We better have plans to sign one in January, otherwise seeing him until May is gonna be hard watch
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Hopefully. Although it will be hard to find someone good but cheap on Winter window.
Honestly I would take a slightly more experienced version of Leon, surely that player is out there somewhere
What we do agree on, I think, is that Dalot isn't good enough to be a regular starter either at fullback or wingback for a club which aspires win lift a PL trophy. But I do believe he has been better before he's been this season and that he would be a decent -- nothing more than decent (you can think of Diogo Dalot as a poor man's Phil Neville) -- squad man for a club that's in the thick of multiple competitions.
But we are not such a club right now and since the most we can aspire to is a top four finish and a run in the FA Cup, managing Dalot and Dorgu at LWB is good enough for now. That said, the 343 doesn't suit the players at all, which I realize is a different topic but it relates to Dalot as we're asking him to perform in a role he just can't pull off, and if you look closely at our play during this nice run of 10 points of 12 we have scored goals despite the tactics and not because of them. Casemiro's goal came of a corner kick and Amad's goal was a wonderstrike off a clearance. All of which points back to Dalot and that what Amorim's coaches should be focusing on with him right now is not his overall game, which will never improve as a wingback. but his concentration on balls into the box. His ball watching on the second Forest goal was one for the ages. That has to be a fixable lapse of concentration, but if only if the coaching staff drill it into him and nothing else.
More than any other position, I suspect we agree, our weakness is at LWB. We're virtually down to 10 men when Dalot or Dorgu is on the pitch.
He will be kept cos of his versatility and cos of the AFCoN. I do think he plays better on the right (obviously) but he does have some stinkers. He should defo be subbed when we have options (like we did on the weekend). Maybe with Martinez back and possibly Malacia back, we could see a bit more fight and competition which could reduce complacency.
But we should have sold him under Ole when he went on loan. He had a nice little spell before the world cup, but that was about it.
But we should have sold him under Ole when he went on loan. He had a nice little spell before the world cup, but that was about it.
I find it a bit ironic that we sold AWB instead of Dalot, and i assume everyone agreed that was the correct move. But then we're now watching how AWB playing as wing-back, and he's been better than any in our squad
(except Amad, which is a different type of wingback).And he'd probably be our best RCB also, where all he needs to do is just defending.
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He’s the weakest link.
For all the praise Amorim has had in the last few weeks, if he doesn’t bench Dalot now, it’s a red flag.
For all the praise Amorim has had in the last few weeks, if he doesn’t bench Dalot now, it’s a red flag.
Who should he play instead?
Now that Martinez is back, perfect time to start him and move Shaw to LWB.
Or Mazroui at RWB and Amad at LWB? Not sure.
Can’t be worse than what Dalot is serving up.
Licha just came out of a second major injury, surely it's not wise to put him in a position that involves roaring up and down the flank?
Maz has actually been consistently bad at wing back roles for us too. Dorgu is probably still our worst option, my annoyance is we didn't invest 30m better in the position.
I still think Dalot has a decent level at times at RB. Unfortunately for him Amad is going to play most games there.
At LWB Dalot stinks and it seems a crucial area of the pitch for us. Hopefully we do try Shaw out there and if he can't cut it pick one up in January. Robinson seems ideal to me but the club might think he's too old to pay a substantial fee.
At LWB Dalot stinks and it seems a crucial area of the pitch for us. Hopefully we do try Shaw out there and if he can't cut it pick one up in January. Robinson seems ideal to me but the club might think he's too old to pay a substantial fee.
I said Shaw at LWB
Sorry, I think that's still a risk for the same reason as Licha though.
Yeah was so gutted Milan didn't buy him permanently, unfortunately much like our fanbase they could see he wasn't up to it as a wing back.
I said it when AWB was sold, the only reason he was sold over Dalot was because nobody else wanted Dalot.I find it a bit ironic that we sold AWB instead of Dalot, and i assume everyone agreed that was the correct move. But then we're now watching how AWB playing as wing-back, and he's been better than any in our squad
And he'd probably be our best RCB also, where all he needs to do is just defending.
Dalot is our worst option. By some distance
No chance. Dorgu is equally bad or worse.
I missed the Forest game, but this season, I was hopeful he'll regain his good form from 2023/2024 season, where he was actually one of our best players in that season, so it seems that good season was the anomaly and he has reverted back to type, which is being shit and useless.
Disagree. Dalot has been awful this season. Dorgu is not the one either but he's looked marginally better and more threatening going forward than Dalot, albeit just as suspect defensively.
Dorgu is even more uncomfortable than Dalot is going forward. It's astounding how limited he is as a footballer to be honest. Dalot is a lot better on the right than on the left, I feel more comfortable him there than Dorgu.
Dorgu has time on his side to develop but as it stands he's even worse than I thought he'd be before he joined, and my expectations weren't even high.
Id say going forward it has been quite mixed from both, but defensively especially if you look at tackles Dorgu has been much better than Dalot. Its pretty clear neither is comfortable but Dalot has been such a liability this season its insane. Dorgu was never a transfer I wanted but he would be fine as a bench option. Dalot should be sold asap.
That whole sides a mess. Shaw doing alright but he’s limited to a 5 a side size pitch and that is affecting Cunha who loses his freedom.
Says a lot when fans are arguing over who is a worse option
Yes pretty muchSays a lot when fans are arguing over who is a worse option
Surely once martinez is back we try shaw at LB. The most Dalot should ever be is cover for two actually good wingback and his versatility to play both positions would make him an okay squad player.
Dalot is a liability in all parts of the pitch. Despite his limitations, Dorgu at least acknowledges them and does the safe pass when he knows he won't be able to do anything else. Dalot will just try for the sake of it and end up losing the ball. Not to mention all the times he is out of position or loses focus. Dorgu has created the same amount of chances as Dalot, and makes more shot-creating actions than most backs in the league. Also completed more crosses than Dalot as well, so while Dorgu is not the answer right now, he should be quite comfortably ahead of Dalot.
On paper, Dalot should be one of the best backs in the league, but he is genuinely tragic and has been for some time.
The bold bit is true, but Dorgu's limitations outweigh that. Dalot actually did what you said against Liverpool and it was terrible, but Dorgu came on and failed with bread and butter basics - the most frustrating being failing to mark Salah at the back post for a routine cross. It was a huge relief Salah scuffed his shot wide, but a gaping chance that could have been avoided if Dorgu could do the basics.
Dalot appears to be getting more stick because he's older and more experienced, but I dont care for that. I care for player A and player B in this moment in time - and right now one of them is still comfortably worse.
Yeah I can’t recall seeing AWB cross the ball for us like he did for West Ham on Sunday. I don't even want to see him in the team at RWB let alone LWB. Unfortunately our options just aren't up to it and it's joint highest issue with centre midfieldI find it a bit ironic that we sold AWB instead of Dalot, and i assume everyone agreed that was the correct move. But then we're now watching how AWB playing as wing-back, and he's been better than any in our squad
And he'd probably be our best RCB also, where all he needs to do is just defending.
Agree. How hard can it be to replace Dalot as a starter. I’m fine having him as a substitute though.
Mazraoui was comfortably worse at wingback last season, and Dorgu has been comfortably worse for the last month or so. Shaw's body almost certainly wouldn't be able to handle playing wingback for full matches (although I do tend to think he might be real quality coming on for the final 20 minutes or so).
That means that right now Dalot is our best option on the left and our second best option on the right. It sucks because he's nowhere near good enough himself, but the other options are worse. The hope is that Dorgu's decent cameo in the last game might be him returning to form as I do think that he brings a better balance to the team on the left. But he'd been horrific for the previous month.
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A sub that made us worse (again) today. He kills any chance of a quick dangerous cross from the left and offers nothing.
Leave Dorgu on or sub one of our young lwb talents on instead. How's he still either starting or getting minutes is a mystery.
Leave Dorgu on or sub one of our young lwb talents on instead. How's he still either starting or getting minutes is a mystery.
His first involvement was to pass directly to a Spurs player. Set the tone.
Leave in Portugal
Because related to Ruben
You're going to need him to be around from the middle of December.
Mazraoui, Amad and Mbuemo all unavailable at the same time so your right side going to be decimated given they all started today in a tough away game.
Actually curious how Amorim sets up in that period as he might be running out of forward options if Sesko is out for a while with the injury at the end.
Mazraoui, Amad and Mbuemo all unavailable at the same time so your right side going to be decimated given they all started today in a tough away game.
Actually curious how Amorim sets up in that period as he might be running out of forward options if Sesko is out for a while with the injury at the end.
Dorgu didn’t start well but was playing a lot better in the second half that sub made no sense at all
Watching him from the other side, it's a relief to see him getting on the ball, backwards or sideways pass, no danger whatsoever.
Absolutely awful tonight for Portugal.
Absolutely awful tonight for Portugal.
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Was he as bad for them as he is for us?
Possibly worse.
That would probably mean he won't get another call up.