Glorio
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As though he's not a huge part of the environmentThis is next level. Victim of the system. Will improve once the environment improves.
As though he's not a huge part of the environmentThis is next level. Victim of the system. Will improve once the environment improves.
As though he's not a huge part of the environment
The funny thing is, you know as much as everyone else!My point I made 2-3 pages ago still stands.
None of you know anything about either his attitude, commitment, or defensive duties. There's 0 evidence about him not tracking back enough, or not giving a shit.
You just make up stuff because he doesn't track back at times when you armchair experts believe he should be tracking back. And you'll even go as far as to say he's a midtable player etc. And like another poster said a few pages ago, we have seen him bust a gut to win the ball back several times. And clips like the one vs Barkley are just blown out of proportion. You could find dozens of examples for every single player in the league where they do something like that.
The funniest thing is that it's really not difficult to comprehend that Rashford should be the furthest player up the pitch at all times when we are defending in our own half. If you want him to be helping his fullback at our own box at all times, then we are basically sabotaging ourselves by not having one of the most dangerous transition threats in world football as high up the pitch as possible for when we win the ball back.
My point I made 2-3 pages ago still stands.
None of you know anything about either his attitude, commitment, or defensive duties. There's 0 evidence about him not tracking back enough, or not giving a shit.
You just make up stuff because he doesn't track back at times when you armchair experts believe he should be tracking back. And you'll even go as far as to say he's a midtable player etc. And like another poster said a few pages ago, we have seen him bust a gut to win the ball back several times. And clips like the one vs Barkley are just blown out of proportion. You could find dozens of examples for every single player in the league where they do something like that.
The funniest thing is that it's really not difficult to comprehend that Rashford should be the furthest player up the pitch at all times when we are defending in our own half. If you want him to be helping his fullback at our own box at all times, then we are basically sabotaging ourselves by not having one of the most dangerous transition threats in world football as high up the pitch as possible for when we win the ball back.
The funny thing is, you know as much as everyone else!
Rashford will come good. For me he was the victim this season of a system that asked far too much of him. And so he got exhausted and demoralised. Playing in front of a strong midfield with a better left full back will make a huge difference.
That said, he isn't much of a presser so he will have to learn, once the environment improves.
https://tribuna.com/en/news/manutd-...hits-out-at-critics-for-branding-him-as-lazy/
Good read for people who believe that players don't care unless their body language shows it too
pity you lost out in your bid to buy the club or you could’ve definitely shipped him to ParisMe, too.
I'd take $5 and a subway token.
I think he'd do well in Paris provided he adapts to the culture. Luckily the French are big on sulking.
I’d say United won’t wanna lose him for anything under £80m (just my guesstimate in fairness) and factoring in his circa £300k wage, I don’t see anyone coughing up anywhere near that. A move away from United might actually rejuvenate him.How much is a suitable offer? I said we should have cashed in on him after he scored 30 goals, but now he's worth close to half of what he was worth in that season.
No one really gets the leeway of “staying up top” and not putting in a defensive shift anymore, in fairness. Not even Messi or Ronaldo. That’s one of the reasons they are no longer playing in the top leagues/for the top teams.Yeah, but I'm aware that your best attacking players are often instructed to stay high up the pitch at all times, especially in transition heavy teams like we have been for a long time now. And also to conserve energy.
Do you think he has been regularly disobeying his managers' instructions and still remained one of the first names on the team sheet under all of ETH, Ole and Mourinho?
There is zero evidence mate, apparently. Even if there is, still there is zero evidence.No one really gets the leeway of “staying up top” and not putting in a defensive shift anymore, in fairness. Not even Messi or Ronaldo. That’s one of the reasons they are no longer playing in the top leagues/for the top teams.
I mean you watched him last season, it shouldn’t be that difficult to admit that his work rate (for whatever reason) was unacceptably poor.
age old Caf phenomena. Some go a little OTT with the criticism, then a select few go completely the other way to try and defend the player.There is zero evidence mate, apparently. Even if there is, still there is zero evidence.
He’s definitely conserving energy (the Forest one was as bad).Yeah, but I'm aware that your best attacking players are often instructed to stay high up the pitch at all times, especially in transition heavy teams like we have been for a long time now. And also to conserve energy.
Do you think he has been regularly disobeying his managers' instructions and still remained one of the first names on the team sheet under all of ETH, Ole and Mourinho?
This is next level. Victim of the system. Will improve once the environment improves.
Why are you replying to yourself?And people who say he knows he has it easy at United and won't move are funny. He's one of the biggest scapegoats when things are not going well at United. He played through injury for so long under Ole that it very likely messed his body up permanently.
He could also go to PSG, earn at least as much as he does at United, if not more, win the league at a canter every season whilst being top scorer, get a better shot at the CL every season than he has had the chance to at United, and if things don't go well sometimes, he wouldn't get nearly as much attention and criticism as he does at United.
people have gone and lost their mindsWhy are you replying to yourself?
people have gone and lost their minds
He's been like that for a while actually.He's been turning into jogford recently. He needs to get his head sorted.
In other words, a stat padder?Rashford has been a victim of people putting him on a pedestal that his talent does not warrant and it got to his head. He is not worth anywhere near the money he's on and he's not someone you can build a team around. He's never had a good bottom level technically, even in his 30 goal season he had countless awful performances that were saved by a goal or assist. Apart from when he was just getting into the team, he doesn't consistently track back and contribute defensively by being a nuisance to opponents, which would have ironically been his bottom level contribution to the team had he been treated correctly according to his ability.
Fully agree with thisRashford has been a victim of people putting him on a pedestal that his talent does not warrant and it got to his head. He is not worth anywhere near the money he's on and he's not someone you can build a team around. He's never had a good bottom level technically, even in his 30 goal season he had countless awful performances that were saved by a goal or assist. Apart from when he was just getting into the team, he doesn't consistently track back and contribute defensively by being a nuisance to opponents, which would have ironically been his bottom level contribution to the team had he been treated correctly according to his ability.
Maybe they are just adding to their original post. All nonsense thoughWhy are you replying to yourself?
Rashford has been a victim of people putting him on a pedestal that his talent does not warrant and it got to his head. He is not worth anywhere near the money he's on and he's not someone you can build a team around. He's never had a good bottom level technically, even in his 30 goal season he had countless awful performances that were saved by a goal or assist. Apart from when he was just getting into the team, he doesn't consistently track back and contribute defensively by being a nuisance to opponents, which would have ironically been his bottom level contribution to the team had he been treated correctly according to his ability.
My point I made 2-3 pages ago still stands.
None of you know anything about either his attitude, commitment, or defensive duties. There's 0 evidence about him not tracking back enough, or not giving a shit.
You just make up stuff because he doesn't track back at times when you armchair experts believe he should be tracking back. And you'll even go as far as to say he's a midtable player etc. And like another poster said a few pages ago, we have seen him bust a gut to win the ball back several times. And clips like the one vs Barkley are just blown out of proportion. You could find dozens of examples for every single player in the league where they do something like that.
The funniest thing is that it's really not difficult to comprehend that Rashford should be the furthest player up the pitch at all times when we are defending in our own half. If you want him to be helping his fullback at our own box at all times, then we are basically sabotaging ourselves by not having one of the most dangerous transition threats in world football as high up the pitch as possible for when we win the ball back.
If he's crap without Luke Shaw, then he scored 30 goals because of Luke Shaw, am I right?
He changed his mindWhy are you replying to yourself?
I wish I had a pound for every time I have said the same. Some on here haven’t a clue how a forum works and if you disagree with them or they disagree with your pov then the name calling starts. I think there are a quite a few kids on here.It’s a fan forum.. you know.. for man united fans to talk about games and players and football in general, calling us armchair experts kinda defeats the object. It’s the whole point of a forum and it’s all about opinions… We watch every single minute of every game, we can have an opinion.
It’s also exactly what you are doing yourself.
Hmm, yeah, I've been thinking along those lines. Regardless of who is 'responsible' for the ups and downs of his performance, it may well just be the right time to reset his career and take a completely different trajectory.pity you lost out in your bid to buy the club or you could’ve definitely shipped him to Paris
I’d say United won’t wanna lose him for anything under £80m (just my guesstimate in fairness) and factoring in his circa £300k wage, I don’t see anyone coughing up anywhere near that. A move away from United might actually rejuvenate him.
I wish I had a pound for every time I have said the same. Some on here haven’t a clue how a forum works and if you disagree with them or they disagree with your pov then the name calling starts. I think there are a quite a few kids on here.