That's definitely one of the main dissociations between Jose and Sir Alex. I'm just taking a step back and noting the comparisons in both cases how the media and many a fan took a stance about how football should be played. That dichotomy was labeled beautiful and artful on one side and dark or archaic on the other. And the Pep v Jose rivalry is rife w that kind of dialogue just as it was w Wenger
Do you want to see Pep at United?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
How did a 'Do you want to see Mou at Utd?' thread look like ten years ago?
In the very unlikely case he joins Utd people will love him.
In the very unlikely case he joins Utd people will love him.
Nope, no thanks, I would not want a City cast off at my club thank you very much.
Guardiola has done unbelievably well at City but he has had literally unlimited resources
I am still yet to see whether he can take a team from ‘good’ to ‘great’ without replacing the entire squad
I don’t think that’s unfair and it’s pretty diffficult to argue that Jose HASN’T won lots of trophies with some relatively average sides
I am still yet to see whether he can take a team from ‘good’ to ‘great’ without replacing the entire squad
I don’t think that’s unfair and it’s pretty diffficult to argue that Jose HASN’T won lots of trophies with some relatively average sides
It's amazing how many worshippers St. Pep has, despite him managing our oil infused cross-city rivals. They'd probably let Pep sleep in their beds at night. He can do no wrong.
That ship has long set sail, let it go. I don't care what he wins or how he does it, joining City says everything about the man. Like a kid who's just activated cheat mode on Football Manager. He can feck off.
That ship has long set sail, let it go. I don't care what he wins or how he does it, joining City says everything about the man. Like a kid who's just activated cheat mode on Football Manager. He can feck off.
Let’s not kid ourselves. Had pep joined united and spent the money that Jose has and we were storming the league and playing a very attractive brand of football I doubt any on here would be saying that he is an overhyped bald drugs cheat that can’t win without spending. However he didn’t come here he went city and therefore he will never manage us. Despite some on here being too narrow minded to look beyond the fact he manages city, the simple truth is that pep is clearly a very good manger.
You are exactly right. Too many jealous guys on here. If it was the other ways around everyone on here would be pissing themselves laughing when they lost to the likes of Huddersfield and Newcastle.
I would’ve loved him here, one thing is for sure if he did become united manager he would’ve binned our deadwood Long ago. Smalling, Jones, young, Fellaini etc would be playing elsewhere by now. Obviously our team would be better off in an attacking sense too, we would’ve signed exciting attacking talent that would flourish under him.
Mourinho is the exact opposite.
Mourinho is the exact opposite.
I would absolutely love to see peppal at Newcastle United.
And another City thread pops up in the United forum.
Nope,I think a lot of supporters probably wouldn't warm up to a former City manager.Mourinhos different,United have never felt the same way about Chelsea so most supporters found it quite easy to warm to him.BTW it's the same reason why I would never want Jurgen Klopp to take over at United,so no,I wouldn't want Pep in charge of United....
Some very bitter Rawk during the Fergie era posts in this thread. Proves United fans are just the same as almost every football supporter in the world: hypocrites ad ready to spout nonsense because of bitterness.
Pep is a better manager than this version of Mourinho and better than anyone else in the world as well. Accept it and hope Mourinho fights back with success. Or just hope the Spaniard gets bored with destroying our title hopes and leaves.
Pep is a better manager than this version of Mourinho and better than anyone else in the world as well. Accept it and hope Mourinho fights back with success. Or just hope the Spaniard gets bored with destroying our title hopes and leaves.
So he improved Bayern Munich did he ?.Also missed him winning the champions league with an injured team and little budget
No
Yep it's better to be continuously drooling over United's rival managers and wishing them to manage us later to appear classy. I think this will make us more embarrassing then being classy.
All of City's standout players are inherited, except for Ederson.
Otamendi was a beast in Spain and is now a beast again, Fernandinho and Silva were better when they were younger, KdB carried City in the CL in 15/16 and he has put in these level of performances for Wolfsburg (he destroyed Guardiola's Bayern Munich when he was there).
Ederson is the one that looks like a proper Guardiola player; but he had to bin Bravo to get him. The only other club, that would allow you to buy a goalkeeper and bin him the next here is PSG. Guardiola bought Stones for £50m and has binned him for Laporte, another example of how ridiculous the spending is.
I would rather stick pins in the ops eyes
Well that just isn’t true is it.. they both are playing now and I would guess they will be the starting CB’s going forward. Before he even arrived many presumed this would be his CB pairing.
Also are Leroy, Bernardo, Mendy and Jesus not considered great talents/players? And then Silva, David has been in probably his best form for City ever in the last two seasons.
We've finished outside the top 4, as low as 7th since Fergie left. We've had Van Gaal with his "create one chance a game" dull football with a clapped out Rooney undroppable at the top of the tree.
I'd say being 2nd is a significant improvement on that.
yeah we could be better, but we're Man Utd, we'll never be satisfied until we're top and playing swashbuckling football.
Can't see Otamendi just being binned like that.
He’s not going to be binned tho. I’m sure he’ll play plenty of games but I’m just guessing the CB preferred pairing will be Laporte and Stones. Ottamendi this season has been decent, last season he was a bit of a mess and a liability I just think he’ll slip in to a rotation and will play certain games.
More like City shagger.
Finally got enough likes to Ignore Thread after 5 years of very sporadic posting 
Who would've thought I'd get to use it almost immediately.
Any self-respecting United fan actually 'discussing' anything in this nonsense of a thread should be ashamed.
Who would've thought I'd get to use it almost immediately.
Any self-respecting United fan actually 'discussing' anything in this nonsense of a thread should be ashamed.
This Man City fan is asking if we want Pep?
No man....you can keep him!
The sheer audacity. To come to a rival fan forum and say, "you'd like our manager wouldn't you....".
MCFC fans are getting bold these days
No man....you can keep him!
The sheer audacity. To come to a rival fan forum and say, "you'd like our manager wouldn't you....".
MCFC fans are getting bold these days
No. He will never manage United after managing City. As for his spending, he is doing something with all the money that he's spent, has a clear vision and will have something to show for it towards the end of the season.
He's brilliant. Unfortunately, he's also City. It's a damn shame we didn't nab him before he became infected but infected he is. Even the idea of him managing here now is too wrong to deserve a thread.
If you're a City manager you don't go to Utd and vice versa. Doesn't matter how good you are or who you are. Simple as that! Never forgive Mark Hughes and Brian Kidd. Keano was right about that!
The key difference here is that SAF always had an upperhand over Wenger while Jose has always been the loser against Pep. Pep is like Sir Alex, a born winner. Jose is proving not to be a born winner anymore, won somethings once upon a time, not anymore, just like Wenger used to. So in this case SAF=Pep and Wenger=Jose.
I wonder if anyone else sees parallels with the Arsene - SAF rivalry? The former was always eulogized in the media for his passing football, compared to a fine wine .Sir Alex on the other hand was the tough Glasgow ruffian from the docks and his football was effective and entertaining but not this 'art ' that Wenger had going on in London. It's got some symmetry to the Pep versus Jose story. And for what it's worth, I was quite happy with the expert of man management over football purist before and am happy to stick with that now as well .
Sir Alex never had such a poor run of just 2 league titles in 8 years while being coach of a really top club, which Jose have had now since 2010. Jose's best days are gone. He is now earning loads of bucks through past glory days. Just like Wenger, Jose has now become a specialist in failure.
No.
Great coach without a doubt but he had his chance to manage United and he blew it.
Great coach without a doubt but he had his chance to manage United and he blew it.
What a load of rubbish
He's just a younger Van Gaal. Possession football is boring, who the hell wanna experience it once again
This City team on paper are certainly not great. Great from an individual point of view is Real Madrid, Barcelona or PSG. City are not that when you look at what their players achieved throughout their careers. He also did not replace the whole team. In fact out of their most consistent starting eleven, only Ederson, Walker and Sané arrived at the club after him, that's hardly overhauling the whole team.
You guys would love Pep. And start talking like Football purists within a week.
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He would bankrupt the club, no thanks
- Jose beat Pep's Barcelona with Inter.
- Jose won the Spanish Cup and League against Pep's Barcelona with Madrid.
- Pep always had stronger teams than Jose, and almost always had the referees on his side.
- Pep has never won anything with a smaller club, or even an underdog club. In fact, he never won anything unless his team was better than anyone by a mile, and even then he didn't always win.
- Pep didn't win anything last season. Jose won 2 trophies (not counting Community Shield).
- SAF was at the club for 20 years. Jose is in his second season.
No..., also wouldn't happen. Firstly in today's market he would need a billion pounds chest to get rid of half the team and start building from scratch, again another 2 year project. Youth can just as well pack up and leave, won't get a chance at all to break through and as we could see last night, with all that money and flair got knocked out of the FA cup (with all his stars on the pitch, no youth team) by Wigan, well done to them as well. After that defeat, I wonder how much money he is going to need to try and fix that blip?
Bollocks. Mourinho got rid of Rooney, januzaj, schweinstieger, Memphis, schneiderlin and valdes to name a few. All players who were dead wood has beens or just not good enough for our team. And I'm sure this summer we will see darmian, blind and fellaini go as well. Just because Mourinho hasn't been able to ship as many out as City in such short time doesn't mean he is the exact opposite
No! And José is staying for many years :-)
If he had never joined City, why not?