Sony delist game from PSN
Everyone should be able to appreciate you need to spare some time for a quick round of Gwent.This is an issue in all open world RPGs that still want to tell a story.
Just think of the Witcher 3, the most obvious example: sure, Ciri is hunted by an interdimensional elven biker gang who literally want to take over our world because theirs is collapsing - but hey I'm sure they'll be polite enough to wait while I play a few rounds of Gwent with this innkeep at the arse end of nowhere.
Mainstream games can be that good - see Witcher 3 and God of War being better. And if we're discussing it as gamings greatest ever, then we have to be cynical and ruthless. The core gameplay was very poor. Overall, it was an excellent experience, as it had a lot of strengths but the actual gameplay was sorely lacking.The story thing doesn’t fly either for me. It builds fantastically as things go from bad to worse. You really feel it going to shit.
The world is unbeatable and anyone saying otherwise is perhaps one of those pretentious gamers that can’t accept a mainstream game being that good, or they didn’t like how slow the gameplay was at times and couldn’t look past it.
There are issues, like with all games. Some people just look back on older games with rose tinted glasses. Probably helped that the world didn’t use to be so cynical. The main issue is the clunky controls and shooting, but it wasn’t game breaking by any stretch.
As for those suggesting a PS4 exclusive is better, well, we’ve seen how they act in the console thread. They’re still pretending the ps5 constantly fecking up is ok, so they can’t be trusted with an opinion.
That's great. But I'll be able to re purchase it in a few months right? Why on earth are they removing it?!Tweet
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Because CDPR told everyone to contact Sony for a refund and Sony probably didn’t like their phone lines jammed as a result of that, so they probably felt it’s best taking it off the store.That's great. But I'll be able to re purchase it in a few months right? Why on earth are they removing it?!
They won't pour resources into a Blood & Wine-sized DLC unless they think it'll be a financial success. They certainly won't do it as an apology or give it away for free.I wonder, if the game is ever patched to an acceptable level would they release some DLC (if any was planned) for free as way of an apology? Some sort of nice gesture to fans. The DLC for Witcher 3 was of ridiculously high quality (better and longer than most full games)
I thought maybe they might have had some DLC already half complete or cut from the end game but yeah that makes more sense maybe there is no coming back from this, on the last generation at any rate. What a disaster!They won't pour resources into a Blood & Wine-sized DLC unless they think it'll be a financial success. They certainly won't do it as an apology or give it away for free.
EA abandoned Mass Effect: Andromeda after 4-5 months and cancelled all planned DLC. The way this is going I wouldn't be surprised if CDPR do the same for 2077 and abandon it as a lost cause, on Playstation 4 at least.
Just bought some CDPR shares, good time to buy considering their stock at an almost all time low
I can see them quickly moving to another Witcher game. They’d probably release one DLC expansion rather than two. They also have multiplayer lined up for this and no idea how that is going to work. They are saying 2023 for multiplayer and by that time new GTA should be on the horizon.They won't pour resources into a Blood & Wine-sized DLC unless they think it'll be a financial success. They certainly won't do it as an apology or give it away for free.
EA abandoned Mass Effect: Andromeda after 4-5 months and cancelled all planned DLC. The way this is going I wouldn't be surprised if CDPR do the same for 2077 and abandon it as a lost cause, on Playstation 4 at least.
not for a game like this no. Its insaneHas anything like this happened before?
Because this will stand out as the biggest feck up in recent history when it comes to games.
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i was wondering this earlier. Is this worse than Fallout 76? Bethesda did some pretty messed up stuff in the weeks after that came out. There’s a great video on YouTube about it.Has anything like this happened before?
Because this will stand out as the biggest feck up in recent history when it comes to games.
Really disappointed with this. CDPR was(is?) one of the better guys. They have just played into the hands of the EAs/Bethesda's of the world by releasing such an incomplete game.Seems like Sony got royally pissed off with the unilateral offer of refunds.
CDPR have thrown years worth of reputation into the garbage into the space of a week. They’ll be studying this fiasco in business schools for a long time to come
I can understand their dliemma. They've spent years (years and years and years) developing PC, PS4 and Xbox One versions of this game. And it's not ready. And every month they wait the PS4 and Xbox One version they've spent years working on becomes less relevant.Really disappointed with this. CDPR was(is?) one of the better guys. They have just played into the hands of the EAs/Bethesda's of the world by releasing such an incomplete game.
I was really rooting for them, an independent and loved studio bringing out a completely new AAA+ IP. Would have given so much confidence to other studios.
I hope they can come back from this debacle, and re-release the game with all the bugs/glitches/game mechanic issues. Huge Development and PR challenge for them to stay afloat.
For what its worth, I ain't getting a refund yet. CDPR has always delivered for their 'gamers' - albeit slightly delayed. And I owe them my loyalty for bazillion hours of awesomeness that was the Witcher series.
It's interesting how you corrected @Paxi for generalising about Red Dead 2 yet throw around such sweeping statements as what I've bolded above.Mainstream games can be that good - see Witcher 3 and God of War being better. And if we're discussing it as gamings greatest ever, then we have to be cynical and ruthless. The core gameplay was very poor. Overall, it was an excellent experience, as it had a lot of strengths but the actual gameplay was sorely lacking.
Like I said people seek different things from games. For me, there's a bar which the gameplay experience must at the very least reach, otherwise it hurts the overall quality. With RDR2 it absolutely nailed some things but that bit was sub par.
It's fair enough to agree to disagree. But I don't believe it's down to "AAA games not getting credit" or "cynicism of modern times".
They've been doing shitty stuff for a while.Really disappointed with this. CDPR was(is?) one of the better guys.
Followed by a 17% drop in their share price today.That is humiliating for CDPR.
The most hyped game of the year and Sony shitcan it off their store.
Final Fantasy XIV was worse to be fair. They had to pull the game completely and basically redo it, and it worked out well.Holy shit game deleted from the PS store......crazy
Possibly the biggest fail launch of all time now
im only about 14 hours in but I’m enjoying it on ps5 with little problems so far but I’m considering a refund and re-purchasing when it gets fixed
Yes because his was factually incorrect - most gamers don't see it as the 'perfect' game. Barely anyone sees anything as perfect. Critics viewed it as an excellent game with some flaws.It's interesting how you corrected @Paxi for generalising about Red Dead 2 yet throw around such sweeping statements as what I've bolded above.
You answer your own question with your second sentence.Why are people losing their shit over this being removed from the store? As a story it's big. But if the developer is saying take your refund the game has issues, Sony would be silly to keep selling such a game through Psn and then increasing their admin costs of refunding.
Yes but nobody seems to be talking about how logical it is. More of surprise and shock.You answer your own question with your second sentence.
Yeah, if CDPR have asked Sony to provide refunds whenever required due to bugs the only reasonable action from Sony is to temporarily remove it. Why sell a game which you're saying needs fixing so you can have your money back if you don't like it?Why are people losing their shit over this being removed from the store? As a story it's big. But if the developer is saying take your refund the game has issues, Sony would be silly to keep selling such a game through Psn and then increasing their admin costs of refunding.
I think so. It's just an unecessary mess for them to sell a game on their store which may well have to be refunded to the consumer. And it's not as if it's a small game which won't care about the issues with. It's cyberpunk. It's a huge story and everyone now knows how differently it runs on the new consoles and PC. And the developer has acknowledged it's poor on the old consoles. So it's bound to lead to people buying it now, trying it out for a bit and then returning it. Then theres the issue of how much playing time is too much.Yeah, if CDPR have asked Sony to provide refunds whenever required due to bugs the only reasonable action from Sony is to temporarily remove it. Why sell a game which you're saying needs fixing so you can have your money back if you don't like it?