Do Manchester United support their players enough in their personal lives

JPRouve

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Yes, not all agents are the same. Some are commercial, some are contracts only, some are for business entity only, etc. It's now Roc Nation, his agency.

But the point still stands...someone, whether it was one person or one person with a full team, was representing Zaha and his rights during the transfer from Palace to United. That doesn't end after the transfer is completed, especially if your client has contractual obligations such as being a professional and acting/doing things in a way that will be positive and not detrimental to the club, players, or relevant employees.

So then again, it all points back to the player and club communicating what is needed. That same transfer window, United had other players who came in...don't hear them too much saying they didn't know how to cook thus not being able to feed themselves. So again, the club does enough and can do what is asked of them if they are asked by a player.
No the point doesn't stand, you can't claim that something that isn't necessarily part of the role is defintitely part of the role. As for the rest my point is that I wouldn't care whether the players imperatively need those services, i would provide them anyway because my experience interacting with people and my personal experience is that you don't necessarily know what's good for you until someone more experienced tells you or something bad happens, if I was in a management role in football I would try to be proactive because I don't want to rely on 20 years old figuring life out faster than the rest of society.



Here you Howard and Arenas mentioning it around 12:00.
 

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Money can't mature anyone especially with having the burden of depravity when growing up it will make matters worse.

One issue commonly found is that people associate high paid professionals / individuals with a dramatised indifference from the normality of a regular human being. No idea if this is a genuine issue but the likes of Upamecano's experience here does point to some kind of discrepancies with what the OP has mentioned.
 

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No the point doesn't stand, you can't claim that something that isn't necessarily part of the role is defintitely part of the role. As for the rest my point is that I wouldn't care whether the players imperatively need those services, i would provide them anyway because my experience interacting with people and my personal experience is that you don't necessarily know what's good for you until someone more experienced tells you or something bad happens, if I was in a management role in football I would try to be proactive because I don't want to rely on 20 years old figuring life out faster than the rest of society.



Here you Howard and Arenas mentioning it around 12:00.
There was and has been services available to those players, if they so choose to accept them.

I think you're being extremely specific on what type of service Zaha needs from an agent. It's clear he didn't preside over his own transfer by himself and he should have been looked after by his reps (agent(s)) extremely better.

As far as having that structure in place for all players, yes, totally agree. But even if you force it to the players, they go home at the end of the day and have to survive on their own. They have access to way more resources and specialist than the majority of people. Some athletes buy into it and figure it out sooner than others.

Players still go to fast food places whenever they want, especially when they are young. Those habits are hard to break and for most they eventually get out of it but it's equal parts on them and on the team to figure it out.
 

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There was and has been services available to those players, if they so choose to accept them.

I think you're being extremely specific on what type of service Zaha needs from an agent. It's clear he didn't preside over his own transfer by himself and he should have been looked after by his reps (agent(s)) extremely better.

As far as having that structure in place for all players, yes, totally agree. But even if you force it to the players, they go home at the end of the day and have to survive on their own. They have access to way more resources and specialist than the majority of people. Some athletes buy into it and figure it out sooner than others.

Players still go to fast food places whenever they want, especially when they are young. Those habits are hard to break and for most they eventually get out of it but it's equal parts on them and on the team to figure it out.
I made a general comment about what I believe is in the interest of the club and didn't mention Zaha a single time. There was nothing specific, let alone extremely specific, about Zaha and his agents.
 

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This.

Top 2% problems.
OK let's say you are the poor 98%, say on 60K /week, a humble 3m p.a. Outside football world, how many of you are making >1m p.a.?

The Club would help you to relocate, finding schools for your kids etc. On the extreme case of Lingard, I heard him saying that the Club did step in and providing housekeeping and driver assistance. Other than that, should the Club find you girlfriends (every month) such that you don't need to make mistakes in Iceland or any where else (or arrange those who don't talk to the press, such as Walker's group)?

That's why senior players, in particularly the Captain / Vice-Captain, play a key role in understanding players' needs, and raise the alarm if necessary. With so many foreign players nowadays, Mata has become a key role I believe.

Back to the Zaha era. Who was the Captain / VC? Rooney, Carrick?
 

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would hiring a nanny, cleaner etc not fall under the role of the players agents?
I'd say making sure their client is happy does, but that would fall more under the role of a PA or manager, which some players do have. Maybe some agencies cover that too though.
 

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It's not about footballer getting paid so well, they need to get their shit by themselves. But it's more about how a supposedly big Company protecting their main assets, where these assets well-being and success are the main reason the Company could maintain their status.
 

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They do help the ones that don't make it to the U23 or the first team, which is good of them. They also make sure all youngsters are in education and doing well.

If Manutd pay a £20m fee for you, you shouldn't need baby sitting, I agree. Zaha just seems to be a baby tbh, to this day I dont like his attitude on the pitch.
The issue I have with this angle is that it doesn't take into consideration any of the human elements involving a transfer. A lot of players have been brought up in a world where Football was their absolute priority. Even the average joe develops a lot of life skills between the ages of 19-24, around the same age that a player might be making a big move.

To many, footballers are celebrities but in reality they are humans. Imagine being picked up by a company when you're 18 years old, moving to a new country, different language, culture, regulations. To me it's easy to see how they need a little help, regardless of the size of a transfer fee.