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1 year loan deal, hopefully he will have a loan spell like he had with Sheffield United.
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I think that’s what both sides will want.Best case scenario is he does really well, Forest stay up, and they buy him.
I'm assuming there's no loan fee involved, so it's not that bad, we could have easily asked for a few million there.How in the hell are Forest able to cover those wages.
They have a billionaire owner i'm pretty sure. PL money is a big boost in finances also.How in the hell are Forest able to cover those wages.
Paying him 5m, albeit for only one season is hardly going to break the bank for a PL club. Each position in the PL is reportedly worth 2.2m. If he helps them finish 2 or 3 places higher then his wages are covered.How in the hell are Forest able to cover those wages.
It's just short of 6 million in wages over a season. I think they can afford that considering they likely paid no loan fee.How in the hell are Forest able to cover those wages.
Surely the best case scenario is he turns out to be the next Schmikes and comes back to take the #1 spot?Best case scenario is he does really well, Forest stay up, and they buy him.
DDG has been our POTY for many seasons. Last year he was very good too. He has consistently performed in one of the top team in the PL. Henderson has only 1 good season for Sheffield United.I still think he's a better all round keeper than DDG - unlike many here, I'd like him to have such a good season that he threatens DDG next year. He was outstanding at Sheff Utd
That's the second best scenario. The best is that he does so well that we bring him back here to be our #1.Best case scenario is he does really well, Forest stay up, and they buy him.
In the last four seasons De Gea has had three terrible seasons and a fairly good one. If you have to go back half a decade for him to be consistently good then there are huge question marks.DDG has been our POTY for many seasons. Last year he was very good too. He has consistently performed in one of the top team in the PL. Henderson has only 1 good season for Sheffield United.
Hmm... Three terrible season and yet good enough to keep Henderson on the bench. And I don't remember DDG had three terrible season at all.In the last four seasons De Gea has had three terrible seasons and a fairly good one. If you have to go back half a decade for him to be consistently good then there are huge question marks.
In those same four seasons Henderson has had two good seasons for Sheffield United (one in the Championship, one in the Premiership) and a fairly good few months for us in the only time he got a run. Obviously for most of it he wasn't dealing with the same level of expectation and media pressure as what De Gea was, but he did well with what he had.
The only time they were at the club at the same time as each other during those three seasons, De Gea was the one who ended up on the bench for the final few months of the season. And that was with Ole who was loyal to a fault. It appeared Henderson would also start last season as our #1 but he got a bad case of Covid that he struggled to get over, which opened the door for De Gea to take the spot back and he proceeded to have his first fairly good season in ages. Even then he was really only good in the first half of the season, and was fairly average in the second half.Hmm... Three terrible season and yet good enough to keep Henderson on the bench. And I don't remember DDG had three terrible season at all.
You can have your opinions. The facts are during those "terrible three seasons" he either put Henderson on loans at other club or on the bench in Man Utd. Certainly there was never a time Henderson is considered number 1 in Man Utd. Last season he got all the time to convince Rangnick as many said that Henderson is more suitable for modern high line system. Again, Rangnick preferred DDG as undisputed number 1.The only time they were at the club at the same time as each other during those three seasons, De Gea was the one who ended up on the bench for the final few months of the season. And that was with Ole who was loyal to a fault. It appeared Henderson would also start last season as our #1 but he got a bad case of Covid that he struggled to get over, which opened the door for De Gea to take the spot back and he proceeded to have his first fairly good season in ages. Even then he was really only good in the first half of the season, and was fairly average in the second half.
De Gea absolutely was terrible for three seasons, starting from the 2018 World Cup.
18/19 - He was 'only' average for most of the season, but then utterly collapsed in the final few months of the season and was the main reason we didn't overtake Arsenal and Spurs for the CL spot. Absolute worst form of his career.
19/20 - Not only was he poor in the league, but Ole bought him in to the team at the semi-final stage of Europa, FA and EFL Cups. We lost them all, with him making terrible mistakes in three of the five goals we conceded in the first two (can't blame him for the EFL loss though).
20/21 - Poor all season, to the extent he ultimately lost his place to Henderson.
United only thought Schmeichel good enough to get when he was 28 y.o. (from Brondby) where VdS was coming here at 35 y.o. (from Fulham).Hopefully he has a good season, increases his sale price, we cash in next season and replace De Gea with a top tier goalkeeper talent.
Henderson is good, but nothing he's shown in his career thus far suggests he's the standard of goalkeeper Manchester United would normally bring in to be their #1. He got his chance by virtue of already being at the club and De Gea being in poor form. And, for whatever reason, he didn't take that chance well enough to ultimately convince Ole/Rangnick not to revert to De Gea once De Gea's form picked up. Add the rumours that he wasn't always the most positive presence in the dressing room and here we are.
Key point is that he isn't some young prospect, he'll turn 26 during the next season. However good he is now is pretty much as good as he's going to be. If the club don't think that's enough right now, it shouldn't be enough later either.
It like signing a player for £5 Million and not having to pay his wages . I’m sure it’s manageableHow in the hell are Forest able to cover those wages.
Nonsense, most keepers don't really peak until they hit late their 20s to mid 30s.Hopefully he has a good season, increases his sale price, we cash in next season and replace De Gea with a top tier goalkeeper talent.
Henderson is good, but nothing he's shown in his career thus far suggests he's the standard of goalkeeper Manchester United would normally bring in to be their #1. He got his chance by virtue of already being at the club and De Gea being in poor form. And, for whatever reason, he didn't take that chance well enough to ultimately convince Ole/Rangnick not to revert to De Gea once De Gea's form picked up. Add the rumours that he wasn't always the most positive presence in the dressing room and here we are.
Key point is that he isn't some young prospect, he'll turn 26 during the next season. However good he is now is pretty much as good as he's going to be. If the club don't think that's enough right now, it shouldn't be enough later either.
Why would he need to be exceptional to force his way in? He’s contracted for 22/23, De Gea isn’t.His career so far has been a bit odd. Stop start and he will surely want to settle. I'm not sure I'd want to be getting loaned out all the time if I back myself as a top PL keeper. This feels like a very make or break loan. He'll have to be exceptional to force his way in, if he is simply decent I expect we'll see a buyer next summer.
Because if the manager believed he was a better option than DeGea he simply wouldn't be going on loan and therefore whether DeGea has a contract or not it doesn't mean he's going to alight on Henderson. That suggests to me that he will have to impress to ward of the possibility that we sign another first choice goalkeeper.Why would he need to be exceptional to force his way in? He’s contracted for 22/23, De Gea isn’t.
Don't be surprised if we end up battling with Forest..Any clean sheets vs Liverpool, Spurs , Chelsea and/or Arsenal will all help our cause. Come on Deano!
I really hope we do sign a new goalkeeper sooner rather than later but logistically, with Ten Hag having a year to see De Gea's major flaws up close and him being out of contract at the end of the season, it would be ridiculous to then extend his contract and as such by default Henderson would be ahead of a goalkeeper no longer at the club in the pecking order.Because if the manager believed he was a better option than DeGea he simply wouldn't be going on loan and therefore whether DeGea has a contract or not it doesn't mean he's going to alight on Henderson. That suggests to me that he will have to impress to ward of the possibility that we sign another first choice goalkeeper.