Do City leave you cold?

[totaalvoetbal]

I actually worry that Haaland if we get him will struggle at City (at least for a bit). He just doesn't seem like a Pep player and could have Ibra like issues.

Ibrahimovic was more selfish and he was simply not very good at Barcelona. He didn't follow tactical instructions and he also was missing easy chances. Messi even had to let him take penalties to boost his confidence. The number of chances he missed versus the first game at Arsenal in that quarter finals was damning.

Lewandowski was good under Pep, especially in Pep Guardiola's final season.

If you follow Pep Guardiola's instructions, you will be fine.

 

[copen1945]

Oil versus oil on Sunday. It will be ironic if the Saudi club ends the season of the Abu Dhabi club.

 

[Dansk]

Do their fans still do the Poznan? I remember when they decided to just copy the signature celebration of Lech Poznan. Really says it all about the club and its total lack of soul. Not to mention the hilarious irony of the fact that the Poznan celebration symbolizes protest against the management/ownership. Their club is the arbitrary sportswashing vehicle for a murderous, corrupt rogue state and they don't mind one bit, but they have no meaningful identity in football so they just appropriate bits and pieces of other clubs' iconic traditions without any thought to the meaning behind. It's no different from if they started to adopt the YAWN anthem. It's actually literally the same thing. It's pure cringe and a sign of what a shallow, meaningless football club it is.

They're also ever so proud of having "beaten UEFA" when in fact they... out-spent them on lawyers and managed to arrange it so that the evidence of their cheating was not allowed to be shown in court, causing the case to be dismissed. They interpret that as proof that they were innocent. It's a form of insanity. It's effectively no different from hiring burglars to break in and destroy the evidence, and then saying that the lack of evidence shows that you're not guilty. Except that someone who had done that would know it's a lie, whereas they appear to genuinely believe that they came out of that farce looking clean just because it was lawyers sabotaging the court proceedings, not burglars.

 

[WeePat]

Yes. Get oil clubs out of football now. Ruining the game.

 

[DJ_21]

City don’t bother me, they’ll never be as big as us. My concern is Liverpool, there similar to us and we’re both the most successful English teams. Liverpool also have the fan base like us. City just have money and that still can’t buy or attract the fans. Don’t want Liverpool to over take us with prem titles… fergie worked so hard to knock them of there perch and we need to remain there.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Yes. Get oil clubs out of football now. Ruining the game.

Get fecked, your membership doesn't expire for another 5 years at least

 

[GuybrushThreepwood]

I've seen quite a few comments from some City fans complaining about not getting the 'respect that they deserve' which is funny.

It is true that they could win their 4th title in 5 years (clocking up 198 points like they did across 17/18 and 18/19 was insanely good regardless of the money spent), and the general reaction would largely be 'meh'.

 

[MUW4Eva]

They play like robots, where are the flair players??
There are no characters in the team.

There doesn't seem to be any links to previous players or staff members at the club prior to the takeover.

The club just seems to have died when the takeover happened and a shiny new one took its place.

They mean nothing to me now, back when they were at Maine Road, even if they were rubbish, it still felt important to beat them, now, if we do beat them, it just feels like beating the AI of a computer system.

 

[WeePat]

Get fecked, your membership doesn't expire for another 5 years at least

Over on Bluemoon they're calling Chelsea 'part of the yank cartel'

 

[9 Stone Elvis]

They play like robots, where are the flair players??
There are no characters in the team.

There doesn't seem to be any links to previous players or staff members at the club prior to the takeover.

The club just seems to have died when the takeover happened and a shiny new one took its place.

They mean nothing to me now, back when they were at Maine Road, even if they were rubbish, it still felt important to beat them, now, if we do beat them, it just feels like beating the AI of a computer system.

You have been busy tweeting that the mens Man Utd side means nothing to you now and your sole focus is the womens team so lets hope you stop commenting on mens football here too. The club certainly doesnt need glory hunting disloyal folk like you anyway.

I disagree with many folk on here but I know they love the club. Your agenda is clear and I have no time for it.

 

[padr81]

Over on Bluemoon they're calling Chelsea 'part of the yank cartel'

Soon as that contract is signed you guys are the "London Blue Sox" and no longer "Chelski", you'll be at the forefront of the ESL pushing for franchises to be allowed move cities or something like that.

Oh and literally everything at the club will be "brought to you by Bud Light, a beer so weak it'll prevent the growing of hair on your chest, 2% alcohol and 98% Estrogen".

Please note: None of the above may be true.

 

[9 Stone Elvis]

Soon as that contract is signed you guys are the "London Blue Sox" and no longer "Chelski", you'll be at the forefront of the ESL pushing for franchises to be allowed move cities or something like that.

Oh and literally everything at the club will be "brought to you by Bud Light, a beer so weak it'll prevent the growing of hair on your chest, 2% alcohol and 98% Estrogen".

Please note: None of the above may be true.

Delicately straddling "total bollocks" and "scarily accurate" LOL!

 

[padr81]

Delicately straddling "total bollocks" and "scarily accurate" LOL!

At least my description of bud light is true. (maybe?)

 

[MUW4Eva]

You have been busy tweeting that the mens Man Utd side means nothing to you now and your sole focus is the womens team so lets hope you stop commenting on mens football here too. The club certainly doesnt need glory hunting disloyal folk like you anyway.

I disagree with many folk on here but I know they love the club. Your agenda is clear and I have no time for it.

What??
Glory hunting??

I have been a fan of this great club since I was a child, for over 30 years, how on earth am I a glory hunter in any way whatsoever??

This men's season has worn me down, this team has left me unbelievably frustrated, it is because I love the club soo much that the pain is that much more, that I need just a quick break from the anguish of that team, I am not saying that I don't love the club, because I most certainly do.
I wouldn't have a season ticket, nor have already paid for next season's one if I didn't.

Let's stop with the personal insults here.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Sign perhaps the best young striker in the game and it really doesn’t feel like a big deal

Imagine the fever if United or Liverpool had just signed him

City really are a disease to the modern game. All the talent, titles, world class players. And it’s such a waste

 

[TenonTen]

City haven't even been able to market themselves globally.

Chelsea became huge globally within 4 or 5 years of Roman's takeover.

Even the glory hunters find City boring.

 

[Kaos]

City haven't even been able to market themselves globally.

Chelsea became huge globally within 4 or 5 years of Roman's takeover.

Even the glory hunters find City boring.

They're honestly better off renaming themselves Etihad Stockport FC. The 'Manchester' is doing them no favours, even with the success they've been having

 

[Kanu]

I don't watch City games unless it's a high stakes Champions League game. They're a joke of a club. Their manager suits them because he's pathetic as well with his hypocritical politics, boring style of play and touchline antics.

I don't think the Haaland signing will change a lot. Every year for the past 14 years people been saying City will now be unbeatable. There's been talk about quadruples for years, but they'll never achieve that, you can mark it down.

Imagine supporting City. Imagine supporting a club that desperately want to win a CL, but the 357 fans in the stadium boo the anthem.

 

[9 Stone Elvis]

What??
Glory hunting??

I have been a fan of this great club since I was a child, for over 30 years, how on earth am I a glory hunter in any way whatsoever??

This men's season has worn me down, this team has left me unbelievably frustrated, it is because I love the club soo much that the pain is that much more, that I need just a quick break from the anguish of that team, I am not saying that I don't love the club, because I most certainly do.
I wouldn't have a season ticket, nor have already paid for next season's one if I didn't.

Let's stop with the personal insults here.

Its not a personal insult its a fact. You are ripping into the mens team on Social Media saying how you are done with them, thats fine, be done with them. Of course its glory hunting if for 25 of the 30 years you have seen nothing but success and now that we are in a rocky patch you decide to "focus" on the womens team. Your season ticket is for the womens team I assume so you can still be "done" with the mens team cant you? A womens season ticket is less than the cost of one ticket to the mens so its hardly some extraordinary commitment. Even when you post here in threads about the mens team you try to shoe-horn a reference to the women.

 

[MUW4Eva]

Its not a personal insult its a fact. You are ripping into the mens team on Social Media saying how you are done with them, thats fine, be done with them. Of course its glory hunting if for 25 of the 30 years you have seen nothing but success and now that we are in a rocky patch you decide to "focus" on the womens team. Your season ticket is for the womens team I assume so you can still be "done" with the mens team cant you? A womens season ticket is less than the cost of one ticket to the mens so its hardly some extraordinary commitment. Even when you post here in threads about the mens team you try to shoe-horn a reference to the women.

Please explain to me how me being born when I was, is my fault?? I can't or couldn't control when I was born, nor what success the club has had during my time of supporting them.

Am I supposed to feel guilty that I wasn't born 5 or 10 years earlier than I was, so that I could be classified as a "better" fan due to having gone through more "downs" with the club??

How was I supposed to know or control how successful the club was going to be when I fell in love with the club wayyyy back when I did?? We all surely have a starting point, to where and when we first started supporting the club, we have no control over what the future holds, so how is it, that I am getting attacked on a personal level for the club being successful??

That has nothing to do with me.
I have gone through the ups and downs with the club as best as I can, it isn't my fault that this period post Sir Alex is my first true long "down" period with the club.

Why try and mock or put down the cost of a women's season ticket, that makes no sense, in this time of rising prices across the board (electricity, food etc), having an affordable season ticket is surely a good thing, or at least I think it is anyway.

Can we stop with the personal insults, I don't see how or why they should be in any way an acceptable part of good forum decorum.

 

[Dr Pavel]

I don't know what the feck you morons are arguing about, but I'll answer the question in the OP.
I used to not like watching Man City play a few years ago. I've changed my mind.
I used to only appreciate the individual display of quality from players. So a defender/midfielder making a long diagonal pass. A winger taking on several players. A striker galloping up the pitch on his own.
You don't tend to see these things in a Guardiola side. Which make some people find them boring, including my younger self.
Now I look at a Guardiola side the way it's supposed to be looked at, as a team. The whole team moves together, side to side, back to front.
Let's say you have a slow ass team. How do you increase its speed?
Well you can buy a Bale or a Walcott, a couple of lightning fast players. But that would limit your team's speed to only those players.
Or you can do what Guardiola does, which is to increase the speed of the whole team. They don't have any one player who is as fast as say Bale or prime Ronaldo, but the speed of the team as a whole is high.
I also didn't really understand why he bought players like Mahrez. He's not very fast, he's got decent skills but lacks strength and aggression (qualities that I like, and I think many people, especially people who watch English football, like). He's not really someone you count on to win the games for you by himself.
But that's the point. In a Guardiola side, it's about the team and not the individual. In the right set up, with the right support, a player like Mahrez can contribute and be a good addition to the team. Whereas if you put him in this United side, that is all about individual qualities, he'd probably suck.
Anyway, that's not to say Guardiola is the messiah. He has his shortcomings. For example he doesn't seem very good when the pressure is really on. When his side is in total control, he's good. But when it's probably a better idea to give control (of the ball) to the other team, he still hasn't seem to have it figured out yet.

 

[9 Stone Elvis]

Please explain to me how me being born when I was, is my fault?? I can't or couldn't control when I was born, nor what success the club has had during my time of supporting them.

Am I supposed to feel guilty that I wasn't born 5 or 10 years earlier than I was, so that I could be classified as a "better" fan due to having gone through more "downs" with the club??

How was I supposed to know or control how successful the club was going to be when I fell in love with the club wayyyy back when I did?? We all surely have a starting point, to where and when we first started supporting the club, we have no control over what the future holds, so how is it, that I am getting attacked on a personal level for the club being successful??

That has nothing to do with me.
I have gone through the ups and downs with the club as best as I can, it isn't my fault that this period post Sir Alex is my first true long "down" period with the club.

Why try and mock or put down the cost of a women's season ticket, that makes no sense, in this time of rising prices across the board (electricity, food etc), having an affordable season ticket is surely a good thing, or at least I think it is anyway.

Can we stop with the personal insults, I don't see how or why they should be in any way an acceptable part of good forum decorum.

Never said any of that. Didn't "mock or put down" anyone or any thing. Didn't "personally insult" you either.

Carry on.

 

[Noodle]

I don't watch City games unless it's a high stakes Champions League game. They're a joke of a club. Their manager suits them because he's pathetic as well with his hypocritical politics, boring style of play and touchline antics.

I don't think the Haaland signing will change a lot. Every year for the past 14 years people been saying City will now be unbeatable. There's been talk about quadruples for years, but they'll never achieve that, you can mark it down.

Imagine supporting City. Imagine supporting a club that desperately want to win a CL, but the 357 fans in the stadium boo the anthem.

City and PSG won’t take that final step into true global super club status until they win a few CL titles. One isn’t enough to create that heritage and narrative around the elites. Chelsea have been close (2 titles in 9 years) and would be in that bracket had we dominated a little more domestically in that time.

Combined they’ve probably invested more than £2bn over the last decade and still remain empty handed

 

[MUW4Eva]

Never said any of that. Didn't "mock or put down" anyone or any thing. Didn't "personally insult" you either.

Carry on.

Yes you did on both counts, you said that my season ticket wasn't as important as a men's one, all season tickets no matter fir which team are just as important, they show a commitment to the club.

But let's not continue to get personal here, let's please try to stay with what the thread is actually all about.

 

[Firmino’s teeth]

So they sign Haaland. Big deal.

I already felt the league is City’s to lose every year. It will keep that way by a bigger margin I guess.

They probably still won’t win the CL though. Not with Pep anyway. Dude is a serial european bottler.

 

[Kanu]

City and PSG won’t take that final step into true global super club status until they win a few CL titles. One isn’t enough to create that heritage and narrative around the elites. Chelsea have been close (2 titles in 9 years) and would be in that bracket had we dominated a little more domestically in that time.

Combined they’ve probably invested more than £2bn over the last decade and still remain empty handed

Chelsea for some reason aren't as bad as City. It took Chelsea a while to win (fluke) their first, but Chelsea for some reason felt more like a real football club that already had a bit of history and a nice stadium.

Some classics in the Champions League as well against Liverpool, United final, Bayern final and "it's a fecking disgrace". All City have imo is the Aguero winner for their first title. I also remember the Kompany goal in his last season there, but other than that they embarrassed themselves internationally.

 

[Houdini]

I must admit that Klopps Liverpool is more exciting than City. And I hate both.

 

[Dansk]

All City have imo is the Aguero winner for their first title.

And that was halfway because QPR learned that they were safe from relegation regardless of the result and just stopped playing football, gifting City two goals in the final minutes.

 

[footballistic orgasm]

Chelsea for some reason aren't as bad as City. It took Chelsea a while to win (fluke) their first, but Chelsea for some reason felt more like a real football club that already had a bit of history and a nice stadium.

Some classics in the Champions League as well against Liverpool, United final, Bayern final and "it's a fecking disgrace". All City have imo is the Aguero winner for their first title. I also remember the Kompany goal in his last season there, but other than that they embarrassed themselves internationally.

What's your definition of history though? Because I'm pretty sure every EPL team has a history.

If we're being honest, City has produced some of the most exciting games with crazy scenarios in the CL in the past 5 years. The only thing is that they've always been on the losing end of those games/ties.

 

[croadyman]

And that was halfway because QPR learned that they were safe from relegation regardless of the result and just stopped playing football, gifting City two goals in the final minutes.

Have made this point many times but seems to get lost by many people in the media. They clearly got word from that Stoke v Bolton game and Barton being sent off seemed a set up too.

 

[MongeySpangle]

Have made this point many times but seems to get lost by many people in the media. They clearly got word from that Stoke v Bolton game and Barton being sent off seemed a set up too.

Unbelievable and you’ve got the cheek to demand I get banned.

 

[croadyman]

Unbelievable and you’ve got the cheek to demand I get banned.

Bit suspicious ex City player though wasn't it

 

[MongeySpangle]

Bit suspicious ex City player though wasn't it

Maybe Mark Hughes was in on it as well

 

[Zen86]

Have made this point many times but seems to get lost by many people in the media. They clearly got word from that Stoke v Bolton game and Barton being sent off seemed a set up too.

They don’t want to acknowledge the fact that their biggest (and only) moment in history only came about because the other team didn’t give a shit.

 

[FCBarcelona]

I've seen quite a few comments from some City fans complaining about not getting the 'respect that they deserve' which is funny.

It is true that they could win their 4th title in 5 years (clocking up 198 points like they did across 17/18 and 18/19 was insanely good regardless of the money spent), and the general reaction would largely be 'meh'.

I honestly don't know a single person (no matter the team they support) that have any respect for City or PSG (for some reason Chelsea is a little bit different).
Nobody could care less about their trophies and nobody value them at all.

You are a 3rd rate club all your life and when you get to "play with the adults" nobody gives a s*** for any of your titles. You just bought your success and there's nothing in the world that will change it. Nobody will ever respect you, value or admire anything you do.

On the other hand, the same people will mock and make fun of you when you lose.

 

[Sayros]

I honestly don't know a single person (no matter the team they support) that have any respect for City or PSG (for some reason Chelsea is a little bit different).
Nobody could care less about their trophies and nobody value them at all.

You are a 3rd rate club all your life and when you get to "play with the adults" nobody gives a s*** for any of your titles. You just bought your success and there's nothing in the world that will change it. Nobody will ever respect you, value or admire anything you do.

On the other hand, the same people will mock and make fun of you when you lose.

Well there goes my whole belief system in PSG then, guess I need to find a new club.

One thing you learn, over time, every one will always find a way to hate on your club, no matter how legit or plastic it may be in people's eyes, nobody cares. All I see are people with sour grapes that can't get all the shiny toys like a bunch of entitled children that are no longer the center of the universe from those big 'established' clubs' fanbase.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I don't know what the feck you morons are arguing about, but I'll answer the question in the OP.
I used to not like watching Man City play a few years ago. I've changed my mind.
I used to only appreciate the individual display of quality from players. So a defender/midfielder making a long diagonal pass. A winger taking on several players. A striker galloping up the pitch on his own.
You don't tend to see these things in a Guardiola side. Which make some people find them boring, including my younger self.
Now I look at a Guardiola side the way it's supposed to be looked at, as a team. The whole team moves together, side to side, back to front.
Let's say you have a slow ass team. How do you increase its speed?
Well you can buy a Bale or a Walcott, a couple of lightning fast players. But that would limit your team's speed to only those players.
Or you can do what Guardiola does, which is to increase the speed of the whole team. They don't have any one player who is as fast as say Bale or prime Ronaldo, but the speed of the team as a whole is high.
I also didn't really understand why he bought players like Mahrez. He's not very fast, he's got decent skills but lacks strength and aggression (qualities that I like, and I think many people, especially people who watch English football, like). He's not really someone you count on to win the games for you by himself.
But that's the point. In a Guardiola side, it's about the team and not the individual. In the right set up, with the right support, a player like Mahrez can contribute and be a good addition to the team. Whereas if you put him in this United side, that is all about individual qualities, he'd probably suck.
Anyway, that's not to say Guardiola is the messiah. He has his shortcomings. For example he doesn't seem very good when the pressure is really on. When his side is in total control, he's good. But when it's probably a better idea to give control (of the ball) to the other team, he still hasn't seem to have it figured out yet.

Best opening to a post I’ve read in ages

 

[FCBarcelona]

Well there goes my whole belief system in PSG then, guess I need to find a new club.

One thing you learn, over time, every one will always find a way to hate on your club, no matter how legit or plastic it may be in people's eyes, nobody cares. All I see are people with sour grapes that can't get all the shiny toys like a bunch of entitled children that are no longer the center of the universe from those big 'established' clubs' fanbase.

You might be a long standing PSG fan, most of them are new.

But it is what it is. Over decades I've seen an amazing Barça and very mediocre ones (waaaay worse than today). Same applies for every team. It is fine, that's how football and sport works.
Those big "established clubs" gained their "aura" in the field, playing, and winning through time. It does not apply to the likes of current City/PSG.
You like it or not, nobody value, respect or admire what you've done in the last decade. You can enjoy it for sure. No one will take it from you.

For our own mess (a president who should be in jail) we haven't been able (and we won't be for a few years at least) to "fight" for those "shiny toys" and it is fine. It is well deserved. So I don't care about anyone "stealing" anything from us. But I find 0 value in what you or City could get. Like me, most of the world football fans.

Enjoy your titles, but don't ask for any recognision because you won't find it.

 

[footballistic orgasm]

You might be a long standing PSG fan, most of them are new.

But it is what it is. Over decades I've seen an amazing Barça and very mediocre ones (waaaay worse than today). Same applies for every team. It is fine, that's how football and sport works.
Those big "established clubs" gained their "aura" in the field, playing, and winning through time. It does not apply to the likes of current City/PSG.
You like it or not, nobody value, respect or admire what you've done in the last decade. You can enjoy it for sure. No one will take it from you.

For our own mess (a president who should be in jail) we haven't been able (and we won't be for a few years at least) to "fight" for those "shiny toys" and it is fine. It is well deserved. So I don't care about anyone "stealing" anything from us. But I find 0 value in what you or City could get. Like me, most of the world football fans.

Enjoy your titles, but don't ask for any recognision because you won't find it.

There's no way City, PSG, Chelsea before them would have been able to compete with the historically bigger and richer clubs without the investments they had. You'll find teams that will occasionally compete here and there (like Dortmund in Germany, or Leicester in England, Villarreal in Spain, etc), but it's never consistent.
Teams like Tottenham and Leicester are well admired because deep down, the historical teams know that they pose any real threat to them.

I really don't understand the "nobody cares about City/PSG" posts from fans of other clubs (especially given that continuously making posts just to say you don't care, doesn't really scream "i don't care"... but whatever though), i don't think they care as long as their fans are happy and that they're also able to attract new fans.

 

[Eriku]

City is to football what Brazilian jiu-jitsu is to MMA.