Pogue Mahone
The caf's Camus.
I think he might be the best pundit of all the United ex-players currently on telly. Articulate and insightful. Needs more airtime.
What channel has he been on ?I think he might be the best pundit of all the United ex-players currently on telly. Articulate and insightful. Needs more airtime.
MNF on Sky Sports.What channel has he been on ?
He’s usually commentating on BT Sports.What channel has he been on ?
Not what he said though. He said Ronaldo wanted to be the best player in the world.Refreshing to hear although he's talking some bollocks regarding knowing since day 1 that Ronaldo would be the best player in the world and Rooney would end up United's all time top scorer.
Hopefully i will catch him again soon.MNF on Sky Sports.
That's a different Darren Fletcher pal, some idiot i can only assume BT picked up off the street.He’s usually commentating on BT Sports.
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Interesting, there is some justification then why SAF didn't picked him for certain games at that time. Not like SAF didn't play him at all -- Pogba did played some games. Then, he was so impatient and his agent plot and engineered escape plan.Darren Fletcher said:“The first time I spent out with my illness I did a spell coaching the reserve team when it included Pogba, [Jesse] Lingard, [Ravel] Morrison and we played him higher up the pitch in attacking areas," Fletcher said on Sky Sports .
“We felt like he was the one who would win us game, coupled with the fact he was ill-disciplined in the middle of the park.
“It goes back to a famous game when we felt like he left off the back of against Blackburn.
“Paul was on the bench and the boss picked Park Ji-Sung and Phil Jones in midfield. We didn’t think he was disciplined enough for the reserve team, never mind the first team at that time.”
https://www.goal.com/en/news/Pogba-...or-man-utd-reserves/i286qh89p73a1r0avpqwfczpf
SAF was the best, and known to be the best in the business at knowing when youngster were ready to be trusted as starters in the first-team yet still got dogs abuse from certain sections of the fan base oblivious to what was happening with Pogba in the Reserves at the time.Interesting, there is some justification then why SAF didn't picked him for certain games at that time. Not like SAF didn't play him at all -- Pogba did played some games. Then, he was so impatient and his agent plot and engineered escape plan.
That still does not justify utilizing Rafael, Jones and Park in cemter midfield and then coaxing Scholes put of retirement, sans givong Pogba a chance yet having stated publically he passed over the chance to sign Sneijder because of him.Interesting, there is some justification then why SAF didn't picked him for certain games at that time. Not like SAF didn't play him at all -- Pogba did played some games. Then, he was so impatient and his agent plot and engineered escape plan.
He clearly saw Pogba as a liability, when he’s not in possession. Which was abundantly clear in his reserve performances at the time and still his biggest weakness several years (and hundreds of first team appearances) later.That still does not justify utilizing Rafael, Jones and Park in cemter midfield and then coaxing Scholes put of retirement, sans givong Pogba a chance yet having stated publically he passed over the chance to sign Sneijder because of him.
It perfectly justifies it and is written in clear English. What is not to understand? All those options were reliable and dependable. Pogba was a liability defensively and in a midfield two and still is.That still does not justify utilizing Rafael, Jones and Park in cemter midfield and then coaxing Scholes put of retirement, sans givong Pogba a chance yet having stated publically he passed over the chance to sign Sneijder because of him.
Puhlease. Its laughable to defend it. We were not employing a 2 holding player system at the time. Pogba could easily have been partnered with one other player. I also insist no one who witnessed how bad Rafael faired as a center midfield player vs Blackburn can claim Pogba would have 'faired worse'. People just keep reaching for anything to deny the obvious fact we goofed and it cost us 90m in the end when it caused us to lose PogbaIt perfectly justifies it and is written in clear English. What is not to understand? All those options were reliable and dependable. Pogba was a liability defensively and in a midfield two and still is.
We shipped goals shamefully vs a horrible Blackburn at home because of experimenting with the likes of Rafael in midfield for example in that same period. I refuse to believe Pogba would have faired much worse at such times.He clearly saw Pogba as a liability, when he’s not in possession. Which was abundantly clear in his reserve performances at the time and still his biggest weakness several years (and hundreds of first team appearances) later.
So Fergie was well within his rights not to risk us shipping goals thanks to picking a very raw, 18 year old Pogba, with such obvious flaws in his game, during a tight title race.
We were playing a 2 man b2b system which required both players do their part and be reliable. The exact opposite of what Pogba does. The fact Rafael was poor just tells you how shit Pogba is defensively and how little you could rely on him.Puhlease. Its laughable to defend it. We were not employing a 2 holding player system at the time. Pogba could easily have been partnered with one other player. I also insist no one who witnessed how bad Rafael faired as a center midfield player vs Blackburn can claim Pogba would have 'faired worse'. People just keep reaching for anything to deny the obvious fact we goofed and it cost us 90m in the end when it caused us to lose Pogba
what?We were playing a 2 man b2b system which required both players do their part and be reliable. The exact opposite of what Pogba does. The fact Rafael was poor just tells you how shit Pogba is defensively and how little you could rely on him.
Yea we've spent 90m years later on him and he is still incapable of playing in a 2 man midfield and is still terrible defensively and has been liable for gifting numerous goals and chances to the opposition. Proving Sir Alex and Darren Fletcher to be spot on.
He had to earn his spot. No one has a divine rightwhat?
Anyway it's pretty obvious Fergie was playing hard ball with Pogba by that point. They didn't like the demands Raiola was making, and thought they'd call his bluff.
In the end it was an £89m pound mistake. Perhaps Fergie should have played him, let him do rubbish and then subbed him instead.
Knowing Pogba though all he wanted was a chance at a better level, the reserves was beneath him. I think he would have stepped up fine.
While I agree, he had already surpassed them and looked head and shoulders above everybody else. He was ready for the step up, but chances were very slim.He had to earn his spot. No one has a divine right
I watched alot of those reserves games and he wasnt pulling his weight. simple. performances were not up to standard...
Then we'd NEVER have called Scholes out of retirement. Nor had Carrick as a main stay.We were playing a 2 man b2b system which required both players do their part and be reliable.
Rather it tells you he was simply woefully out of position and a more natural midfielder would have probably faired better. Especially alongside the version of Jones we had those days.The fact Rafael was poor just tells you how shit Pogba is defensively and how little you could rely on him.
Did you watch him play for our reserves? He was actually finding it pretty difficult right around the time of the Blackburn game.what?
Anyway it's pretty obvious Fergie was playing hard ball with Pogba by that point. They didn't like the demands Raiola was making, and thought they'd call his bluff.
In the end it was an £89m pound mistake. Perhaps Fergie should have played him, let him do rubbish and then subbed him instead.
Knowing Pogba though all he wanted was a chance at a better level, the reserves was beneath him. I think he would have stepped up fine.
It wasn't a mistake - Fergie wouldn't have paid 89 pound to re-sign Pogba.what?
Anyway it's pretty obvious Fergie was playing hard ball with Pogba by that point. They didn't like the demands Raiola was making, and thought they'd call his bluff.
In the end it was an £89m pound mistake. Perhaps Fergie should have played him, let him do rubbish and then subbed him instead.
Knowing Pogba though all he wanted was a chance at a better level, the reserves was beneath him. I think he would have stepped up fine.
Yeah of course, I love watching Pogba, Morrison, Lingard, Keane, Tunnicliffe etc. We had a great young team at that point.Did you watch him play for our reserves? He was actually finding it pretty difficult right around the time of the Blackburn game.
He looked like he was struggling with the transition from the U18s - where he was physically and technically in a different league to everyone else - to senior football, where he actually had to put in a bit of a shift and pay attention to the defensive side of his game.
My main memory of his reserve appearances at that time (occasional long range screamer aside) was of him strolling around aimlessly, constantly failing to track runners. A taste of things to come!
Nice trolling pal.It wasn't a mistake - Fergie wouldn't have paid 89 pound to re-sign Pogba.
Its common sense. Pogba cannot defend and/or doesn't have the footballing brain or discipline to play in a midfield 2. He has proved this throughout his career.
Fergie was right, Fletcher is right. Anyone who thinks cos we paid 89 million for him that makes Pogba a brilliant midfielder is very naïve.
Pogba is talented, but a liability in midfield when played deep and given defensive responsibility
Completely agree. As talented as he is he does loss the ball in place you simply can’t. We have already conceded a couple of goals from him losing possession this season.It wasn't a mistake - Fergie wouldn't have paid 89 pound to re-sign Pogba.
Its common sense. Pogba cannot defend and/or doesn't have the footballing brain or discipline to play in a midfield 2. He has proved this throughout his career.
Fergie was right, Fletcher is right. Anyone who thinks cos we paid 89 million for him that makes Pogba a brilliant midfielder is very naïve.
Pogba is talented, but a liability in midfield when played deep and given defensive responsibility
Not sure if you really read OP or just skim past it by.How sad do you have to be to make a thread on Darren Fletcher because he criticised Pogba . Seriously anyone criticises Pogba and this guy makes a thread on them
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