Ali Dia
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Wasn’t he stitched up after one of our recent games? Obviously has a high pain threshold and is a game lad. He’s doing everything he can to take his chance in the team. I like that.
I thought the opposite yesterday - I thought he was really poor defensively and by some distance our weakest defender, and made errors that contributed directly to several chances for the opposition, including their biggest one in the first half. It's his lack of defensive control that will (or should) keep him out of the team. Offensively he shows enough to get by (at least for starters), but it's not nearly enough to compensate for his defensive shortcomings.I'm probably his biggest critic but yesterday was solid from him. That said he's far from a United RB. Too weak in his offensive abilities.
I never really get these stats, aren't a lot of them being duplicated? 16 ball recoveries includes the 3 tackles and 3 interceptions doesn't it? 7 ball clearances includes the 3 aerial duals?Tweet
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I'll be honest, I wrote Dalot off years ago. I thought he was a rubbish defender with a bit of a shimmy and a half-decent cross.
I've been surprised by him looking a competent option in the Premier League.
Does he look like the second coming of Gary Neville? No. However, he's well defended some good players recently. Plus he's still getting forward and, even if his crossing remains inconsistent, it gives defenders enough to think about to allow Mason more space.
I'm pleased to have been proven wrong about him being not up to English football. I hope he proves me even more wrong by becoming a top level right back.
Point is, invest on him and it will pay back. We gave 2 years to AWB. This guy deserves atleast half a season.I'm probably his biggest critic but yesterday was solid from him. That said he's far from a United RB. Too weak in his offensive abilities.
He had the best defensive stats in the team yesterday. Most interceptions, most clearances, 2nd most tackles, 3rd most aerial duels won. You're obsessing over 1 bad pass at the start and ignoring the rest of the game.I thought the opposite yesterday - I thought he was really poor defensively and by some distance our weakest defender, and made errors that contributed directly to several chances for the opposition, including their biggest one in the first half. It's his lack of defensive control that will (or should) keep him out of the team. Offensively he shows enough to get by (at least for starters), but it's not nearly enough to compensate for his defensive shortcomings.
Are people who prefer Dalot and Telles over AWB/Shaw anti-English?Some of you all must be brexiters or something they way you pine for AWB and Shaw.
Dalot did well, he won the ball at the back post from crosses 4-5 times, tracked back well, and tidied things up repeatedly. He made the most interceptions and clearances in the team, and the 2nd most tackles. A mistake in the first half doesn't mean everything else was shit.
I dont see anyone who blindly insists Dalot and Telles should play no matter how badly they perform so I'm not sure those you're referring to exist.Are people who prefer Dalot and Telles over AWB/Shaw anti-English?
And I don't see anyone who has made the opposite claim either.I dont see anyone who blindly insists Dalot and Telles should play no matter how badly they perform so I'm not sure those you're referring to exist.
There are plenty of people on this forum, I am assuming yourself included, that have Shaw and AWB down as our fullbacks every single game no matter form or fixture, that 10 minutes into any game Dalot or Telles play say how shit our fullbacks are. Those people do not care about performances or rewarding form. Your reversal simply doesn't happen on this forum. Nobody champions Dalot and Telles to start every game regardless of form.And I don't see anyone who has made the opposite claim either.
You were suggesting people might be pining for Shaw and AWB because they are Brexiters. By that logic if someone has spent the last 1-2 years pining over Dalot and Telles to get games ahead of two English players surely it's because they are anti-English yes?
Both suggestions are equally ridiculous.
I am not obsessing over a single pass, and would not make that judgment if I had not repeatedly noted negatives during the game. But it is of course possible that I misjudge. I'm happy to check my impression against the stats, if you could point me in the direction of a handy source that gives relevant stats on a player-by-player basis?He had the best defensive stats in the team yesterday. Most interceptions, most clearances, 2nd most tackles, 3rd most aerial duels won. You're obsessing over 1 bad pass at the start and ignoring the rest of the game.
We're vulnerable on the counter with or without Dalot so this is irrelevant + it's hard to be an actual fullback with someone has defensively lacklustre as Greenwood ahead of you.Defensively he was impressive but let’s not forget that a fairly unforgivable brainfart from him gifted Brentford one of their best chances. Plus those breakaway chances we keep conceding from our own corners in recent games all feature Dalot as the defender who is supposed to hang back to prevent them. So that’s not great either.
Agree with that. Like his fight and spirit, not letting go of his place so easily.Wasn’t he stitched up after one of our recent games? Obviously has a high pain threshold and is a game lad. He’s doing everything he can to take his chance in the team. I like that.
Quote one person who has said Shaw and AWB should start regardless of form then, this should be good.There are plenty of people on this forum, I am assuming yourself included, that have Shaw and AWB down as our fullbacks every single game no matter form or fixture, that 10 minutes into any game Dalot or Telles play say how shit our fullbacks are. Those people do not care about performances or rewarding form.
Your reversal simply doesn't happen on this forum. Nobody champions Dalot and Telles to start every game regardless of form.
I am assuming yourself included, that have Shaw and AWB down as our fullbacks every single game no matter form or fixture,
Found them om Fbref.He had the best defensive stats in the team yesterday. Most interceptions, most clearances, 2nd most tackles, 3rd most aerial duels won. You're obsessing over 1 bad pass at the start and ignoring the rest of the game.