Can't really think of many who have performed worse. Every other starting CF has at least made themselves a nuisance if they've not scored or assisted.
Day 8: Sweden vs Slovakia | Croatia vs Czech Republic | England vs Scotland
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
The booing was bizarre. Second game of the Euros, not a great performance but a point against a big rival that more or less qualifies them
Not bizarre given the talent and the level of performance
Maybe the over inflated value of talent has led to over ambitious expectations and in turn booing
When he first broke through that’s where he played, he looked good again there when he had to fill in for injuries at the end of this season. At the end of the day he has games where he hides from the ball. He can do that without harming the team as a CB, not a CM. He has a lot of qualities that would make him strong there too. Just needs the organisational skills which doesn’t seem implausible.
was like watching United last night.
Two defensive midfielders, slow, ponderous football and lacking in any urgency and quality in the final 3rd.
A point was a fair result.
Two defensive midfielders, slow, ponderous football and lacking in any urgency and quality in the final 3rd.
A point was a fair result.
I don’t know why people expect more from England. It’s the same every tournament albeit 2018 when 3 times we played a decent side, and 3 times we lost.
England are clueless. The best thing the manager has done is finish mid-table with Middlesbrough. Every single player is overhyped to the point they get treated as world class without winning trophies. I haven’t got carried away for this tournament because I don’t get the hype with this England squad. At the very least if your strength is in attacking players play on that strength. Why have two holding midfielders.
Watching the game in the pub last night and the fans going nuts for Grealish coming on. Again the best thing he’s done is finish mid-table in the Premier League and wins fouls every game. I don’t understand why these players get so overhyped by fans and media.
England are clueless. The best thing the manager has done is finish mid-table with Middlesbrough. Every single player is overhyped to the point they get treated as world class without winning trophies. I haven’t got carried away for this tournament because I don’t get the hype with this England squad. At the very least if your strength is in attacking players play on that strength. Why have two holding midfielders.
Watching the game in the pub last night and the fans going nuts for Grealish coming on. Again the best thing he’s done is finish mid-table in the Premier League and wins fouls every game. I don’t understand why these players get so overhyped by fans and media.
no, we get this every tournament and I don’t remember it being true for a while. England are not “over hyped” - nobody I have spoken to considers England capable of winning this tournament, not one.
they do think England have an ok squad though (it is pretty deep in terms of options).
the disappoint last night is simply;
1. we should beat scotland with these players
2. We played without the passion the situation called for.
nobody is overhyping England!!!!
p.s I take your point about jack. I don’t understand how everyone has him down as one the best players in the world at the moment.
sorry, reply was a bit douchy since I could assume you weren't serious.
Yes, France obviously, it's just a pity they play such horrible football with sich a golden, diamond, generation. But they are strong.
Italy has played the best football so far.
England are overhyped. Granted many fans don’t think we will win it but everyone thinks we have a decent set of players when ultimately we have a decent group of attackers facilitating 3 positions on the pitch.
GK - crap
CB - crap
CM - crap
That’s a huge chunk of the spine that aren’t very good and no wonder Southgate plays the formation he has to protect that area.
That’s not really true though is it.
GK- usually crap for club but performs very well for England
CB- Stones plays for the best team in England, Maguire is one of the best CBs going
CM- Rice is a good holding player. The other one should be Bellingham who dominated City at 17 years old.
The issue really simply isn’t the personnel, it’s the fact Southgate can’t pick the best England side and give them every chance to succeed.
Totally agree, Southgate is a cautious manager and knows his teams weaknesses hence why he didn't go all out for the win and instead played to make sure his team qualified . Scotland huffed and puffed but didn't really threaten a team with poor CM,CBs and goalie. He didn't make many subs cos he was comfortable for at least a draw , it was a Boring game but job done . No doubt a better team will expose Englands weaknesses and the game will be less boring but ultimately England will get beat.
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Can’t disagree with that. The commentary particularly from Dixon was absolutely cringeworthy. Going on about how talented Foden was and Sterling was having a great game.
It was embarrassing to listen to as well as watch
He's reverted back to being a City fan.
Maybe he meant Mings?
Clutching at straws as well, claiming penalty after penalty. How McCoist didn’t lamp him one, I’ll never know.
Think in the PL Sterling probably got a penalty, but VAR is not being operated by incompetents this time.
Yeh potentially. Mings is a poor player no doubt, but then a competent manager would have reintroduced Maguire yesterday anyway after he trained all week.
Haha
Rio's the worst. 
Forgot I was Rio Ferdinand. My apologies.
Yeah this group stage feels like that one except we won the first game rather than the last
Yeah but the FA won't appoint someone who isn't a yes man, a prime example of that was when Clough didn't get the job back in the 70s because he simply refused to toe the party line as that just wasn't his style
I have seen him enough in midfield.
Especially when Dixon asked him why didnt he take the penalty in 96 vs England. (McCoists answer was McAllister was captain and was his call) and when Dixon made his next stupid comment you could almost feel the difficulty McCoist had in not killing him.