David Alaba....

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Not great. We shouldn't be offering £400k a week to someone who'd be playing out of position though, which is basically what Alaba in CB is.
where did i say pay 400k a week to Alaba? You must be confusing me with someone else mate
 

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Not what we need at all. Alaba really is no great shakes as a CB. I've watched him enough there. And he's never been trusted as CDM so I assume he didn't cut it with the coaches either. He's a great LB. Excellent on the ball so only good at CB if your team absolutely dominate the ball. Good utility rotation option for Madrid. Our needs are different.
 

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He's not as good as he thinks he is. If Real lose Ramos and have to start Alaba-Varane that could be really, really funny.
Would take Sergio at Utd if he ever left there because has always been my dream CB signing (not happening)
 

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Is the general consensus that he doesn't have the physicality to work as a CB in the PL and that's the deal-breaker? Because he would appear to have everything else that United are looking for as a complimentary partner to Maguire:

  • Left-footed.
  • Rapid.
  • Positional awareness to cover for Maguire's aggressive style.
  • Can cover the wide areas as well as anybody (important if Telles is bombing forward).
  • Probably the most progressive passing CB in the world.
  • Overall excellent player.
  • Experienced.
  • Used to winning trophies.
  • Can play LB and in midfield if needed.
Am I missing something? I know £400k a week has been rumoured which I agree is too much, but personally I can't see him getting that anywhere. There's probably only 4/5 other teams who could afford to offer him that?


Real Madrid - touted as his most likely destination, but surely they will keep Ramos given his legend status at the club, goals and leadership? Between him and Varane they'll have a tonne invested in that position, and according to everything Perez says they are strapped for cash.

Barcelona - see above, no money.

PSG - would appear to be sorted at CB with Marquinhos and Kimpembe, have more pressing issues / bigger targets.

City - would be a good addition at LB for them but they aren't going to break their wage structure and offer him anywhere near £400k p/w.

Juve - I mention them as they always seem to get quality freebies and would be willing to offer him the £400k p/w probably (seeing as they gave that to Ramsey FFS). But they have De Ligt at LCB, he doesn't provide a successor to Alex Sandro at LB given his age, and they would likely have to shift Ramsey + maybe 1 or 2 more to make this happen. And even if that's the case, they might well use the budget on Pogba.
 

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Is the general consensus that he doesn't have the physicality to work as a CB in the PL and that's the deal-breaker? Because he would appear to have everything else that United are looking for as a complimentary partner to Maguire:

  • Left-footed.
  • Rapid.
  • Positional awareness to cover for Maguire's aggressive style.
  • Can cover the wide areas as well as anybody (important if Telles is bombing forward).
  • Probably the most progressive passing CB in the world.
  • Overall excellent player.
  • Experienced.
  • Used to winning trophies.
  • Can play LB and in midfield if needed.
Am I missing something? I know £400k a week has been rumoured which I agree is too much, but personally I can't see him getting that anywhere. There's probably only 4/5 other teams who could afford to offer him that?


Real Madrid - touted as his most likely destination, but surely they will keep Ramos given his legend status at the club, goals and leadership? Between him and Varane they'll have a tonne invested in that position, and according to everything Perez says they are strapped for cash.

Barcelona - see above, no money.

PSG - would appear to be sorted at CB with Marquinhos and Kimpembe, have more pressing issues / bigger targets.

City - would be a good addition at LB for them but they aren't going to break their wage structure and offer him anywhere near £400k p/w.

Juve - I mention them as they always seem to get quality freebies and would be willing to offer him the £400k p/w probably (seeing as they gave that to Ramsey FFS). But they have De Ligt at LCB, he doesn't provide a successor to Alex Sandro at LB given his age, and they would likely have to shift Ramsey + maybe 1 or 2 more to make this happen. And even if that's the case, they might well use the budget on Pogba.
very good analysis. I think the only thing that can put us off is his wage demands. He does have the physical capabilities to play anywhere. But as far as i see it, he will not get 400k anywhere (not sure if this is a rumor or a fact anyways). Other than that, he would be a very good signing that can add lots of experience to the team
 

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Is the general consensus that he doesn't have the physicality to work as a CB in the PL and that's the deal-breaker? Because he would appear to have everything else that United are looking for as a complimentary partner to Maguire:

  • Left-footed.
  • Rapid.
  • Positional awareness to cover for Maguire's aggressive style.
  • Can cover the wide areas as well as anybody (important if Telles is bombing forward).
  • Probably the most progressive passing CB in the world.
  • Overall excellent player.
  • Experienced.
  • Used to winning trophies.
  • Can play LB and in midfield if needed.
Am I missing something? I know £400k a week has been rumoured which I agree is too much, but personally I can't see him getting that anywhere. There's probably only 4/5 other teams who could afford to offer him that?


Real Madrid - touted as his most likely destination, but surely they will keep Ramos given his legend status at the club, goals and leadership? Between him and Varane they'll have a tonne invested in that position, and according to everything Perez says they are strapped for cash.

Barcelona - see above, no money.

PSG - would appear to be sorted at CB with Marquinhos and Kimpembe, have more pressing issues / bigger targets.

City - would be a good addition at LB for them but they aren't going to break their wage structure and offer him anywhere near £400k p/w.

Juve - I mention them as they always seem to get quality freebies and would be willing to offer him the £400k p/w probably (seeing as they gave that to Ramsey FFS). But they have De Ligt at LCB, he doesn't provide a successor to Alex Sandro at LB given his age, and they would likely have to shift Ramsey + maybe 1 or 2 more to make this happen. And even if that's the case, they might well use the budget on Pogba.
Liverpool are apparently interested as well.
 

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I feel like people are over rating Alaba. He has had 1 season as a CB in the Bundesliga where Bayern dominate the ball in most games.

Fabinho has looked a good CB for Liverpool. I think for where we want to go, we need a dominant CB that will win every first ball. I do not see Alaba winning ariel duels much.
 

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Where is the 400k thing coming from? No one is paying that.
 

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Heard he is asking for 12-13 mill a year, if thats true then the deal is off, thats more than Ramos.
 

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Real are meant to be set on Pau Torres who’s a left footed centre back and they’ve got Marcelo and Mendy at left back already so where would Alaba fit in there ?
 

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Real are meant to be set on Pau Torres who’s a left footed centre back and they’ve got Marcelo and Mendy at left back already so where would Alaba fit in there ?
is Torres not only if Ramos leaves ? hes a better LB then both mentioned, add in Marcelo must be getting on a bit but would be a big outlay for a LB if they are the wages he is waning
 

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He must have a preference as to where he plays, surely that will factor in quite highly as to where he chooses to go.
 

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Isn’t he trying to get a CDM/CM slot? Great left back, decent CB but there’s no point risking the signing if he wants to play out of position. BL is hard to judge and a lot of players look mint before coming to the PL plus he plays for Bayern. Would he really be that good outside of his position?

Davies is who we really want!
 

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Heard he is asking for 12-13 mill a year, if thats true then the deal is off, thats more than Ramos.
That's £200-£250k p/w - high but perhaps reasonable considering he's a really good player hitting the free market around his prime.

No chance is that more than Ramos either. He's definitely on more than that considering his profile and the wages Madrid are spending.
 

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That's £200-£250k p/w - high but perhaps reasonable considering he's a really good player hitting the free market around his prime.

No chance is that more than Ramos either. He's definitely on more than that considering his profile and the wages Madrid are spending.
As always, wages in Spain are reported as net, i.e. you're looking at ~ £450k per week.
Why else do you think Bayern have failed to match his demands?
 

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As always, wages in Spain are reported as net, i.e. you're looking at ~ £450k per week.
Why else do you think Bayern have failed to match his demands?
Ah OK - apologies, it wasn't specified that this was from reports in Spain.
 

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Ah OK - apologies, it wasn't specified that this was from reports in Spain.
Yeah no worries. reports keep mixing it up all the time. But the number you wrote, Alaba is probably already earning right now.
 

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Ah OK - apologies, it wasn't specified that this was from reports in Spain.
All points to Alaba looking for €20m p.a. which translates to £350k pw.
This is obviously gross and not net. Ramos is allegedly on €25m (£440k pw) at Real and Lewandowski and Neuer are Bayern’s top earners at something like €20m - €22m (£385k pw).

Bayern is not willing to make Alaba on of their top earners and this is the reason he wants to leave. I can only picture him going to Real or Barca.
 

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reports from german media say that real is offering 12m net + 20-30m signing bonus.
 

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This is gonna end real well for Alaba and Real, I can feel it...
 

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Marca is reporting that Alaba and Madrid agreed on a contract. 4 years, ~€11m p.a.
 

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So he must play as left-back again :lol:
Do you think that'll be the case? Baffling decision if so, they spent nearly £50m on Ferland Mendy who has played well so far and looks every bit Marcelo's natural successor.

The only reason this makes to me is off Ramos is actually off...

EDIT: Also to note Real have a £40m buy-back on Reguilon as an affordable future LB option too.
 
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Not sure if this was an ideal fit for either party, but it should go well enough.
 

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Marca is reporting that Alaba and Madrid agreed on a contract. 4 years, ~€11m p.a.
11m p.a after taxes surely? That as gross salary isn't very high at all and I'm sure he was already on the same or higher wages at Bayern. Must be something wrong in that or there are insane signing in fees that Bayern wouldn't want to match.

Initial rumors were that he wanted the same as Neuer and Lewandowski, which is around 350k if I'm not wrong.
 

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Marca said he will play at CB. I guess as a replacement for Sergio Ramos. Certainly weakens Ramos bargaining position for a new 2 year deal. So it looks like Madrid were the only team stupid enough to pay the wages and agent fees Alaba and his agent were asking for.
 

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Alaba may surprise me, but apart from no transfer fee, i really dont like this signing.
Aging, high wages, not in his best form, not really a great CB from what i have heard,

Also, if this is to replace Ramos, then Perez is a moron.
 

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Alaba may surprise me, but apart from no transfer fee, i really dont like this signing.
Aging, high wages, not in his best form, not really a great CB from what i have heard,

Also, if this is to replace Ramos, then Perez is a moron.
I don't generally like these signings, they haven't really worked for us. We have seen a shift in approach that's worked better, why go back to the same ways that got us Falcao, Bastian, Di Maria, Alexis.

He has played CB for one and half season in a team that dominates the ball and didn't need to do much defending last season.

Look at the goals / chances Bayern concede. I do not think he is worth the wage and hassle.
 

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Do you think that'll be the case? Baffling decision if so, they spent nearly £50m on Ferland Mendy who has played well so far and looks every bit Marcelo's natural successor.

The only reason this makes to me is off Ramos is actually off...

EDIT: Also to note Real have a £40m buy-back on Reguilon as an affordable future LB option too.
Well first of all this Marca report was false :rolleyes:

I still reckon Ramos will sign a new contract and Varane will surely stay too with Zidane in charge therefore he only could play left-back for them (Yes Mendy played well so far).

Barca have not much money for transfers (respectively the wage bill) but Alaba to Barca would make much more sense.
 

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Fabrizio Romano said its done and he will earn €230,000 a week after tax.

With football finances so perilous at the moment theres noway anyone else will match that. Barcelona cant sign anyone anyway without all three presidential candidates being in agreement. Plus there finances are so bad that it looks like getting Messi off the books is the only way to start addressing that.
 

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I'm just glad once this is over and he is gone.
I always liked him, but he is nowhere near the CB or CDM he thinks he is. Demanding wages like Lewandowski and Neuer is nothing short of presumptuous, especially during a time like this.

His passing skills are obviously good for a CB but not that great. Hummels and Boateng in their prime were miles better in this regard and still are comfortably.
But his defending skills are just okay, nothing more, especially against attackers that know how to use their bodies. He would get bullied in the PL i think.

Many Bayern fans don't understand why Alaba is still the head of our defense and Lucas Hernandez, arguably our best defender this season, is warming the bench while Alaba at CB and Davies as LB are delivering one mediocre performance after another.
 

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To people moaning about the wages: there is no transfer fee, his total contract over 4 years will be around what - 50 million? Where do you get a top CB in his prime for that price? It's why players are running contracts down, so they can pocket the fee over the contract in wages instead of the selling club.

Maguire transfer fee + contract will cost us over 100 million?

Whether Alaba is a good fit for us is a different debate - in my opinion he isn't - we need players with hunger, desperate to establish themselves and honoured to be even linked with us.
 

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To people moaning about the wages: there is no transfer fee, his total contract over 4 years will be around what - 50 million? Where do you get a top CB in his prime for that price? It's why players are running contracts down, so they can pocket the fee over the contract in wages instead of the selling club.
A top CB in his prime? He has played 1.5 season as a CB.
 

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Not quite true, he has played the position before, most prominently in Pep's last season. A proper box-to-box center back.
in 15/16. If you are a top top CB, like some people go on about him, you would expect him to play CB in 16/17 or 17/18 o 18/19 but he didn't.

Bayern are a very functional team, the way they played last season under Flick, the CB was more for pace, passing because they were so good on the press and winning the ball back. Hardly did Bayern play a game where they had to defend for large parts of games.

At United, that is different, being a CB in a Pep, Klopp, Flick team is different to a defensive minded manager's team.
 

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To people moaning about the wages: there is no transfer fee, his total contract over 4 years will be around what - 50 million? Where do you get a top CB in his prime for that price? It's why players are running contracts down, so they can pocket the fee over the contract in wages instead of the selling club.

Maguire transfer fee + contract will cost us over 100 million?

Whether Alaba is a good fit for us is a different debate - in my opinion he isn't - we need players with hunger, desperate to establish themselves and honoured to be even linked with us.
You should also include his signing on fees, which were reportedly very high too (20-30 million reported, don't know if it includes agents fees).
 

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Didnt his agent want a £20mil fee or something crazy hence all the controversy. Be interesting to see what Madrid will pay the agent in the end.