple years ago with another player and what's out in the public domain regarding Ronaldo's case, this one you might just want to concede.
 
Raoul said:
Where are we after Armenia 944 ? Sounds like he could conceivably hit 1000 during the WC.
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Give him enough games against Luxembourg, Armenia, Lichenstein, San Marino and co, and in combination with the Saudi League, I think he can get there even earlier than the World Cup, which hopefully is enough to make him retire from the national team. I really like Portugal and would love them to win something but it just feels impossible with having to carry this guy in the bigger matches where he constantly disappears for Portugal.
 
wr8_utd said:
Give him enough games against Luxembourg, Armenia, Lichenstein, San Marino and co, and in combination with the Saudi League, I think he can get there even earlier than the World Cup, which hopefully is enough to make him retire from the national team. I really like Portugal and would love them to win something but it just feels impossible with having to carry this guy in the bigger matches where he constantly disappears for Portugal.
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I don't think anyone expects them to win it, but there's no one remotely more reliable to score for them at the moment so he's going to continue playing until he retires. But to your earlier point, I agree that he could conceivably get there before or during the WC. The obvious fairy tale scenario that won't happen is they reach the final and he scores #1000 as the winner.
 
wr8_utd said:
Give him enough games against Luxembourg, Armenia, Lichenstein, San Marino and co, and in combination with the Saudi League, I think he can get there even earlier than the World Cup, which hopefully is enough to make him retire from the national team. I really like Portugal and would love them to win something but it just feels impossible with having to carry this guy in the bigger matches where he constantly disappears for Portugal.
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He is going to have a double header vs Ireland

I fully expect him to complete the 1000 goals on those games alone
 
MiceOnMeth said:
Ronaldo mark ii was a worse signing for the overall team and club than Sancho or Antony. Change my mind!
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A fair argument, sliding doors moment that ended up with Ole being sacked and didn't help Sancho's development here either. Ronaldo and Sanchez stand out as two players who ruined any semblance of balance on the wage bill and added considerable toxicity to proceedings. Paid just under £50m to fall down the league and end up sacking him in 14 months in disgrace.
 
wr8_utd said:
Give him enough games against Luxembourg, Armenia, Lichenstein, San Marino and co, and in combination with the Saudi League, I think he can get there even earlier than the World Cup, which hopefully is enough to make him retire from the national team. I really like Portugal and would love them to win something but it just feels impossible with having to carry this guy in the bigger matches where he constantly disappears for Portugal.
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He won't play many games against those kinds of teams - less so than most players get actually.

Because Portugal won the Nations League competing against all the other strongest teams from the top tier (for the second time), they are in a group of just 4 teams for World Cup qualifying - half the groups have 5 teams in it, the 5th team being the likes of San Marino, Gibraltar, Andorra, etc.

So Portugal don't have a team from the lowest pot in their group - because they were too busy beating Germany and Spain to win the Nations League.
 
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