Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by #07, Jan 8, 2019.
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The fact that Sir Alex is such a massive club legend underlines my point. I really think it’s better if he stays upstairs once the new permanent manager has started. I understand why he is there helping Ole but this should be kept to a minimum. All top managers will be uneasy about having him looking over their shoulder. We want as many top level candidates for the job as possible.
It's a one off visit during a temp manager's reign whose current job is to get morale back up and to remind players what kind of club they're playing for.
I wouldn't worry about what happens when a different manager comes in. He hasn't stuck his oar in with the others.
He stayed out of the way of the last three managers and look how they did.
MUGA is awesome.
Just you wait, you'll be wearing it for ironic reasons
Why do I feel like Custis lied.
What a man indeed.
Everybody who loves Manchester United can perfectly well understand your emotions for Sir Alex Ferguson.
It is an oft used statement but you don't really know what you have got till it has gone.
He was simply the best manager ever and any involvement with the club, however small has to be a good thing.
Don't agree at all with your second comment.
If a prospective new manager does not welcome SAF having some sort of investment then that person would be cutting off his nose to spite his face.
I truly believe that SAF is the greatest manager of all time.
While I agree that the spectre of SAF hovering over a non United manager/former player would be intimidating, for Ole, it’s just a continuation of his professional career. The man had an immense impact on his footballing philosophy and optimistic outlook. If anyone isn’t intimidated by SAF lurking around, it’s Ole.
Just excited for the whole club. I love the feeling right now.
Can we not tie him to Trump?
Mourinho just said some rather petty things about Ferguson.
Being petty towards the club, not Sir Alex. He's just stating facts and making the point that Sir Alex was given more time to build an empire. If he hadn't been the architect of his own downfall, he might have a point.
"I am a very young coach, I have trained for many years but I am not 75 years old, I am 55. I have won a European competition in two years, not in 20. I won an English Cup in two years, not in 20. I was runner-up of the Premier in six months, not in six years, I have reached my second final of the FA Cup a few months ago, not years ago, "said the Portuguese coach, in clear comparison, but without naming him, the legendary Scottish coach who led United for 27 seasons.
Tbf Jose isn't having a go at anyone, looks like he is answering from the "past it" point of view, that he won lot in last 2 years.
I agree, but I can also understand the new permanent manager not wanting too much input from Fergie, in the same way Busby is widely understood to have overshadowed Wilf McGuinness.
However what we're talking about here is him joining one of his old players, with whom he has a great relationship, while Ole takes temporary charge of the team to boost the feelgood factor and focus minds on what United should mean to the players. There's nothing wrong with that at all for me.
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It doesn't sound amazing on the face of it, comparing yourself to Fergie is only going to go one way (particularly around these parts!). But Jose has every right to defend himself from accusations he's over the hill, and stating facts in terms of what he's won at a relatively young age suggests he could have plenty of time in management yet.
Agreed. I'm sure Jose will ride again when he finds himself at a club that is willing to conform to his every want and need. However, most elite managers (excluding Fergie) only get around 10 years at the top before the game changes enough to make their methods obsolete.
He won't stop talking about past achievements, did he?
It seems like he has some kind of vendetta against SAF.
I wonder how many dressing rooms SAF has lost
He's more nostalgic then SAF is and the Scottish legend has retired.
Nah he's just trying to persuade prospective employers that he is still a top tier manager. His reputation took a big hit following his last 3 appointments and all he's got to justify he is still relevant is the past
I've seen a similar interview/spat between sacchi and allegri on live tv.
Why compare himself to SAF then? Why not to Klopp or Pep but SAF?
There's something behind those words.
No one gives a feck of ancient history else clubs would be rushing at capello, lippi and the trap to hire them up
Mou is still a respectable manager but he is not a top tier one. No manager who had massively underachieved in the past 3 jobs can be considered as so. Going go toe to toe with a living legend who hasn't said one bad word against him won't help. Actually it makes him look sour and will justify rumours that he lost it
I'm not sure who he's saying this for anymore. We all know his past achievements, he has been a fantastic coach and won everything worth winning in multiple countries. However, he's been fired from his last 3 jobs that have ended quite badly so is he saying this to make himself feel better? Is this some sort of public pep talk for himself? I don't get it.
Anyone that potentially wants to hire him knows his CV and knows what he will bring to the club so I just don't understand these constant reminders, and how long will he be able to keep talking about it before it becomes the same as Van Gaal talking about winning the CL with Ajax?
Did he compare himself to SAF? I read his interview and he didn't bring any name, it's just Marca's interpretation.
His jabs are quite self explanatory.
He can say whatever he wants about himself but when even rivals fans want you to get sacked because you're destroying football then something is wrong with your management style. Maybe he thinks other CEO don't read media and follow closely situation at other Clubs?
What I find hilarious is why he compared himself to a living legend whose got decades of unprecedented success at his back, especially since SAF didn't even said one bad word against him. That's stupid and further confirm that he lost it. I mean, who would do that? Can you imagine Bocelli throwing jabs at Pavarotti, Joshua King comparing his records to those of Mohammed Ali or Banksy comparing himself to Leonardo? Of course not. That would make the person look silly especially if the person in question is passing from a very bad patch.
Definitely, I'm by no means saying Jose comes out of the comparison looking good nor that stating what he won ten or more years ago will do him many favours if he continues to have United-style disasters in the future but I'm trying not to fly off the handle when Jose alludes to his and Fergie's records.
Stating for the record that he won big trophies at a younger age than Fergie, and that he has time to win more things like Fergie did into his 70s, isn't a problem for me. If he actively stated his record was somehow better than Fergie's and that he should have been afforded 26 years to build the club in his image it's fair to say that would be a different matter.
It's very clear whos's talking about there.
I fully agree. That interview is the epitome of a person who lost it. Its natural for people to try and defend their career, especially if they are passing from a bad patch. However if a sacked IT person goes on the media to compare his record to that of Bill Gates then he will look silly, especially if Bill Gates said nothing against that IT person. There are thresholds no one should pass for their own sake.
I remember Brian Clough throwing jabs at a young SAF for not winning 2 CL. SAF stirred clear from replying to the legend even though, unlike Mourinho now, he was still on top.
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