Marcus
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So this is really happening. Interesting to see how Ole manages De Gea and Henderson.
I dont think so. Both will stay here for the season and if De Gea doesnt improve, he should be off while losing the number 1 spot. I imagine that is how it will happen.I'm sure what our end game is here. Its ridiculous to have a second choice keeper earning 100K a week, and its a lot more ridiculous having a second choice keeper earning 350k a week (not sure if accurate). If we have given Henderson that contract, could we have a deal in place to sell De Gea?
It is not ideal, the wage they are on that is, but at one point meaning, this or next season we will have to keep them both and see who is more suitable to stay as number 1. Real did it, Barca did it, and Chelsea did the same and they managed well with two established GKs. I think it is wise to keep Henderson and let him fight it out with DDG. The problem is what we do with Romero?I'm sure what our end game is here. Its ridiculous to have a second choice keeper earning 100K a week, and its a lot more ridiculous having a second choice keeper earning 350k a week (not sure if accurate). If we have given Henderson that contract, could we have a deal in place to sell De Gea?
The problem is, who would want to sign a second choice goalkeeper on astronomical wages? Answer= nobody! Why we panicked so much into giving him that contract I’ll never knowI'm sure what our end game is here. Its ridiculous to have a second choice keeper earning 100K a week, and its a lot more ridiculous having a second choice keeper earning 350k a week (not sure if accurate). If we have given Henderson that contract, could we have a deal in place to sell De Gea?
Maybe because we see Henderson as our future no. 1, if not this coming season, then in an year or two, and we don't want him looking at opportunities elsewhere. If we sign him on this contract, he will see it as a clear sign that the club values him and does see him as a future no. 1.The problem is, who would want to sign a second choice goalkeeper on astronomical wages? Answer= nobody! Why we panicked so much into giving him that contract I’ll never know
It would be really foolish for us to sell De Gea this season. Why not have them both compete for the place and see at the end of the season who to keep. That's how big club behave.I'm sure what our end game is here. Its ridiculous to have a second choice keeper earning 100K a week, and its a lot more ridiculous having a second choice keeper earning 350k a week (not sure if accurate). If we have given Henderson that contract, could we have a deal in place to sell De Gea?
Im not sure rotating keepers is a very good idea. How can a player be confident if he's getting dropped once he makes a mistake? Im all for questioning if De Gea is still considered a long term solution here, but to have both on long contracts with high wages benefits no one, and will make it much harder to sell either of them once a decision is made.It would be really foolish for us to sell De Gea this season. Why not have them both compete for the place and see at the end of the season who to keep. That's how big club behave.
Romero is on 70k week. This is what happens when you have top class players fighting for a positionI'm sure what our end game is here. Its ridiculous to have a second choice keeper earning 100K a week, and its a lot more ridiculous having a second choice keeper earning 350k a week (not sure if accurate). If we have given Henderson that contract, could we have a deal in place to sell De Gea?
All of those examples led to one of the GK being unhappy and made their feelings known to the public. It always ended with the club keeping the younger one and letting the elder one go. Can't imagine the drama happens at United which will definitely be intensified by the media and how we could possibly get rid of de Gea.It is not ideal, the wage they are on that is, but at one point meaning, this or next season we will have to keep them both and see who is more suitable to stay as number 1. Real did it, Barca did it, and Chelsea did the same and they managed well with two established GKs. I think it is wise to keep Henderson and let him fight it out with DDG. The problem is what we do with Romero?
Doubtful. Giving Henderson a longer contract protects his transfer fee. Makes bad financial sense to save money on his salary, only for him to walk for a fraction of his transfer value in a years time, or for free in two years time.Have a feeling we’ll look back on this and wonder why in a global pandemic we decided to pay this much to keep a GK whilst potentially pissing off a world class one.
Unless he’s taking over next season it’s a ludicrous contract.Doubtful. Giving Henderson a longer contract protects his transfer fee. Makes bad financial sense to save money on his salary, only for him to walk for a fraction of his transfer value in a years time, or for free in two years time.
Just think we could sell him and invest in priority positionsHenderson is going to get a shot at being the number 1 and it's going to take a couple years to be clear if he's good enough to be relied upon at this level. Let alone being world class...we don't need a world class goalkeeper, although it doesn't hurt. He is the future. DDG isn't going to resign a new contract at the same or near the same level of his current contract....and its not coming with the assurance of being the clear number 1.
Well GK is a priority within 2 years, so the club has been proactive and has an in house solution that is now.Unless he’s taking over next season it’s a ludicrous contract.
Just think we could sell him and invest in priority positions
Not really. He could move to another club in two years time for nothing and get a big sign on fee somewhere else. That gets factored into his valuation.Unless he’s taking over next season it’s a ludicrous contract.
GKs can and do play to 36+ easily at a very good level.Well GK is a priority within 2 years, so the club has been proactive and has an in house solution that is now.
Just think Hendo should be loaned or soldNot really. He could move to another club in two years time for nothing and get a big sign on fee somewhere else. That gets factored into his valuation.
I know you don’t rate him for some reason, but he’s still worth more to us on a longer contract, wherever he goes next year.Just think Hendo should be loaned or sold
No I absolutely rate him.I know you don’t rate him for some reason, but he’s still worth more to us on a longer contract, wherever he goes next year.
As I said, his salary is a reflection of his market rate. He’s not going to sign a new contact for too much less money then he could get elsewhere via a big signing on fee as a free agent.No I absolutely rate him.
He’s had a terrific season at Sheffield but to put him on 100k before he’s done anything for United on the off chance he’ll be good enough to surpass De Gea is ridiculous.
We could sell him or use him to bring in outfield players rather than rot him or De Gea on the bench for a season.
De Gea could quite easily last another 5/6 seasons I’m looking at the next 3 seasons as the priority and I don’t see Henderson being a vital cog in that machine either presently or in the next 3 seasons.As I said, his salary is a reflection of his market rate. He’s not going to sign a new contact for too much less money then he could get elsewhere via a big signing on fee as a free agent.
Anyway I think the club should be thinking ahead more then one season at a time to be honest. There’s a question mark over DDG, and Henderson is on our books right now. If De Gea doesn’t improve next season, we’re then looking for a new goalkeeper having sold a good one 12 months earlier. That would be a pretty stupid position to end up in.
I don't believe DDG can last another 5 years at Manchester United as the number 1 with those unjustified wages. He shouldn't be the highest paid player on the club anymore and I really hope he has a bounce back year, akin to Schmicheal's last season with United.De Gea could quite easily last another 5/6 seasons I’m looking at the next 3 seasons as the priority and I don’t see Henderson being a vital cog in that machine either presently or in the next 3 seasons.
We could equally end up in a situation where De Gea flourishes again and Henderson either wastes a year on the bench or helps some either side while we fork out 100k for the pleasure?
It’s also worth pointing out that despite the narrative De Gea ended the season on 2.7 PSXGA so not exactly a terrible season by any standard and not something to be concerned about.
We can win the league with De Gea we’ve done it before but Henderson adapting to the massive pressure of United including the scrutiny that comes with it isn’t a certainty.
I know for a fact Henderson has made just as many point losing mistakes as De Gea yet due to his lower profile they get ignored and aren’t back page headlines.
This.
Man Utd are in 4 competitions next season, there's no need to sell De Gea. I'd be the first to admit he had a below average performance this season but De Gea never left us nor complained when he was the best player in the squad for about 3 seasons back to back. He was loyal to us and it's only fair if we return that gesture by giving him another season to prove himself.Can't have De Gea as no 2.(especially on his salary).
He is either no 1 or we sell him.
Or, one of the PSG keepers have a mare and they go for DDG leaving Dean as the first choice.It seems Henderson may be in the squad next season. If so, he should be given a legitimate shot. There’s no sense bringing him back unless you’re prepared to give him an actual opportunity to win the job. Otherwise, he’d be better off playing every match out on loan. This could be a smart move, provided Ole is prepared to be ruthless if need be.
After DDG's performances over the last two seasons, an argument could be made that goalkeeper is a priority position. And Henderson might be the answer.Just think we could sell him and invest in priority positions
There is no contract more ridiculous than the one de Gea got.Have a feeling we’ll look back on this and wonder why in a global pandemic we decided to pay this much to keep a GK whilst potentially pissing off a world class one.
The problem with him isn't that he doesn't rate Henderson, it's that he refuses to accept the decline of de Gea and still thinks he's world class.I know you don’t rate him for some reason, but he’s still worth more to us on a longer contract, wherever he goes next year.
You seem weirdly threatened by Henderson. There’s nothing wrong with giving a young player a chance to compete with the first teamer, and it makes financial sense to tie Henderson down. If De Gea is the better keeper, what’s the problem?De Gea could quite easily last another 5/6 seasons I’m looking at the next 3 seasons as the priority and I don’t see Henderson being a vital cog in that machine either presently or in the next 3 seasons.
We could equally end up in a situation where De Gea flourishes again and Henderson either wastes a year on the bench or helps some either side while we fork out 100k for the pleasure?
It’s also worth pointing out that despite the narrative De Gea ended the season on 2.7 PSXGA so not exactly a terrible season by any standard and not something to be concerned about.
We can win the league with De Gea we’ve done it before but Henderson adapting to the massive pressure of United including the scrutiny that comes with it isn’t a certainty.
I know for a fact Henderson has made just as many point losing mistakes as De Gea yet due to his lower profile they get ignored and aren’t back page headlines.