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Did you think this was the past tense of wipe?Seniors can feck off, if people think they would perform any better, oh, i forgot they woop the floor with Partizan (a) and Astana at home for example.
Did you think this was the past tense of wipe?Seniors can feck off, if people think they would perform any better, oh, i forgot they woop the floor with Partizan (a) and Astana at home for example.
State of you, do one.What on Earth was Ole thinking? We haven't sealed top spot in the group. We have a miserable record as a whole and duly in need of thrashing a side to get some confidence. We have senior players that are still with us direly needing minutes and freshness. Heck, we need just a solid all around competent performance for 90 minutes. And he decides to leave the team at home and play the academy side.
I really tried to focus on the positive around fielding all those academy boys and indeed a few of them played quite well. But the fact is that traveling team, that lineup were incredibly disrespectful of Manchester United, the traveling fans, the Europa League and Astana.
So mission accomplished:
Ole gets his name in the books - most academy debuts in a European game in a single outing. And great excuse for losing another game. Woo hoo.
I can't credit any of the good play today to anyone but Butt. The senior players showed themselves to be more poorly coached. And the manager must think running this club is like some video game where you can skip and Sim games moving on to the important ones you actually want to play.
It made me wonder how he would pronounce Ole's name.Insubordinate and churlish!
If we had no mid week game against spurs and another on the weekend against fecking city of all teams a bunch of us would get your point. But risking fatigue and injury even on scrubs like Matic for a dead rubber would be stupid. We lost Pogba for three months after choosing to risk him on a carabao cup game against Rochdale let's not repeat the same mistakes. Priorities.It's interesting to see the number of insults being hurled at me for having a starkly contrasting opinion. I'm not going to pretend like this was a litmus test of the cafe. But it certainly shows this huge intolerance that's developed on here for anyone criticizing a decision by Ole. I don't recall Fergie getting this kind of blind support on here in sack Fergie sell giggs years
So you are telling me, that you can justify playing regular starters and risk them injured in a meaningless away EL game? Is THAT what you are saying with this post? That you would have NO complaints if Harry Maguiire picked up an injury from this game? Or Marcus Rashford? Perhap better yet, Martial. is THAT what you are telling everyone, that the risk for player injury in this game, was absolutely worth it?What on Earth was Ole thinking? We haven't sealed top spot in the group. We have a miserable record as a whole and duly in need of thrashing a side to get some confidence. We have senior players that are still with us direly needing minutes and freshness. Heck, we need just a solid all around competent performance for 90 minutes. And he decides to leave the team at home and play the academy side.
I really tried to focus on the positive around fielding all those academy boys and indeed a few of them played quite well. But the fact is that traveling team, that lineup were incredibly disrespectful of Manchester United, the traveling fans, the Europa League and Astana.
So mission accomplished:
Ole gets his name in the books - most academy debuts in a European game in a single outing. And great excuse for losing another game. Woo hoo.
I can't credit any of the good play today to anyone but Butt. The senior players showed themselves to be more poorly coached. And the manager must think running this club is like some video game where you can skip and Sim games moving on to the important ones you actually want to play.
I know it's a no brainer.
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I know, right? Good, honest attempts at questioning Ole's reign of terror are always shut down on here, feckin' North-Korea and so forth, there's hardly a thread which isn't utterly dominated by people who worship the useless fecker.But it certainly shows this huge intolerance that's developed on here for anyone criticizing a decision by Ole.
We were winning league titles and reaching CL finals back then. We were too big for the league cup. Right now we're neither in the CL nor challenging for the league. Until we start competing for the PL/CL again we can't afford to take the domestic cup competitions lightly.That's not the point, I don't care how well Rochdale would have played, I just think that like SAF used to do the League Cup is one of the competitions where we could and should use heavily youth and bench players.
It's not a joke.The OP must be a joke. Surely? Someone please tell me it's a joke and the poster isn't a complete and utter whopper.
Exactly, not berate a pile of kids. As people have said, if we had picked up even more injuries all hell would have broken lose. Everybody was saying this was a nothing game and to play the kids. He does that and he gets lambasted.I just think rage should be saved for more fitting moments, say sunday after we don't beat Villa perhaps.
Good point. This arrogance that we are above certain competitions need to stop.We were winning league titles and reaching CL finals back then. We were too big for the league cup. Right now we're neither in the CL nor challenging for the league. Until we start competing for the PL/CL again we can't afford to take the domestic cup competitions lightly.
Ridiculous knee-jerk threadWhat on Earth was Ole thinking? We haven't sealed top spot in the group. We have a miserable record as a whole and duly in need of thrashing a side to get some confidence. We have senior players that are still with us direly needing minutes and freshness. Heck, we need just a solid all around competent performance for 90 minutes. And he decides to leave the team at home and play the academy side.
I really tried to focus on the positive around fielding all those academy boys and indeed a few of them played quite well. But the fact is that traveling team, that lineup were incredibly disrespectful of Manchester United, the traveling fans, the Europa League and Astana.
So mission accomplished:
Ole gets his name in the books - most academy debuts in a European game in a single outing. And great excuse for losing another game. Woo hoo.
I can't credit any of the good play today to anyone but Butt. The senior players showed themselves to be more poorly coached. And the manager must think running this club is like some video game where you can skip and Sim games moving on to the important ones you actually want to play.
We don't have the depth to stretch our team to play all competitions at full strength in every games and we are qualified for the knockout stages of the EL.We were winning league titles and reaching CL finals back then. We were too big for the league cup. Right now we're neither in the CL nor challenging for the league. Until we start competing for the PL/CL again we can't afford to take the domestic cup competitions lightly.
Yeap.Didn't people want to see kids in these mostly meaningless games, especially in the EL? Isn't this what everyone has been asking for for years now?
Why are you so sure we're losing to AZ?It's not a dead rubber. We're going to lose at home to AZ and finish second in the group and go out in the next round.
But also, didn't want the full first team there. Just a few more of the ones that need minutes to be sharper for when they do get their cameos in the coming games.
So he can be proved right.Why are you so sure we're losing to AZ?
Did you think this was the past tense of wipe?
Mata is one of the players that needs to be healthy as well. I would not have even played Lingard if I were Ole.I think we could have played a bit stronger squad. We have quite a few fringe players who barely get any game time like Mata, they should have definitely played against Astana IMO. Finishing top of the group is important for us to avoid 2 extra games and now after losing this game we add ourselves unnecessary pressure not only for the next EL game but for the one against Aston Villa as well as there will simply be no excuses if we drop points.
Quite alright for you to disagree so vehemently with my opinion. But this bit here is very wrong. Please feel free to go through all posts and confirm but I don't recall a single time I've complained that Ole played Pogba early and got him injured. My big gripe is that we didn't strengthen the squad more in the summer preempting all this nonsense to begin with.I GUARANTEE YOU that you would be at the very front row of the queue if we had a regular XI player injured in this game. And it annoys the bejeezus out of me. WHY are you like this?
I think that's pretty fair. I'm probably a bit more on edge because the things I'm seeing from the manager that concern me are mounting. Maybe not as big a deal today but still raised an eyebrow for me.Ole is an awful manager & we’ve e lowered our expectations so much now we accept losses regularly & don’t care too much. He also gets lapped up by the fans just for playing kids even though a) they aren’t good enough & b) any manager can do that as he gets a get out of jail free card then. Lose & you’re expected to, win & wow what an amazing manager. It’s kinda cowardly.
But this game isn’t the one to criticise as nobody really cared & we had qualified. Not the hill to due on for your point
Two 8 hour flights and fecking jet lag isnt what to do with players to get them sharper.You don't see the irony in fans traveling that far but the team not ?
My expectation wasn't a full senior team. But I really felt the likes of Rojo, Matic Young and Mata could use more minutes. Would have been a great game to try Jones at DM..