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Think they're wasting him. Should try for more progressive approach to get full use of his goals.
 

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How long can he keep it up for I wonder? If Quagliarella can be leading scorer at 36 there's no reason why Ronnie can't keep banging them in for another few seasons. Maybe he'll just never stop.
 

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'I would love Manchester United to sign Cristiano Ronaldo... he would slot right back in': Jesse Lingard calls on his side to sign Juventus star as he arrives for training with team-mates

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ls-Man-Utd-sign-Ronaldo-arrives-training.html

Is it time for Ronaldo to leave Italy having added the Serie A title to his bulging collection!? I think he would be available.. and coming back to OT the transfer fee and wages will pay for themselves with marketing and Woodward signing sponsorship deals.

With Ole at the wheel, and having played with Ronaldo.. is it more likely than ever Ronaldo to come "home"? let's bring the Old Wiley Fox back..

I think this is a transfer story on the cusp of exploding in the next few months.. maybe the transfer SAGA of the summer!

He's coming home lads!
 

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'I would love Manchester United to sign Cristiano Ronaldo... he would slot right back in': Jesse Lingard calls on his side to sign Juventus star as he arrives for training with team-mates

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ls-Man-Utd-sign-Ronaldo-arrives-training.html

Is it time for Ronaldo to leave Italy having added the Serie A title to his bulging collection!? I think he would be available.. and coming back to OT the transfer fee and wages will pay for themselves with marketing and Woodward signing sponsorship deals.

With Ole at the wheel, and having played with Ronaldo.. is it more likely than ever Ronaldo to come "home"? let's bring the Old Wiley Fox back..

I think this is a transfer story on the cusp of exploding in the next few months.. maybe the transfer SAGA of the summer!

He's coming home lads!
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Not going to happen though
 

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You see something remarkable about his mentality, the season is over, despite be a local derby its pretty much a pointless game, but you could feel he was desperate to score there and not give up the first defeat in the league with him in the pitch.
 

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Incredible that despite receiving scrap, poverty service from his teammates all year; he’s still managed to amass 28 goals in all competitions this season. He’d probably be having another 50+ goal season if he were anywhere else.
 

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Juve should get someone more attacking than Allegri in, its like having a Ferrari and barely pushing it.
 

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He's gotten Allegri sacked with his failure to inspire Juve this season. Worst season of Allegri's tenure and maybe even the worst since Conte took over in 2011.
 

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Incredible that despite receiving scrap, poverty service from his teammates all year; he’s still managed to amass 28 goals in all competitions this season. He’d probably be having another 50+ goal season if he were anywhere else.
28 goals for one of the greatest goalscorers of all time, in a one team league is incredible?
In the league he's been outscored and outperformed by 36 year old Fabio, who plays for a worse team. Fabio has contributed 45% of his teams goals, Cristiano only 30%. Not great season for Cristiano to write home about.
 

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Barcelona fans are something else, it's incredible how relentless it is as a colective. The league has been won for 5 months, he went more than 2 months without playing a league game. Could have scored 50 instead of 30, wouldn't matter at all. Instead of winning by 15 points they win it by 20... Juve lost 6 points in the first 27 games and then lost 11 in the last 9, they blatantly stopped giving a shit.

If the next manager is an attacking one, his numers will improve even if he gets worse with age. That doesn't matter though, he has 4 years to win a Champions League title and the first chance is gone along with a good manager in Allegri. That's what matters. As long as he keeps performing at the same level in the CL knockouts they'll have great odds every year regardless of what's happening at the club.

Would help if every other key player in the team didn't manage to get either injured or suspended for at least a couple of those matches though. If Ramos/Modric/Benzema/Marcelo were constantly out of those matches, Madrid wouldn't have won any of their last 4 CL titles either.
 

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Just a coincidence that Dybala went from 22 goals to 5 this season?
Not at all. Juve resorted to aiming the ball at Ronaldo's head all season, obviously Dybala would suffer.

Ronaldo didn't make Allegri change tactics though did he?

Allegri failed to integrate Ronaldo into the team.

The manager has the responsibility, not the player. Meanwhile, Ronaldo still scored 28 goals.
 

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You realize that stat shows he's outperforming his expected goals? :lol:

You geniunely misunderstood 'the quality of his shots' as a criticism to him as a finisher... when it's about how tough the shots are, which he rightly takes in this Juve team.

You know the NBA stat circus is getting into football when the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Ruben Neves and Harry Kane get criticism for shooting at goal. Lucky Batistuta for escaping the analytics nonsense :lol:

Just a coincidence that Dybala went from 22 goals to 5 this season?
Benzema went from 12 to 30, clearly Ronaldo was holding Madrid back from their real potential.
 

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You realize that stat shows he's outperforming his expected goals? :lol:

You geniunely misunderstood 'the quality of his shots' as a criticism to him as a finisher... when it's about how tough the shots are, which he rightly takes in this Juve team.

You know the NBA stat circus is getting into football when the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Ruben Neves and Harry Kane get criticism for shooting at goal. Lucky Batistuta for escaping the analytics nonsense :lol:



Benzema went from 12 to 30, clearly Ronaldo was holding Madrid back from their real potential.
Did you perhaps see Quagliarella's stats?
 

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Did you perhaps see Quagliarella's stats?
You didn't link them. What are his pressure regains and turnovers like?

Last year Ronaldo scored 44 goals, Benzema scored 12. This year Ronaldo is at 28, Benzema at 30. Must be magic to explain something like this... that or having no clue about what's even happening by not watching the games and following football through a stat sheet. I guess Benzema is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo... and Stuani and Iago Aspas are better goalscorers than Antoine Griezmann too! Vardy is better than Kane! Callum Wilson is better than Lacazette...

Juve won the league in January, with Ronaldo leading the league in goals and assists. Then Juve stopped giving a shit, he went over 2 months without playing a football match in Serie A and Quagliarela kept playing his one game a week in a team built to feed him goals since they have nothing else to play for.

Do you have any doubt at all he'll score more goals if Juve pick an offensive minded manager? Stats don't happen in a vacuum, they depend on the circumstances.
 

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He's gotten Allegri sacked with his failure to inspire Juve this season. Worst season of Allegri's tenure and maybe even the worst since Conte took over in 2011.
When I initially saw this as it was posted, I thought it was to troll/antagonise but now coming back hours later to see the replies and that you were actually being serious, has me nothing short of amazed.
 

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You realize that stat shows he's outperforming his expected goals? :lol:

You geniunely misunderstood 'the quality of his shots' as a criticism to him as a finisher... when it's about how tough the shots are, which he rightly takes in this Juve team.

You know the NBA stat circus is getting into football when the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Ruben Neves and Harry Kane get criticism for shooting at goal. Lucky Batistuta for escaping the analytics nonsense :lol:



Benzema went from 12 to 30, clearly Ronaldo was holding Madrid back from their real potential.

Really cant stand that nonsense.

Too many US sporting terms are being used "clutch gene", "GOAT" etc it's irritating.
 

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Injuries caught up to CR7 this year, but if you look at his numbers, 21 goals and 8 assists in 30 starts in the Serie A is pretty damn good, as is 6 goals and 2 assists in 9 Champions League starts. He is pretty much scoring or assisting 1 goal per game...
 

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He's gotten Allegri sacked with his failure to inspire Juve this season. Worst season of Allegri's tenure and maybe even the worst since Conte took over in 2011.
Allegri wasn't sacked
 

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You didn't link them. What are his pressure regains and turnovers like?

Last year Ronaldo scored 44 goals, Benzema scored 12. This year Ronaldo is at 28, Benzema at 30. Must be magic to explain something like this... that or having no clue about what's even happening by not watching the games and following football through a stat sheet. I guess Benzema is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo... and Stuani and Iago Aspas are better goalscorers than Antoine Griezmann too! Vardy is better than Kane! Callum Wilson is better than Lacazette...

Juve won the league in January, with Ronaldo leading the league in goals and assists. Then Juve stopped giving a shit, he went over 2 months without playing a football match in Serie A and Quagliarela kept playing his one game a week in a team built to feed him goals since they have nothing else to play for.

Do you have any doubt at all he'll score more goals if Juve pick an offensive minded manager? Stats don't happen in a vacuum, they depend on the circumstances.
he went over 2 months without playing a football match in Serie A
6 games he's missed

Quagliarela kept playing his one game a week
He has 5 more games than ronaldo, a total of 450 extra minutes. Ronaldo scores every 123 minutes, Quagliarella every 117.
in a team built to feed him goals
And how was Juve playing? did they expect anyone else to score goals besides Ronaldo in the Atletico or Ajax legs? It didn't seem like it

since they have nothing else to play for.
Neither had Juve for the last month, still Quagliarella made the gap bigger.

Do you have any doubt at all he'll score more goals if Juve pick an offensive minded manager? Stats don't happen in a vacuum, they depend on the circumstances.
Ironic that you say this after your rant in the post about the comparisons against Quagliarella, Fabio has worse service and plays for a team where his teammates score less goals. I don't get why you have to fight the idea that Quagliarella has been a better scorer than Ronaldo in the Serie A this year.

And even if you compare wages it's an absurd debate that you just want to win for I don't know what reason. Juve didn't sign Ronaldo to help them win the league, or to make him the Capocannonieri. They signed him to win the UCL, and it was evident that their Plan A, B, C and half of D always consisted on having Ronaldo scoring the goals in their legs and he did his part, but the league and cup?. I don't think he's had enough output to justify a 100M transfer and his wages in those competitions.
 

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6 games he's missed



He has 5 more games than ronaldo, a total of 450 extra minutes. Ronaldo scores every 123 minutes, Quagliarella every 117.


And how was Juve playing? did they expect anyone else to score goals besides Ronaldo in the Atletico or Ajax legs? It didn't seem like it



Neither had Juve for the last month, still Quagliarella made the gap bigger.



Ironic that you say this after your rant in the post about the comparisons against Quagliarella, Fabio has worse service and plays for a team where his teammates score less goals. I don't get why you have to fight the idea that Quagliarella has been a better scorer than Ronaldo in the Serie A this year.

And even if you compare wages it's an absurd debate that you just want to win for I don't know what reason. Juve didn't sign Ronaldo to help them win the league, or to make him the Capocannonieri. They signed him to win the UCL, and it was evident that their Plan A, B, C and half of D always consisted on having Ronaldo scoring the goals in their legs and he did his part, but the league and cup?. I don't think he's had enough output to justify a 100M transfer and his wages in those competitions.
What? So they won the league by a mile and he didn't justify his wages by scoring after the league had already been won?? They pay him money to win titles, not to get an arbitrary amount of completely meaningless goals... and the cup?? :lol:

Seriously please go watch the Atalanta 3-0 Juventus game.

Juve fans are happy with the transfer and how much they're paying him. Yet the wave of bitter idiots who don't even watch the games can always pick something out of their asses to throw.

Sampdoria scored 11 less goals than Juve in the league... it's not harder to score for Sampdoria than it is for Juventus as the main focus in attack this season, they're just not as clinical. In the second half of the season it's been easier if anything. Just like it's easier for Iago Aspas and Stuani to score more for Celta and Girona than it is for Antoine Griezmann to score for Atletico. They're not better scorers either... Playing for a better team does not make it easier to score goals in a linear fashion.

And no, Juve did not play the past few months by focusing the goalscoring on him or attempt to get him as many goals as possible to get him the top scorer award the way Sampdoria have. Juve bought him to win the Champions League, that's true. They're not winning the Champions League with at least 2 key players out for every knockout game they play and as far as I'm aware Ronaldo's not payed to be the physio. Criticizing a player for not inspiring a team to a Champions League title after one fecking attempt at it with a bunch of injury problems is just incredible but it speaks volumes that there's only one player in the world with those expectations on his shoulders.

Also hilariously ironic that a Barcelona fan can come to this thread talking about wasting wages on not winning the Champions League with the biggest wage bill this sport has ever seen and humiliation after humiliation in Europe... or do Barca pay their players to win their one team league where they can steal the second placed team's best players like it's nothing?
 

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There's not point in quibbling about how many goals he's scored this season.

He's 34 now and his legacy is secure, regardless of what happens at Juventus.
 

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They invented the Award just for him like they did it in la liga

Exactly. Theyre trying to mask the disappointing season hes had. Playing for a 1 team league, being one of the greatest goalscorers of all time. He didnt even hit 30 goals.
And most valuable? Didnt he only contribute 30 per cent of his teams goals, compared to Fabios 45 per cent. Fabio outscored and outperformed Cristiano, that much is clear.
 
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