Curious to see if the Caf is happy with our current striker options considering Sesko is still raw, Zirkzee has been poor so far, Cunha and Mbeumo not being natural 9s, or do you think we need to sign someone this window?
Do we need to sign a striker?
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Probably could do with another striker but way down the pecking order
Probably yeah. Think it would make sense to try and nab an experienced head that can not just support there but help guide Sesko. Lewandowski? Even Welbeck?
There's just a severe lack of talent out there, and I wouldn't wanna spend another £50m+ on an unproven talent. Thiago would be class but will cost over £100m, and not a priority
There's just a severe lack of talent out there, and I wouldn't wanna spend another £50m+ on an unproven talent. Thiago would be class but will cost over £100m, and not a priority
Jimenez is on his last year. Welbeck just renewed
If Zirkzee goes, then a cut-price move for Wissa or Toney wouldn't be the worst idea.
If Zirkzee stays, then an old head to help out in the dressing room, potentially Welbeck or Jiménez, as already proposed.
If Zirkzee stays, then an old head to help out in the dressing room, potentially Welbeck or Jiménez, as already proposed.
I wouldn't mind one but realistically it's a way down the list of priorities given the other needs of the team and the fact we signed 3 forwards last summer.
Would anyone take Neymar? On a free on low wages and 1-year contract... I'd be very tempted. It's not like we're going to drop 50m+ on a striker this summer cant see too many options. I like Lewandowski too, but maybe too old.
You’re not the same bloke that wanted to give Konate £400k or the one that wanted to spend £40m on Roefs are you? Equally mad.
Do we need a “striker”? Not necessarily. I think we need a forward of some sort, be that striker or wide. Just a competent body to eat up minutes and be a good squad option. Wilson on a free isn’t a terrible shout. I think between Sesko, Mbeumo, Cunha and playing Mount/Bruno as a false 9, we’ve got enough, but that body could be a Jimenez. Wouldn’t want to spend a lot of the budget on it though. Think we’d score more having a better midfield and left back that can attack.
No. I don't want Konate and I wouldn't waste money on a keeper.
Harry Wilson would want a big wages and maybe 3-4 years contract. And he isn't a striker is he? Not sure how thats more sensible compared to Neymar that would just come for a year and be a sub mostly , until we can get a better option next transfer window.
We need an upgrade on Zirkzee for sure
We do yeah. Zirkzee will leave I would think and we'll need a replacement, unless there's a belief Obi's ready but hard to imagine that's the case right now.
No, he’s a forward, like I said. But it’d be a lot more sensible than Neymar, who is never fit, isn’t doing great in Brazil, would want huge wages and has an ego the size of a small planet. Would rather go against the “no d**kheads” policy, no?
He’s also not a striker.
Absolutely. Seskos not ready to lead the line yet and zirkzee will be gone. We need experience though. Jimenez would be a great one whilst Sesko learns his craft.
I have a feeling you don't like Neymar
My daughter’s boyfriends dad is in Brazil working on his rehab, I’ll get him to put some fellers out.
Is that violent, sexual, or both?
United have just spent the last year clearing all the bad eggs out the dressing room. Neymar is close to the last player the club should or would consider.
How often has Neymar been a striker?
My answer is not him in any case.
My answer is not him in any case.
We need to feed our striker first. But yeah. Any chance Lewi isn't going to be favored at Barca next year?
Yes of course we clearly do but we also have issues in both full back positions, CB, midfield and on the wing. We are going to have to make to do somewhere and striker is one of the positions where that may be the case.
Given the number of games, even someone like Raul Jimenez on a one year deal would be worth a punt or you commit to giving Chido Obi significant minutes. Maybe even invest in someone like Dadason and loan him out and hope him or Chido Obi come good.
Given the number of games, even someone like Raul Jimenez on a one year deal would be worth a punt or you commit to giving Chido Obi significant minutes. Maybe even invest in someone like Dadason and loan him out and hope him or Chido Obi come good.
I don’t think we NEED one per se, I think Sesko and Mbeumo are good options, with Chido also maybe coming through as third choice.
That said, if we wanted to go the Liverpool route of two top young strikers - I’d be all over Kroupi, who looks an incredible talent, better than Sesko even, who I really like.
That said, if we wanted to go the Liverpool route of two top young strikers - I’d be all over Kroupi, who looks an incredible talent, better than Sesko even, who I really like.
No we do not.
Would be surprised if anyone didnt think we needed a striker tbh. JZ is miles away from being good enough and neither Mbeumo or Cunha are strikers. At least this year we're in a position where we're reasonably happy with our #9 though and so I dont think we're going shopping for a starter. A proven, experienced head would be ideal.
Chido looks absolutely miles away from being a premier league player. Even a rotational one.
Bit of both I reckon, he’s from Newcastle.
It would have to be one who’s at the other end of their career, happy to rotate a bit and would be available cheap/free and not massive wages (Lewa I think would expect big money I imagine).
If there isn’t one that ticks those boxes I’d stick with what we’ve got, Mbeumo and Sesko have enough goals in them. I think big Josh will get a run out over the next few games for this very reason and can see him staying next season.
Our transfer priorities lie elsewhere.
If there isn’t one that ticks those boxes I’d stick with what we’ve got, Mbeumo and Sesko have enough goals in them. I think big Josh will get a run out over the next few games for this very reason and can see him staying next season.
Our transfer priorities lie elsewhere.
Was quality in his day but a complete prick. Over the hill now.I have a feeling you don't like Neymar
Zirkzee isn't a striker. He's closer to the way Firmino played than a consistent goal scorer. Both wingers would need to constantly be on the move for him as his passing is quite good.
But to answer a question, we only have 1 striker. So yes, we need another one, I'd prefer an experienced one.
I think that’s a bit misleading. The ‘one’ striker we have is not guaranteed to be picked as the striker in our team from game to game.
Yeah, and Mbuemo being put there has really made a difference bar the first 2 maybe 3 games. I'm undecided where I believe if Sesko got consistent starts, will he kick on or do we need an experienced one that reduce the pressure.
We need a top class striker and we're deluding ourselves for thinking otherwise. We're going to be playing an estimated 15 more games next year and need a lot of goals. Signing someone in the quality of Weghorst, Zirkzee etc will lead us back to 15th place.
Definitely.
A starting Manchester United striker needs to have good general play. Even if they're not scoring, they need to be able to hold the ball up, bring the rest of the team into play, link-up with other attackers, create for themselves, etc.
Mbeumo's general play is terrible. At his best, he will still play terribly but will score on top of that, and you're not guaranteed Chicharito numbers with him so I don't think he's worth persisting with.
Sesko's general play is very poor, too, but he's young and new to the league. Mbeumo is in his prime and had already settled in this league so there's a lot more potential with Sesko. He should be back-up at the moment.
A starting Manchester United striker needs to have good general play. Even if they're not scoring, they need to be able to hold the ball up, bring the rest of the team into play, link-up with other attackers, create for themselves, etc.
Mbeumo's general play is terrible. At his best, he will still play terribly but will score on top of that, and you're not guaranteed Chicharito numbers with him so I don't think he's worth persisting with.
Sesko's general play is very poor, too, but he's young and new to the league. Mbeumo is in his prime and had already settled in this league so there's a lot more potential with Sesko. He should be back-up at the moment.
We do. If we can get someone with experience and on the cheap (sort of like Cavani or Zlatan) that would be ideal. We could consider Mateta as well. Selling Zirkzee who's not a good fit could cover the fees of the new Striker.
I think we might need another attacking player, but it depends on what the idea is for Dorgu and if we are selling Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee. There's a chance a youth player could come in, but I don't particularly feel we have quite enough goals, even more-so considering how many Casemiro will have chipped in by the end of the season. He's level with Cunha on 8 at the moment. Mbeumo has 8, Bruno has 8, Sesko has 10, and Amad only 2... Obviously, you'd expect all of these players can get better returns in the next season as we will likely play more than 50 games instead of a meagre 40. But nonetheless, we probably need quite a significant improvement, especially from Amad (and maybe more opportunity to play for Mount, Dorgu, and another attacking player to contribute). If the main four starters are Cunha, Bruno, Mbeumo and Sesko then you have to feel we need those four players to get 60 goals combined in all competitions. If that isn't realistic enough then we must add in my opinion - assuming the back-ups are Dorgu, Mount, Amad, and Zirkzee then we need more. If Dorgu is still seen as a long-term Left Back and we aren't signing one, then I think someone to pressure Cunha's position as much as you'd expect Amad to on Mbeumo would be the minimum requirement. Cunha & Mbeumo can do their stints as a striker so they'll all play a lot when we're (hopefully) in four competitions and going deep in them all.
The issue is we need 2-3 midfield players first depending on if Ugarte goes. It feels like Ugarte must go as I can't see him improving enough to even be 4th choice in midfield, but maybe it's a problem we have to put up with for a season if we want to get higher quality elsewhere. I hope the board gets it right on the recruitment side, but I admit it's a tough one this coming window. Can we get away with not signing a full back? Is De Ligt going to be able to play and be reliable after this back issue? If we can only sign 4-6 players on top of ensuring we sell the right ones then it's tricky. I think the priority is clear on a couple of things (= ones are debatable):
1) The Manager - Is it Carrick or a 'top class' Manager?
2) Midfield - We must buy two high quality Midfield players or we are throwing the season before it begins.
=3) This could be a Striker, Wide Forward, or Full Back
=3) Is De Ligt reliable? Do we need another CB.
=5) Are we selling Ugarte? If so, we need a third Midfield player who is better than him.
=5) Are we selling Onana, Bayindir, and releasing Heaton? If so, we need a decent/experienced back-up GK.
As touched on before, overarching priority is selling the players who haven't been here this season anyway and removing the right ones who have (mainly Malacia, Ugarte and Zirkzee IMO).
As for a striker though, if we could get Thiago and two of our midfield targets for £200m~ then I'd be over the moon
The issue is we need 2-3 midfield players first depending on if Ugarte goes. It feels like Ugarte must go as I can't see him improving enough to even be 4th choice in midfield, but maybe it's a problem we have to put up with for a season if we want to get higher quality elsewhere. I hope the board gets it right on the recruitment side, but I admit it's a tough one this coming window. Can we get away with not signing a full back? Is De Ligt going to be able to play and be reliable after this back issue? If we can only sign 4-6 players on top of ensuring we sell the right ones then it's tricky. I think the priority is clear on a couple of things (= ones are debatable):
1) The Manager - Is it Carrick or a 'top class' Manager?
2) Midfield - We must buy two high quality Midfield players or we are throwing the season before it begins.
=3) This could be a Striker, Wide Forward, or Full Back
=3) Is De Ligt reliable? Do we need another CB.
=5) Are we selling Ugarte? If so, we need a third Midfield player who is better than him.
=5) Are we selling Onana, Bayindir, and releasing Heaton? If so, we need a decent/experienced back-up GK.
As touched on before, overarching priority is selling the players who haven't been here this season anyway and removing the right ones who have (mainly Malacia, Ugarte and Zirkzee IMO).
As for a striker though, if we could get Thiago and two of our midfield targets for £200m~ then I'd be over the moon
I struggle to see any one striker that would elevate us except Kane.
I will hate that Kane didn't play for this club to my dying days.
I will hate that Kane didn't play for this club to my dying days.
We absolutely need to keep it fresh up front. Fergie often said he couldn't buy enough strikers. I fear we're stuck in some daft cycle where we abandon recruitment in one area in order to focus on another, last year it was attack, this summer it's midfield while next year will presumably be defence.
Surely it makes more sense to keep things right all over the pitch rather than let entropy set in in some areas and plan to address that down the line. We need new full backs, at least one centre half, new midfielders and fresh energy up top this summer. Instead we'll end up buying two midfielders and wonder why we're never serious challengers for anything.
Surely it makes more sense to keep things right all over the pitch rather than let entropy set in in some areas and plan to address that down the line. We need new full backs, at least one centre half, new midfielders and fresh energy up top this summer. Instead we'll end up buying two midfielders and wonder why we're never serious challengers for anything.
The answer is - yes, we need another striker, because Zirkzee will likely be sold this summer.
But, we have more urgent priorities. 3 midfielders(with hopefully Ugarte sold), and a left winger.
Striker will be back on the menu in summer 2027(maybe even a new starting striker, depending on how Sesko does next season).
But, we have more urgent priorities. 3 midfielders(with hopefully Ugarte sold), and a left winger.
Striker will be back on the menu in summer 2027(maybe even a new starting striker, depending on how Sesko does next season).
Yes, we do. We needed one last summer and will definitely need one this summer if we have European competition next season.
They don't need to be a world beater - just a decent Premier League striker to be a backup/rotation option with Sesko. I think the door has probably closed on Welbeck's return now, but that is the right kind of idea. I'd take Solanke for a cheapish fee if Spurs go down. We cannot devote big money to it as we need to invest heavily in midfield.
They don't need to be a world beater - just a decent Premier League striker to be a backup/rotation option with Sesko. I think the door has probably closed on Welbeck's return now, but that is the right kind of idea. I'd take Solanke for a cheapish fee if Spurs go down. We cannot devote big money to it as we need to invest heavily in midfield.
With Sancho/Rashford leaving, we will def see a forward coming in. Zirksee I think should also leave (for his careers sake), so the question is whether he is replaced with a 9 or another forward? There is room for an experienced goalscorer...Lewandowski anyone?
Does Harold Kane have a release clause?