It's true there was a lot of hyperbole back then (which I probably contributed to) but that's hardly Welbeck's fault. I don't think he deserves to be a laughing stock on here. He's a Manchester lad who did his best for the club. And his best, while never close to world-class, was often pretty good.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
That’s my issue. He was ridiculed by the media, opposition fans etc for years and then when he signed for Arsenal, all of a sudden we had ‘sold our soul’. The worst thing was our fans who lapped it up and had a meltdown anytime he scored (which was rare).
That coupled with the whole ‘dreaming of playing for Arsenal’ bollox means I have zero time for him. The meltdowns on here from his fans over the years became tedious a-long time ago.
Agreed, Danny shouldn't be a laughing stock but anyone who appeared in/on national media bleating about United selling their soul certainly should be. I couldn't believe some of the stuff I saw and heard from back then.
Wonder if he’ll go join his mate Jack at West Ham? Seems the next logical step, but West Ham might have higher ambitions at this point.
When we bought him we were desperate. Shame it hasn't worked out for him but he scored one memorable goal for us so it was worth the 16 mill.
He'll wind up at his level, like they always do - West Ham etc. Some of our fans when we sold him were downright baffling - the lad worked hard but you'd have sworn we'd sold bloody Ronaldo.
A cheeky move to Spurs?
He's too prolific for sp*rs. They like spending big money on useless Euro-shite.
Welbeck and prolific in the same sentence, my oh my
Bournemouth would be my guess. Though they have Wilson etc. I think Everton could do worse, I cant take that Tosun fella seriously.
I could see him at Fulham.
I'd take him at Palace but I think we're skint.
He’ll find his level with his next move and his international days are most likely numbered.
It's funny the fact that some people STILL think the guy can play and perform at top level, he's terrible and has always been, even under SAF.
He managed 13 goals the season before Fergie bought RVP. He was never going to be the main man at OT though, not terrible but not near good enough for United.
I wasn't surprised United sold Welbeck. But I was surprised at Arsenal signing him. In my opinion Welbeck is not good enough for either club.
We were desperate for a striker at the time. He was the best option.
They did, about six years ago.
You're more obsessed with Welbeck than Lynk was, which is some achievement. If Arsenal do decide to sell I wouldn't be enormously surprised if Mourinho brought him back, which would be worth it just for the response it would get from you. It might also be a decent shout, on the basis that Danny Welbeck was (admittedly before career-threatening injuries in each knee) a better player for us than Martial has ever been, and certainly made a greater contribution to the club than almost every single attacking player we've bought since he was told to pack his bags. We just used to have much higher standards as a football club.So he’s going to be sold it seems. Bet plenty on here still want him
It's all well and good saying that he wasn't good enough, or Nani wasn't, or Hernandez wasn't, but look at the absolute dross we replaced them with, and then the absolute dross that replaced them too. Welbeck being kicked out by that Dutch clown to make space for noted United legend Radamel Falcao remains a not insignificant milestone in the club's transition to the farce we still pretty much remain, 700 million quid later.
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Welbeck was told that he would be behind James Wilson in the pecking order, and that from the notoriously stubborn LVG. He made the right move for his career, and I don't understand the anger towards him from Utd fans. Probably the same sensitive souls who weep as soon as a Neville or Scholes makes any form of critical comment about the club or current player.
Unfortunately for Welbeck he has suffered a number of serious injuries at Arsenal, but it was still the correct choice for him, a chance at a good club, with his international career going well. He was a decent player for Utd, never particularly productive stats wise(and we know how incredibly important shiny stats are these days) but a grafter, who performed some important tactical jobs for the team. Always felt that if you could have combined his and Hernandez's key skills into one player you would have had an exceptional striker.
Unfortunately for Welbeck he has suffered a number of serious injuries at Arsenal, but it was still the correct choice for him, a chance at a good club, with his international career going well. He was a decent player for Utd, never particularly productive stats wise(and we know how incredibly important shiny stats are these days) but a grafter, who performed some important tactical jobs for the team. Always felt that if you could have combined his and Hernandez's key skills into one player you would have had an exceptional striker.
At this stage in his career, Danny Welbeck should be a player we watch on Match of the Day playing well for a team like Palace or Brighton. Get a club where he plays every week. He needs to leave Arsenal. Cant be playing second fiddle all your career.
Why on earth would Mourinho want to bring back a striker who cannot score and has a poor injury record ffs. He resembles bambi on ice even in his better games, all he offers a team is work rate.
Wasn't Martial your best outfield player one year? He showed more ability on his debut than Welbeck ever has. Rashford has only just broken through and still shows more composure in front of goal than a now seasoned Welbeck.
Welbeck was useful under Fergie because he offered speed and energy, and because Ferguson was a fantastic manager who managed to look plenty of relatively average players look good. He still mostly played him out wide and in more specialist roles, but Welbeck wanted to lead the line, despite having no ability to finish.
Just because you replaced players poorly, does not mean they didn't need to be replaced. Nani has bounced from 3-4 clubs since leaving, Welbeck has been broken, and Hernandez was benched at West Ham. They were decent squad players but none of them leaving marks any kind of a milestone .. it was the decline of the likes of Vidic, Rooney, Van Persie, Carrick and other core players that marked the fall of your team, not to mention the loss of a great manager. Not a few squad players being replaced. Falcao was a gamble on a once world class striker gone wrong, nobody could have been 100% sure about the extent of his injury.
You're not a farce anymore, I don't get this. You finished second in the league, what you are now is a normal premier league side (Albeit one with great resources) rather than the inevitable victors Fergie led. You have successes and failures like any side, but you're not the mess you were under Moyes and LVG.
Anyway, to link any of this to the loss of Danny fecking Welbeck is ridiculous. You didn't win title after title off the back of a striker afraid of scoring. Martial & Rashford will both be more prolific forwards in their careers than Welbeck, I guarantee it, in fact they already are. Quite why you're pissing on your TWENTY YEAR OLD striker who has shown a great deal in order to big up a failed Arsenal forward I have no idea.
What’s with all the hate suddenly? I don’t rate him that much, but when he played for us he showed desire and had some skills to decelop nicely but he never fulfilled his potential and injuries didn’t help. He might end up as a midtable/ lower table player but he wasn’t wanted so he left, Falcao was absolutely shocking, so I dont think it’s not unjustified some voices. Can’t blame the player to leave and try to show some ambition, in the end as I said he never reached that level he thought he was but some of you should just take it easy, why so much hate about some of our academy players, never understood that
I think there's a difference between 'hate' and accepting that a player just wasn't good enough to play anything but a very limited role. Pre-injury Welbeck was a decent wide option due to, like you say, his work rate and desire. Problem is he got tired of that role and wanted to lead the line which he could never do for a top side, so he had to leave you.
Falcao was shocking, but that doesn't mean selling Welbeck was a bad idea, just means you replaced him poorly. Like I said, with Falcao you took a risk on a once world class striker and it failed, but you could see the logic.
It's mostly the "United selling its soul" narrative that pissed off the fans, because before he moved he wasn't seen as good enough and the sudden change in opinion was bizarre. Ideally people should know when to take other people's opinions seriously but it wasn't unexpected for some fans to react.
I thought he was a good player when he was with us, very team friendly. Provided verticality, good at linking up, willing to run to create space for others, and worked hard. He's just one of endless players who didn't fulfill their projected potential for whatever reason.
I thought he was a good player when he was with us, very team friendly. Provided verticality, good at linking up, willing to run to create space for others, and worked hard. He's just one of endless players who didn't fulfill their projected potential for whatever reason.
Eh, Welbeck’s transfer got us more flack than selling Ronaldo did. Weird as feck.
He should move abroad to Spain or Italy
I think I know which goal that was
If they sell him, who other than Aubameyang can play off the left?
It's because he couldn't improve his finishing.
Yeah and what are Falcao and Welbeck actually accomplishing at the moment ? Welbeck was an average, made to look better by one of the best ever club managers in the history of football. Falcao was recovering from an ACL ffs
Get him on a train and get him back from....
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Us getting 16m for Welbeck remains the biggest robbery we have pulled off. Probably ever. Taking a risk on falcao was worth it. Falcao was (and right now probably is) a top class striker. Welbeck was barely a striker
Good luck Welbeck, think he would do great at a team like Stoke where there is no pressure to get 20 goals a season. Could see him replacing Shaqiri, closer to North of England etc.
They should expect goal if they want to get back to PL... no longer in position to play for goalless draw in most games and only try to beat opposition in their tier
replacement for the tea lady?
Fair enough, but I thought he could contribute as a 15 goal link up man. He would be too good for the championship anyway. Maybe Southampton with Mark Hughes may like him
Should have played him against Crotia and make him chase Modric and/or Perisic all game. Just don't let him dribble for more than 5 seconds or get anywhere near the goal.
He might ve been more decisive in front of goal than Sterling.Should have played him against Crotia and make him chase Modric and/or Perisic all game. Just don't let him dribble for more than 5 seconds or get anywhere near the goal.
Annnnd breathe, bro.