Dean Henderson has to be our #1 next season? Poll added

[Offside]

Big decision changing your goalkeeper but Dave has been costing us far too long right now and we have the best English keeper there waiting in the wings. Could he handle the scrutiny though? It would be absolutely massive. Could definitely see the decision backfiring.

 

[sp_107]

Maybe Atletico will take him back on the cheap if they sell Oblak to Chelsea.

Considering his wages we'd probably have to let him leave for around 20 mil so he can receive a nice signing on fee at his new club.

wish we could have sold him when Madrid came in as he costs us 2 seasons in a row now. Can’t believe we put him on 400K a week

 

[RDCR07]

Maybe Atletico will take him back on the cheap if they sell Oblak to Chelsea.

Considering his wages we'd probably have to let him leave for around 20 mil so he can receive a nice signing on fee at his new club.

That’s a huge loss for us financially. He isn’t the worst GK in the world. Geez I know he has made mistakes but 20m? That’s ridiculous.

 

[#CR7]

That’s a huge loss for us financially. He isn’t the worst GK in the world. Geez I know he has made mistakes but 20m? That’s ridiculous.

I'm not saying he's that bad. I agree his market value would be way more than 20 mil if it wasn't for his contract.

However, the only way we get someone to buy him with the wages he's on is if we sell him cheap, which allows the buying party to give him a better contract or signing on fee.

The other option is we don't sell and have him eating up our wage bill on 350k a week and sitting on the bench. Neither of which is optimal for either party.

 

[Dante]

Is Henderson definitely the long term answer? No idea.

But I do think he can come into the side and improve us straight away, without it costing us a penny.

Buying a new goalie is often a gamble. At least this way, it's a free gamble. If it doesn't work out, we can buy somebody new next summer.

 

[Sagittarius13]

don't you think you are being harsh to De Gea? to me he's one of the best in the world and let's not forget that in almost one of two games he makes a world class save and suddenly with one or two lethal errors suddenly he's crap and deserve to leave. C'mon, the guy deserves our support more than ever.

To me the real error was start him in the first place, not by his performance but I think it was kind of rude to Romero, who was the natural choice but Ole made a real mess in this game.

 

[Dante]

Most Premier League goalkeepers are capable of making world class saves. We see it every week when we play against them.

But you don't judge a 'keeper solely by his best level. You judge him primarily by his sustained average level; then his best level is just the cherry on top.

De Gea's average level is barely worthy of a top 10 PL goalie. He's been overtaken by Henderson in that regard.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

My fear with Henderson is the same one I had with foster. It's one thing playing in a team that you will have to be in action a fair bit but when playing for us, it's much higher pressure and you need to be switched on the few times your called into action.

With that said, DDG has been abysmal and cost is big last season and can still cost us this season so it probably wouldn't get any worse.

 

[Infra-red]

Henderson is alright, so is De Gea. Unpopular opinion perhaps, but I think we need someone better than either of them.

 

[DRJosh]

This shouldn't be a case of Henderson or bust. Agree with @Infra-red , we need someone new in the mix. Romero isn't getting much game time for some reason and Ole may have his reasons for that. Henderson needs time to develop an understanding with our defenders.

We need someone a tad more commanding maybe even a veteran keeper looking for one last taste of top level football, just to provide some stability and added competition for places.

 

[hmchan]

Not sure why it takes so so long for people to realize de Gea's decline, but it's better late than never. The signs are there and it's just a matter of time he makes another howler. Yet those fanboys still naively expect him to return to his best, just because goalkeepers usually peak at 30? Not sure if Ole feels the same though, he gives him the ridiculous contract which means we're stuck with him, hopefully he wouldn't say "it never comes across my mind for one second dropping de Gea" bullshit this time.

 

[peridigm]

Henderson is alright, so is De Gea. Unpopular opinion perhaps, but I think we need someone better than either of them.

Could be the case but if United aren’t serious about Henderson he should be sold. If they are serious he should be brought back from loan and given every chance to be the regular keeper. Sell Romero and keep Grant as 3rd choice. I don’t agree with others stating that DDG should be dropped for the last two PL matches. You don’t do that when our CL hopes are on the line but if we manage to secure top 4 I’d have to problem with Ole giving Romero the remaining EL matches.

 

[meamth]

Henderson is alright, so is De Gea. Unpopular opinion perhaps, but I think we need someone better than either of them.

We can't afford to spend more than 50m on keeper next season.

Someone better than De Gea might cost so much more than Arrizabalaga.

 

[Dante]

My fear with Henderson is the same one I had with foster. It's one thing playing in a team that you will have to be in action a fair bit but when playing for us, it's much higher pressure and you need to be switched on the few times your called into action.

With that said, DDG has been abysmal and cost is big last season and can still cost us this season so it probably wouldn't get any worse.

The difference is that Henderson has been brought up through the United Academy and been coached by United coaches.

All of this is part of Henderson's training in way that Foster never would have been exposed to until he first stepped foot inside Old Trafford.

And although the Championship is of course a different kettle of fish from the Premier League, Henderson also has experience of facing the pressures of a title challenge at Sheffield United last season. It may not count for a lot, but it does count for something.

 

[sglowrider]

To me the real error was start him in the first place, not by his performance but I think it was kind of rude to Romero, who was the natural choice but Ole made a real mess in this game.

Thats just silly.

Whoever plays or gets selected should not be making either of those mistakes. That's what you expect from any goalie at this level.

 

[hmchan]

Could be the case but if United aren’t serious about Henderson he should be sold. If they are serious he should be brought back from loan and given every chance to be the regular keeper. Sell Romero and keep Grant as 3rd choice. I don’t agree with others stating that DDG should be dropped for the last two PL matches. You don’t do that when our CL hopes are on the line but if we manage to secure top 4 I’d have to problem with Ole giving Romero the remaining EL matches.

Last season we stuck with de Gea when our CL hopes were on the line, how did it go?

 

[SmallCaine]

Thats just silly.

Whoever plays or gets selected should not be making either of those mistakes. That's what you expect from any goalie at this level.

Romero has been our cup keeper, yes ddg should not be making these mistakes but at the same time ole had no reason to change the cup keeper either.

 

[Thiagoal]

I can’t think of any keeper in any English league that makes as many basic errors as DDG. At this stage it’s negligent to keep playing him as it could cost us massively

 

[Kostov]

Bring the kid back, and give them Kovar on loan instead.

 

[Matt007a]

DDG has always had deficiencies even at his best. He doesn’t collect anything than comes into the box, even when it’s 5 yards from his goal line. He has no presence in the box and his distribution is far from great.

Ive always forgiven that however because his shot stopping ability was off the charts. Now though he keeps letting these tame shots go right through him. It doesn’t matter if you’re making world class saves if you’re making regular errors. Goalkeeping is about consistency and reliability.

Even if his best day is beyond any keeper in the world, his worst day is too far below expectation and happens too regularly. You can forgive 2-3 errors a season but we are way beyond that now.

Henderson may not have the experience of playing at a big club or not having much work to do, but how can we ever test that concentration or ability to handle the pressure if he’s never given a chance? None of the “big” clubs are going to take a first choice keeper on loan so he can only get that experience by being our first choice.

 

[freeurmind]

I think it's time for Sergio to go in goal.

 

[Squeaky Bumtime]

If we do that what then with DDG? He just recently got a brand, new contract. I do think Ole should do with the GK position what he did in other positions, blood the youngster in and see how it goes. If anything he'll have Romero behind him. Although at this stage I wouldn't even mind seeing Romero in goal regulary.

 

[Spark]

I think it's time for Sergio to go in goal.

This. He has never let us down, albeit having had limited game time. Experienced international, too.

De Gea is probably knackered.

 

[gajender]

This. He has never let us down, albeit having had limited game time. Experienced international, too.

De Gea is probably knackered.

De Gea is done as top keeper but replacing him with Romero or even Henderson is sure shot way of sabotaging our next season before it even begins.
We need better keeper rather than wasting a year with Romero and Henderson and than going for top keeper I would rather skip that and straight away bring De Gea replacement for next season. If Chelsea are genuinely interested in Henderson I would sell him without doubt he has similar weaknesses as De Gea and with any team looking to play progressive football he would be found out.

 

[SecondFig]

Until yesterday I was fully in support of De Gea being no.1 next season - he's been in shaky form, but he's earned it over the last 5 years. Send Henderson on loan again, and while I like Romero, I don't think he's good enough to be our regular first choice. So keep him as 2nd-choice.

But, at this point I'd like to see Henderson brought back to compete for the place with De Gea. Dave needs to up his game, and maybe competition is it - and if it isn't, then give Henderson a chance.

 

[CG1010]

DDG's only strength has been his world class shot stopping abilities, as he has been relatively poor/average in organising defence, commanding the box, sweeping up and even his distribution has gone progressively worse. With his shot stopping becoming erratic (its not a case of 1-2 errors but over a prolonged period of time since the world cup), and him developing a reputation for bottling at key stages, we would be mad to not atleast consider our options.

My preferred approach would be to strip away DDG's automatic starter status and drop him for the next 2 games (Romero isn't that bad either). Next season we should give Henderson a fair chance to become first choice along with DDG. Somewhat the same approach SAF followed back in 2012-13 season with DDG and Lindegaard.

 

[Godfather]

So honest opinion on him as I've not seen much of Sheffield apart from their games against us. Is he good enough to be our Nr 1 next season?

 

[Revan]

De Gea is done as top keeper but replacing him with Romero or even Henderson is sure shot way of sabotaging our next season before it even begins.
We need better keeper rather than wasting a year with Romero and Henderson and than going for top keeper I would rather skip that and straight away bring De Gea replacement for next season. If Chelsea are genuinely interested in Henderson I would sell him without doubt he has similar weaknesses as De Gea and with any team looking to play progressive football he would be found out.

He is much better in the air than De Gea, but his passing is as meh, which means that the patience for him is gonna be short. Unlike De Gea he does not have God-like reflexes to make out for his other weaknesses. And obviously he makes errors too, which is to be expected for someone at this point of career.

 

[Godfather]

This. He has never let us down, albeit having had limited game time. Experienced international, too.

De Gea is probably knackered.

He is the opposite of De Gea in some ways. Good at crosses into our box but he has looked a bit dodgy on the line on some occasions..
Still I'd trust him. I actually feel more comfortable with him in goal than with DDG.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

If we're going down the route of finding a new #1 for the next 4 years +, shouldn't we maybe look more into Hendersons game?

De Gea gets a lot of critique for his ability with his feet, his dealing with crosses and more lately shot stopping

How's Henderson with these?

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Forget Henderson next season, Ole should want Romero to play the remaining couple games as I don't think there's much trust in De Gea with champions league on the line.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

At this point you have to play Henderson next season, de Gea mistakes are far too frequent.

 

[crossy1686]

So honest opinion on him as I've not seen much of Sheffield apart from their games against us. Is he good enough to be our Nr 1 next season?

No, he's a good goalkeeper, makes good saves, makes himself big, commands the area, catches crosses. He's a big part of the reason Sheff United are where they are.

However, he's emotional sometimes and tries too hard to make amends, which as a goalkeeper is dangerous. At United you don't get the opportunity to make these kinds of mistakes, you've got to be more grounded and reliable. However, if we're going to allow a goalkeeper to make mistakes and keep playing them, I'd rather it be Henderson than De Gea. At least Henderson will get better, De Gea's been on the recline for years.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

I've been in the DDG camp for so long but it really is at unforgivable point now though, however it isn't as simple as X is better than Y for me, who would our defence rather? Who do we alienate if we drop him as we know friendships/ cliques/ relationships of a team make more of a difference than you would expect.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

don't you think you are being harsh to De Gea? to me he's one of the best in the world and let's not forget that in almost one of two games he makes a world class save and suddenly with one or two lethal errors suddenly he's crap and deserve to leave. C'mon, the guy deserves our support more than ever.

To me the real error was start him in the first place, not by his performance but I think it was kind of rude to Romero, who was the natural choice but Ole made a real mess in this game.

Nobody who has watched him all season can come to this conclusion.

 

[Bondi77]

Maybe we can send De Gea out on loan to the Championship so he can have a season of the physical stuff and bring Hendo back as our number one.

 

[red woppit]

I've been in the DDG camp for so long but it really is at unforgivable point now though, however it isn't as simple as X is better than Y for me, who would our defence rather? Who do we alienate if we drop him as we know friendships/ cliques/ relationships of a team make more of a difference than you would expect.

Good point, but they are supposedly professionals, so that really shouldn't come into it. To me Henderson us a lot more vocal than De Gea, and I don't think would have any qualms about giving any of our defence a b*****king if needed, De Gea doesn't seem a really vocal keeper. I have always thought De Gea for another season, but I have my doubts now. I know Ole has publicly backed De Gea, but he doesn't throw players under a bus like some, and he needs him for two vital games.

 

[Tarrou]

That’s a huge loss for us financially. He isn’t the worst GK in the world. Geez I know he has made mistakes but 20m? That’s ridiculous.

to be honest, I'd be delighted if someone paid £20m for De Gea with the wages he's on

 

[SteveW]

Either Deano or a new signing. Only 2 conceivable options. Its completely unfair on the other players to have a goalkeeper that constantly undermines their efforts.

If we're serious about getting back to the top we need a good goalkeeper. Preferably one that does some of those extra things we've been doing without all those years such as command the area, organise and communicate with his defenders, distribute the ball well and generally calm everybody down. I don't know if Henderson is that player or not. He seems a bit like De Gea but still with his faculties intact.

Perhaps someone who watches Sheffield United regularly could confirm?

 

[SteveW]

to be honest, I'd be delighted if someone paid £20m for De Gea with the wages he's on

A Sanchez situation seems likely. Nobody will sign him on those wages without a loan to see if he is salvagable. So if we can get somebody to cover some of the wages and give him a chance to rehabilitate himself that might be the best bet. Inter would hardly do us another favour?