[stevoc]

It's two centerbacks. Not just Yoro. But Yoro plus de Ligt. Instead of arguing back and forth, here's a clip of the goal. Two of our main centerbacks couldn't deal with a single player for a standard cross.

I'm not saying it wasn't poor but it happens. Probably every game to every virtually centreback. That doesn't excuse other members of the back line going to sleep.

And now you start with 8 years nonsense, and showing your lack of objectivity. Dalot was pretty good against Liverpool, and it's only a few games ago.

Oh please, 'lack of objectivity' give me a break mate. I've been watching the guy for 8 years, that's why I bring it up and in that time he hasn't really kicked on outside of a purple patch in Ten Hag's 2nd season.

 

[stevoc]

Yet still he is here stinking up the place, no wonder this team is so prone to lapses of concentration with him around. Just have some balls Ruben and drop your Portuguese lovechild permanently

He's certainly not alone but it is a bit mad that he's survived so many managers and rebuilds despite being fairly average.

 

[croadyman]

He's certainly not alone but it is a bit mad that he's survived so many managers and rebuilds despite being fairly average.

Unfortunately because he rarely gets injured

 

[stevoc]

Unfortunately because he rarely gets injured

He does have that going for him I suppose. I have nothing against him, he seems a nice lad. But he's just one of those players you get sick of watching over a number of years be average and yet stumble on as not only a squad member but more often than not first choice. He's not a great Right back never mind a good left wing back.

 

[Isotope]

I'm not saying it wasn't poor but it happens. Probably every game to every virtually centreback. That doesn't excuse other members of the back line going to sleep.



Oh please, 'lack of objectivity' give me a break mate. I've been watching the guy for 8 years, that's why I bring it up and in that time he hasn't really kicked on outside of a purple patch in Ten Hag's 2nd season.

Contrary to your believe, two centerbacks failed to mark a single player doesn't happen often. If it happens, it's a bad mistake. Dalot isn't the only one that should be crucified for that 2nd goal.

This doesn't mean that I like Dalot as LWB, nor any position as wingbacks. As fullback, he's still serviceable as backup.

 

[golden_blunder]

Yet still he is here stinking up the place, no wonder this team is so prone to lapses of concentration with him around. Just have some balls Ruben and drop your Portuguese lovechild permanently

Lovechild? Come on, do better

 

[croadyman]

Lovechild? Come on, do better

Well why not have the balls to drop him permanently

 

[stevoc]

Contrary to your believe, two centerbacks failed to mark a single player doesn't happen often. If it happens, it's a bad mistake. Dalot isn't the only one that should be crucified for that 2nd goal.

I never actually said he was though.

This doesn't mean that I like Dalot as LWB, nor any position as wingbacks. As fullback, he's still serviceable as backup.

We don't play with fullbacks though and I think we're at the stage where we should be moving Dalot on. I don't think he's good enough even as a back-up in all honestly even if we did swtich back to 433.

 

[golden_blunder]

Well why not have the balls to drop him permanently

We don’t have many choices and he’s always fit I would say are better reasons than starting a crap narrative about being a love child. That’s just childish

 

[Isotope]

I never actually said he was though.



We don't play with fullbacks though and I think we're at the stage where we should be moving Dalot on. I don't think he's good enough even as a back-up in all honestly even if we did swtich back to 433.

Agreed that we should sell Dalot, if it means we're getting a better FB/WB. But not for a random 20 y.o. project player though.

 

[croadyman]

We don’t have many choices and he’s always fit I would say are better reasons than starting a crap narrative about being a love child. That’s just childish

Why can't we find a decent LWB in academy

 

[croadyman]

Agreed that we should sell Dalot, if it means we're getting a better FB/WB. But not for a random 20 y.o. project player though.

Just boot him out and worry afterwards

 

[Isotope]

Just boot him out and worry afterwards

You still need players for squad depth. Also it's not easy to find good LWB. People scream for Dorgu to start, forgetting that he's been awful when started games this season.

 

[croadyman]

You still need players for squad depth. Also it's not easy to find good LWB. People scream for Dorgu to start, forgetting that he's been awful when started games this season.

Call someone up from Academy to back up Dorgu

 

[Remember the geese]

You still need players for squad depth. Also it's not easy to find good LWB. People scream for Dorgu to start, forgetting that he's been awful when started games this season.

Dalot doesn't offer us anything. He's a poor wing-back. We need a starter on the left and a good deputy/competitor for the right. Dalot is neither of those things.

 

[croadyman]

Dalot doesn't offer us anything. He's a poor wing-back. We need a starter on the left and a good deputy/competitor for the right. Dalot is neither of those things.

Exactly defending the indefensible

 

[golden_blunder]

Call someone up from Academy to back up Dorgu

Who?

 

[croadyman]

Who?

Jeez not anyone there, ok get Leon back in squad

 

[golden_blunder]

Jeez not anyone there, ok get Leon back in squad

A raw 18 year old

I think at the moment we are not really in a position to do much at LWB other than Dorgu, Dalot. We simply don’t have anyone else that can confidently play there with any consistency

 

[croadyman]

A raw 18 year old

I think at the moment we are not really in a position to do much at LWB other than Dorgu, Dalot. We simply don’t have anyone else that can confidently play there with any consistency

Prefer a raw 18 year old with development than someone who can't concentrate to save his life

 

[BorisManUtd]

As Portuguese International who did well at Milan I believe he has a decent reputation around Europe so hopefully we can sell for solid fee. Summer 2026 is definitely time to part ways.

 

[elmo]

Dalot causes us many problems, but literally two games ago Dorgu instigated a situation that almost cost us a win while we were 3-0 up. Of course a lot of stuff happened after his mistake, including refereeing mistakes, but it was his awful pass that started it all.

I have a feeling we just remember more Dalot mistakes, because he has a lot more games for us and is starting currently. Both are bad, and I'm not at all certain that we would be better with Dorgu starting.

Dalot does the same shit every time he plays.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Dalot does the same shit every time he plays.

Yeah, and maybe you’d say the same about Dorgu if he played consistently. That’s my feeling.

 

[FlawlessVictory88]

Yeah, and maybe you’d say the same about Dorgu if he played consistently. That’s my feeling.

I think the difference is Dorgu is only 20 and at least has the potential to be a good player, Dalot is just shit.

 

[Mike Smalling]

I think the difference is Dorgu is only 20 and at least has the potential to be a good player, Dalot is just shit.

He has more room to grow, that's undeniable. My concern with him is that he seems fundamentally not very technically gifted - something that I don't believe will change.

Anyway, at this point I'm not strongly for Dalot or Dorgu starting the next game. Whatever Amorim chooses there is a down-side.

 

[lex talionis]

It’s already past the ‘bad run of form’ stage, he’s been at this level his entire United career except one season were he raised it enough he actually looked decent.

I'm not convinced yet that Dalot has collapsed as a footballer. His form has been horrendous, and I suspect even his mum would agree, but we've seen better from him before. He's had games where he has contributed in attack but not in defense, and in defense but not in attack...but it was only in this season where he's been poor in attack and defense. The way I see it, the wingback position is just too demanding for him.

 

[Rossa]

I didn't watch the game, but he's a right back playing as a LWB. Put Neville as a LWB and think he'll do well? I'd even argue that arguably the best RB in the world, Hakimi, would struggle at LWB. That being said, it doesn't defer from the fact that Dalot's major gripe is and seems to forever be his lapses in concentration. That one season he did very well, his intensity level was much improved, but now he's back to his lackadaisical ways - infuriating!

 

[Pav1878]

He has more room to grow, that's undeniable. My concern with him is that he seems fundamentally not very technically gifted - something that I don't believe will change.

Anyway, at this point I'm not strongly for Dalot or Dorgu starting the next game. Whatever Amorim chooses there is a down-side.

Makes me wonder why we didn’t just keep Amass this season or even play Shaw there for now.

 

[Lennon7]

Makes me wonder why we didn’t just keep Amass this season or even play Shaw there for now.

I reckon that’s what he might go when Martinez is back and fit. Shaw has looked very sharp and must quicker than he has been in the last few games and that left side desperately needs solidifying. Makes perfect sense tbh

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

I'm not convinced yet that Dalot has collapsed as a footballer. His form has been horrendous, and I suspect even his mum would agree, but we've seen better from him before. He's had games where he has contributed in attack but not in defense, and in defense but not in attack...but it was only in this season where he's been poor in attack and defense. The way I see it, the wingback position is just too demanding for him.

We’ll have to agree to disagree, holding onto players like Dalot for this long are what has caused a lot of our issues over the last 10yrs. He’s just not good enough either defensively or offensively.

 

[Pav1878]

I reckon that’s what he might go when Martinez is back and fit. Shaw has looked very sharp and must quicker than he has been in the last few games and that left side desperately needs solidifying. Makes perfect sense tbh

Yeah shaw at LWB with Martinez at LCB could be solid.

 

[Oranges038]

I didn't watch the game, but he's a right back playing as a LWB. Put Neville as a LWB and think he'll do well? I'd even argue that arguably the best RB in the world, Hakimi, would struggle at LWB. That being said, it doesn't defer from the fact that Dalot's major gripe is and seems to forever be his lapses in concentration. That one season he did very well, his intensity level was much improved, but now he's back to his lackadaisical ways - infuriating!

Gary no, Phil yes.

Someone like Phil Neville was 10x the footballer Dalot ever will be.

He's just not good enough to be a PL footballer.

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

As Portuguese International who did well at Milan I believe he has a decent reputation around Europe so hopefully we can sell for solid fee. Summer 2026 is definitely time to part ways.

He's going nowhere while Ruben is manager. He's part of the "leadership group".

 

[Rossa]

Gary no, Phil yes.

Someone like Phil Neville was 10x the footballer Dalot ever will be.

He's just not good enough to be a PL footballer.

I agree. He had one good season, but other than that he’s had some moments but ultimately not good enough. Not enough intensity.

He has all the tools to be good, but he lacks concentration and intensity. Think he would do quite well in Italy, but a lwb he is not.

 

[Oranges038]

I agree. He had one good season, but other than that he’s had some moments but ultimately not good enough. Not enough intensity.

He has all the tools to be good, but he lacks concentration and intensity. Think he would do quite well in Italy, but a lwb he is not.

He's not a full back fullstop, he cannot defend for shit.

7 years, 7 fecking years and he's still doing the same dumb shit game after game. Should have been shipped out long ago.

 

[Rossa]

He's not a full back fullstop, he cannot defend for shit.

7 years, 7 fecking years and he's still doing the same dumb shit game after game. Should have been shipped out long ago.

Not arguing against you. He’s shown himself not good enough. Decent enough back up as he can play both sides and is always fit, but he’s not starter material.

 

[Isotope]

Well why not have the balls to drop him permanently

That was the intent. When AMorim started, he had Dalot as LWB, and then recognized that he's not up to standard. Hence, we got Dorgu for LWB. LWB was Amorim's first signing, over other positions.

The notion that Dalot will always play as LWB, just because he's Portuguese/lovechild, is easily dismissed by a solid fact.

 

[croadyman]

That was the intent. When AMorim started, he had Dalot as LWB, and recognized that he's not up to standard. Hence, we got Dorgu for LWB. LWB was Amorim's first signing, over other positions.

The notion that Dalot will always play, just because he's Protuguesse/lovechild, is easily dismissed by a solid fact.

Why not just give Leon his minutes, please Ruben

 

[Isotope]

Why not just give Leon his minutes, please Ruben

That's a solid shout. Although Leon wasn't that impressive in Summer friendlies, and he's just 18 y.o. So who knows. But he might be in at some point, if things don't improve.

 

[Isotope]

Dalot doesn't offer us anything. He's a poor wing-back. We need a starter on the left and a good deputy/competitor for the right. Dalot is neither of those things.

Agreed on all those. Said it before, we should sell him if we can get a good LWB, but not another project like Dorgu.