As bad as its been for United lately, imagine being a West Ham fan today.
David Moyes West Ham Manager (Again) | European Champion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Cant understand the hate here. They are one point above the drop zone. Surely, too risky to try any hipster option now. That narrow downs the list to the old tried and tested managers.
Hodgson or Rafa would have been perfect but the club is looking for a short term fix now . Moyes is okay for a short term tenure, knows the club etc. He will keep them safe.
Hodgson or Rafa would have been perfect but the club is looking for a short term fix now . Moyes is okay for a short term tenure, knows the club etc. He will keep them safe.
Yeah it was a season with some terrible results just like this season. Of course getting wins against the big sides is more fun than beating Bournemouth and Aston Villa, but the points are still the same.
Other big teams around us is struggling too so we might even be able to get top 4 by getting less points than Moyes got if Chelsea struggles in the future. If we beat Chelsea again then that would help a lot too.
You can argue that the league is harder now with stronger teams near the bottom, but we have also spent crazy amounts of money recently too with the highest or second highest wage bill in the league .
The point was mate we're only half way through this season. So they can't really be compared until after this ones over.
We can't escape the ghost of Moyes can we.
We made a dreadful mistake, and him merely being around in the same division is just another reminder.
He did ok at West Ham, keeping them up easily. But they should never have been that low.
He's failed everywhere he's been since Everton, and West Ham didn't want to keep him on last time.
So what's changed? And why on earth do they think he's in any shape or form the right man?! Baffling stuff.
We made a dreadful mistake, and him merely being around in the same division is just another reminder.
He did ok at West Ham, keeping them up easily. But they should never have been that low.
He's failed everywhere he's been since Everton, and West Ham didn't want to keep him on last time.
So what's changed? And why on earth do they think he's in any shape or form the right man?! Baffling stuff.
True it is a long way to go. Just at this stage of the season we are at a slightly worse position than then. Since we failed with everything then it can't really get much worse realistically.
He did alright for them last time though. Failed with Sunderland big time though and in Spain.
They just need to replace him better this time around.
I would not give Moyes more time than this season though for them.
"I have managed West Ham....dos....tres...cuatro times..."
You know that somewhere Woodward is thinking - 'Shit, that's one less option should Ole need replacing'.
I look forward to 400’passes in their next game
Well yeah perhaps but then that was a championship wining side with bags of experience and talent. So it's hardly surprising they were better at racking up points against the lower teams in the league.
West Ham and David Moyes Part Deux
And this decision by Karen Brady who’s also well known for telling people on The Apprentice how shit they are at business
He's a morbid curiosity isn't he!
Fully agree, people seem to have gone well too far the other way with the Moyes/Bruce's of this world.
While they're not going to get the juices flowing and the games evolved to the point they can't really do long term stints at clubs now they will still be seen as solid options for clubs who need to play it safe for a while and return to a more even keel.
Don't think it is our lack of experience that is the big problem now. More the lack of attacking patterns and a style to break teams down.
James might be the guy that suffers from not having played at this level much and Greenwood too, but the rest have experience in the league.
I am not sure Moyes listened enough to use the experience. Rio and Vidic played terrible for him (age probably since they never reached high levels again) and who knows if the playing like Jagielka statements are true. Carrick had his worst season for us under him too. Giggs did alright I think considering his age. Persie was not great apart from the odd games. Rooney was very mixed, but you could see the decline and yet he gave him a new contract. Evra was not great with his defending and he did continue to do well after he left us so it was not all down to age with him.
This will end in tears.....
Cringeworthy acts of delusion reported here on the BBC website
David Moyes: New West Ham manager says winning is 'what I do' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50950041
David Moyes: New West Ham manager says winning is 'what I do' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50950041
The (Re) Chosen One.
Can we ship THAT banner to them now?
Can we ship THAT banner to them now?
He is better than Pardew, Pulis, Bruce and Big Sam
. Obvious that they should pick him if Wenger and Benitez rejected them .He won against Olympiakos didn't he. One of the greatest comebacks in Champion's League history
Man's a born winner.
He won a title with us! Legend! Hardest title win ever to get that Community shieldHe won against Olympiakos didn't he. One of the greatest comebacks in Champion's League history
Man's a born winner.
. He should mention it.
"I think there's only two or three managers with a better Premier League win record. That's what I do, I win."
There's a statement! Is his record that good?
I assume he means current premier league managers... without looking it up I would assume currently Guardiola, Klopp, Mourinho and Rodgers would all have better win records in their careers.
There's a statement! Is his record that good?
I assume he means current premier league managers... without looking it up I would assume currently Guardiola, Klopp, Mourinho and Rodgers would all have better win records in their careers.
Nuno might be close, but they draw games a lot. Lampard should be above him too.
So I guess 5 or 6 would be more accurate.
In terms of total wins, he's 4th behind Redknapp, Wenger and Fergie. So amongst current managers he'd be 1st.
He won against Olympiakos didn't he. One of the greatest comebacks in Champion's League history
Man's a born winner.
You can just see a win against us incoming as he will make them all defensive, send in 80 crosses one of which De Gea will flap at before one of our players scores an own goal cue him recreating THAT Fulham celebration
Those saying he will go for Fellaini I think he would be very useful to him there
prayers go out to West Ham fans at this difficult time.
Its obvious as he been around the longest now. Man is as delusional as ever saying winning is what I do. What has he ever won that is of any note? Yes the Charity Shield but that was before he actually started "coaching United".
This sounds like a funny nightmare. I think we will not play them for a long time right?
Fellaini is useful anywhere when things do not go according to plan. Lump it up to him and there is panic in the opposing box. Look at our match against Juventus. They were so scared of him they scored an own goal. Lindelof is going to shat in his shorts if he has to play against Fellaini in the box.
Coming soon: David Moyes, so good we sacked him twice!
Oh for FS
He's either incredibly funny or he has no self awareness. He's a walking meme at this point.
RIP West Ham
"I come to your team and f*** shit up, I'm David Moyes." - Stormzy, 2015
For someone who has no reason to be cocky he sure has reached new levels of it:
He added: "It says an awful lot about the owners that they think the job I did with my backroom staff [was good enough] to give me another chance. This time, I'm going to give them no chance but to extend me.
"There is a clause in my contract to extend the deal. I'm going to make it impossible that that clause can't be activated. It's up to the players to make sure of that now."
He added: "It says an awful lot about the owners that they think the job I did with my backroom staff [was good enough] to give me another chance. This time, I'm going to give them no chance but to extend me.
"There is a clause in my contract to extend the deal. I'm going to make it impossible that that clause can't be activated. It's up to the players to make sure of that now."
What they did is make the parameter out of 500 and 300 games. There's not many who have managed that many games.
ooh david!
Yes, I'm sure the players will absolutely move mountains to keep you on there David....
Well he was the manager of the decade. (not sure which decade or who awarded him this honour)
