Cristiano Ronaldo - Countdown to 1k

It's not brought up but surely their international spat at 2006's world cup affected their relationship.
I think they've both came out and said it didn't, and the performances on the pitch after that would back that up.
 
Wonder if Ronaldo will refuse to shake Rooney’s hand?

He has form :lol:
 
He’s the reason they won’t win the World Cup ( and Martinez).
That statement is just diabolical. Ronaldo scored 14 goals and had 2 assists in his last 15 games for Portugal. If he stopped scoring and was just poor on the pitch, I would understand your sentiment.
 
It's all about the quality of the opposition.
He scored against the likes of Spain, Croatia and Germany during that time period which are all top teams. Denmark, Hungary and Poland are solid teams as well. He was hardly "farming" against the weak opposition with the exception of Ireland and Armenia.

Haaland and Mbappe are also scoring a lot of goals at the moment and they are hardly facing a much tougher opposition than Portugal at the moment. Ronaldo was also a top scorer at the Nations League at 40 btw.

And it's not like Portugal has the likes of Haaland or Kane at their disposal at no.9. If you benched Ronaldo, you would play Gonzalo Ramos who is a bench warmer for PSG.
 
Has his penalty scoring rate gotten worse?
Wasn't it something like 87,86 or thereabouts?
 
He scored against the likes of Spain, Croatia and Germany during that time period which are all top teams. Denmark, Hungary and Poland are solid teams as well. He was hardly "farming" against the weak opposition with the exception of Ireland and Armenia.

Haaland and Mbappe are also scoring a lot of goals at the moment and they are hardly facing a much tougher opposition than Portugal at the moment. Ronaldo was also a top scorer at the Nations League at 40 btw.

And it's not like Portugal has the likes of Haaland or Kane at their disposal at no.9. If you benched Ronaldo, you would play Gonzalo Ramos who is a bench warmer for PSG.
He’s ridiculously limited these days. Yeh he’ll score when he’s fed chances but he’s an overall detriment to the team. Can’t press, can’t play with his back to goal, slow. You can’t just be a finisher and nothing else.
 
Fair enough he wants his 1000 goals and that'd be it. Maybe retirement in 2 years.
 
He’s the reason they won’t win the World Cup ( and Martinez)
This. I don't think they win it with or without Ronaldo, but they'd definitely have a better shot without him and with a manager that isn't spineless.
 
He’s ridiculously limited these days. Yeh he’ll score when he’s fed chances but he’s an overall detriment to the team. Can’t press, can’t play with his back to goal, slow. You can’t just be a finisher and nothing else.
He's 40 and he can't play like when he was 27 or 28. Only Modric is going strong at Ronaldo's age. He's there to score goals and be a goal poacher. Scoring goals is one of the hardest things in football. And you seriously underestimate his killer instinct that he still has for goals.

If you watched Portugal's game against Spain in NL final, you would have seen that Ronaldo scored an equalizer and that was practically his only chance in the game. It doesn't take him a lot to score and a lot of goals that he scored were crucial. A winner against Germany, an equalizer against Spain, a winner against Hungary etc.
 
Has his penalty scoring rate gotten worse?
Wasn't it something like 87,86 or thereabouts?
He's missed so many, including in huge World Cup games. But that's probably a function of the fact that he has taken so many.
 
He's 40 and he can't play like when he was 27 or 28. Only Modric is going strong at Ronaldo's age. He's there to score goals and be a goal poacher. Scoring goals is one of the hardest things in football. And you seriously underestimate his killer instinct that he still has for goals.

If you watched Portugal's game against Spain in NL final, you would have seen that Ronaldo scored an equalizer and that was practically his only chance in the game. It doesn't take him a lot to score and a lot of goals that he scored were crucial. A winner against Germany, an equalizer against Spain, a winner against Hungary etc.
Exactly, he’s 40.
You can’t just be a goalscorer when you get great service and nothing else these days. Any poacher has other facets to their game, namely a physical presence and hold up play.

Just because he scores goals doesn’t mean he isn’t holding the team back, that’s an incredibly simplistic view of football. Look at the teams he’s played for since he became a number 9 - Juve went from winning the league every year to top 4 challengers and couldn’t wait to bin him, we went from 2nd to an absolute car crash… and couldn’t wait to bin him. Even his Saudi team don’t seem to win anything. But he’s always banged the goals in. Now I’m not saying all of the above is on him, but doesn’t that show you that an individual player scoring lots of goals doesn’t always correlate as a net benefit to a football team?

He’s now a one dimensional player who forces his team to play to his style so he can score goals, which he does - but then his teams seem to fail at the same time. That’s not a coincidence.

At best he’s a squad player for them that they throw on when they desperately need a goal. Of course his ego wouldn’t allow that though and it’d be an absolute shit show of drama.
 
Exactly, he’s 40.
You can’t just be a goalscorer when you get great service and nothing else these days. Any poacher has other facets to their game, namely a physical presence and hold up play.

Just because he scores goals doesn’t mean he isn’t holding the team back, that’s an incredibly simplistic view of football. Look at the teams he’s played for since he became a number 9 - Juve went from winning the league every year to top 4 challengers and couldn’t wait to bin him, we went from 2nd to an absolute car crash… and couldn’t wait to bin him. Even his Saudi team don’t seem to win anything. But he’s always banged the goals in. Now I’m not saying all of the above is on him, but doesn’t that show you that an individual player scoring lots of goals doesn’t always correlate as a net benefit to a football team?

He’s now a one dimensional player who forces his team to play to his style so he can score goals, which he does - but then his teams seem to fail at the same time. That’s not a coincidence.

At best he’s a squad player for them that they throw on when they desperately need a goal. Of course his ego wouldn’t allow that though and it’d be an absolute shit show of drama.
It seems like you are blaming him for everything in his post Madrid career. Correlation does not equal causation. And you seem to be spewing a lot of myths without any proof. He still won 2 titles in 3 years for Juve and you can't continue winning forever. Juve was already on huge decline when he arrived there and that team was a far cry from that 2015 team. Tevez left, Pogba left, Pirlo retired and they had an extremely poor recruiting strategy.

Someone really thought that it was a good idea to buy Ramsey who flopped badly there. Juve hasn't been a serious title challenger since he left Utd and they barely reached top 4 last season. After Ole was sacked by Utd, he was a free agent for 4 years and then only lasted 6 months in Turkey. We've been in a far worse position since he left Utd as well.

We did finish 3rd with ETH but then finished 8th and 15th which was worse than 6th placed finish with Ronaldo. In Saudi, Al Nassr haven't won a league title since 2018 and Al Nassr isn't even the most successful club in Saudi Arabia. They finished 2nd twice and 3rd once with Ronaldo which was better than in three seasons before Ronaldo joined.

Ronaldo was benched in the knockout stages of 2022 WC and they couldn't even defeat Morocco. So your whole premise is simply wrong. I understand what you are trying to say but it's simply a false premise. Why is Bruno not called a "problem" when we seem to be playing worse under him despite him being brilliant. Why isn't Messi blamed for PSG's failures in the UCL? PSG was doing objectively better before and after Messi joined and left PSG but I don't see that narrative going around.

He's 40 and you can't expect him to be 2008 Ronaldo or whatever. And I doubt that Portugal is going to be a lot better team if Gonzalo Ramos starts ahead of Ronaldo. He's a decent striker but nothing spectacular. 11 goals in Ligue 1 is okayish at best. If you had a Haaland and Kane equivalent in Portugal, of course you would start them ahead of Ronaldo, but this version of Ronaldo is still more useful to the team than Gonzalo Ramos. It's fine if you disagree with my take here but Portugal is simply lacking any world class number 9 at the moment.
 
Exactly, he’s 40.
You can’t just be a goalscorer when you get great service and nothing else these days. Any poacher has other facets to their game, namely a physical presence and hold up play.

Just because he scores goals doesn’t mean he isn’t holding the team back, that’s an incredibly simplistic view of football. Look at the teams he’s played for since he became a number 9 - Juve went from winning the league every year to top 4 challengers and couldn’t wait to bin him, we went from 2nd to an absolute car crash… and couldn’t wait to bin him. Even his Saudi team don’t seem to win anything. But he’s always banged the goals in. Now I’m not saying all of the above is on him, but doesn’t that show you that an individual player scoring lots of goals doesn’t always correlate as a net benefit to a football team?

He’s now a one dimensional player who forces his team to play to his style so he can score goals, which he does - but then his teams seem to fail at the same time. That’s not a coincidence.

At best he’s a squad player for them that they throw on when they desperately need a goal. Of course his ego wouldn’t allow that though and it’d be an absolute shit show of drama.
It’s the fact the Portuguese side are always looking for him, all the time, because they all feel obligated to help him in his quest for more goals. That’s what it is that’ll kill them when they come up against stronger sides. That’ll be the biggest difference, one side will have a common goal - to win by any means, the other sides common goal is to feed the ego of one man. We saw it at the Euros with the number of times players pass up a better option in favour of looking for him.
 
People will moan about him no matter what. As long as he scores goals he will be in that team. Maybe its wrong , maybe not.
 
People will moan about him no matter what. As long as he scores goals he will be in that team. Maybe its wrong , maybe not.
I heard it’s in his contract that if he dies before he turns 50, Portugal have to “Weekend at Bernie’s him and all their players must either aim crosses and shots to hit him on the way in, or move his limbs with their hands to give him tap ins. He also has to still “take” all their penalties.
 
I heard it’s in his contract that if he dies before he turns 50, Portugal have to “Weekend at Bernie’s him and all their players must either aim crosses and shots to hit him on the way in, or move his limbs with their hands to give him tap ins. He also has to still “take” all their penalties.
I can just imagine the Portuguese team carting him around the pitch with a huge pair of black sunglasses on.
 
People will moan about him no matter what. As long as he scores goals he will be in that team. Maybe its wrong , maybe not.
I mean, he wouldn't be if they had a manager with any balls who could say "thank you for your service, but we're going in a different direction now." Martinez is not that guy though. His approach is just to try and feed Ronaldo's ego. It will end in disaster, as always.
 
He shouldn’t be playing 90min plus he doesn’t defend.
Against big teams it will be our downfall.
 
Exactly, he’s 40.
You can’t just be a goalscorer when you get great service and nothing else these days. Any poacher has other facets to their game, namely a physical presence and hold up play.

Just because he scores goals doesn’t mean he isn’t holding the team back, that’s an incredibly simplistic view of football. Look at the teams he’s played for since he became a number 9 - Juve went from winning the league every year to top 4 challengers and couldn’t wait to bin him, we went from 2nd to an absolute car crash… and couldn’t wait to bin him. Even his Saudi team don’t seem to win anything. But he’s always banged the goals in. Now I’m not saying all of the above is on him, but doesn’t that show you that an individual player scoring lots of goals doesn’t always correlate as a net benefit to a football team?

He’s now a one dimensional player who forces his team to play to his style so he can score goals, which he does - but then his teams seem to fail at the same time. That’s not a coincidence.

At best he’s a squad player for them that they throw on when they desperately need a goal. Of course his ego wouldn’t allow that though and it’d be an absolute shit show of drama.
Ronaldo at Juve is massively underrated. They were already on the decline due to an aging core of players and failure to replace the midfielders that left. If they hadn't signed Ronaldo and Napoli had kept their pace from the previous years, Napoli would have won the next two titles.
 
It seems like you are blaming him for everything in his post Madrid career. Correlation does not equal causation. And you seem to be spewing a lot of myths without any proof. He still won 2 titles in 3 years for Juve and you can't continue winning forever. Juve was already on huge decline when he arrived there and that team was a far cry from that 2015 team. Tevez left, Pogba left, Pirlo retired and they had an extremely poor recruiting strategy.
Hugely declining Juve won 7 Serie As in a row and played 2 UCL finals in 3 years before he arrived :lol:
We did finish 3rd with ETH but then finished 8th and 15th which was worse than 6th placed finish with Ronaldo. In Saudi, Al Nassr haven't won a league title since 2018 and Al Nassr isn't even the most successful club in Saudi Arabia. They finished 2nd twice and 3rd once with Ronaldo which was better than in three seasons before Ronaldo joined.
Meanwhile he was busy with breaking rejection records in Europe. At least, United won Carabao Cup, FA Cup and played a final in Europa League.

Ronaldo was benched in the knockout stages of 2022 WC and they couldn't even defeat Morocco. So your whole premise is simply wrong. I understand what you are trying to say but it's simply a false premise.
He was benched because his form was beyond terrible.. 1 goal in 10 games for United, fired from United not to mention his now traditional ghosting habits in WC knockout stages. Goncalo Ramos did in a single WC knockout game scoring a hat-trick something he couldn't do in 5 WCs.

Also funny that you are talking about Morocco game, you are aware Ronaldo the savior played for 40 minutes in that game, right? and as usual was useless in another WC knockout game.
Why isn't Messi blamed for PSG's failures in the UCL? PSG was doing objectively better before and after Messi joined and left PSG but I don't see that narrative going around.
such an objective take on Messi as usual:lol:

Imagine not being aware that PSG lost the league right before Messi arrived to mighty Lille and won only 3 times out of 5 in 5 years before Messi unlike Juve that won 7 in a row before the unfortunate transfer happened..