Does it make sense to tie Pogba down to a new long term contract?

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He has been here for five and a half years but we are still shifting him around from position to position. I don't see how another five years in eye watering wages would change that and benefit us. Yes he is a brilliant player on his day but his days are few and far between.

I am of the opinion that the team will benefit more from a more natural CM, who is less flashier but does the midfield basics well on and off the ball and is more consistent.
 

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He dictated play alone.
Alone, with Pogba, Vidal or Marchisio. It's silly to even try to question that. While I agree with the idea that Pogba doesn't have the ideal profile for our team, it's a bit ridiculous for anyone to not only criticize him for not being like Pirlo which is a rare profile of player but also act as if Pirlo wasn't someone that has been heavily supported his entire career whether we are talking about Milan or Juventus because he had quite obvious limitations.
 

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I like Pogba, he is an excellent player but I don't think it'll be a smart move to make him one of the highest-paid players and giving him a long-term contract. Especially with the agent he has and all the other frequent media interviews from himself, his brothers where the general tone is his uncertainty towards United. We can definitely use his wages in getting a good replacement who is metronomic in his performances.
 

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Pogba's a great player, but he's never going to fit in the current formation that Ole likes to deploy. I can't ever see United playing 3 in midfield while Bruno is at the club. Whichever formation Ole choses, Bruno is guaranteed to be playing at #10, leaving us with 2 holding mids.

In my opinion, I think we've seen on multiple occasions Pogba's talents are wasted in a 2 man midfield, especially when his attacking nature isn't compensated for. I know for France he played well there during their World Cup win, but having Kante and Matuidi in midfield to support you is very different to having Fred and McTominay.

I reckon both the both club and Pogba will be better off parting ways. He's never going to fit Ole's vision and we're only keeping him out of fear he'll tear it up in La Liga/Serie A (which he probably will do).
 

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I think he’s a great player, but at the wrong club and with the wrong set up. He’ll be a great player for somebody, but not for us. We’ve been open to offers for him for some time and they haven’t really materialised, so the commercial reason doesn’t really stack up. That being the case, let his contract lapse, save the cash and put it into somebody who fits into whatever it is we’re trying to do.
 

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I think it's best for both parties he leaves and I rate him but we'll never use him to his full potential and just waste loads of money on him
 

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I am calm, sorry if it comes out as rude, just I think it's very cheap argument, "superhuman", some want to portray that out midfield/CDM woes are so horrific, when in reality we are a very badly run football club, which neglects team problems and expects some things to solve by themselves. And as soon as we solve one problem, there is another. By the time we find a partner for Pogba and Bruno, they will probably be past their best.

Pogba should be tied down to a new contract, because we lack the quality in the position he plays, among other things like, why lose a player worth 80m pounds for nothing? And yes if he does leave we automatically need 2 midfielders, while also functioning on a 150m yearly budget. So I think my point is clear. Even if he does leave, I hope we get some transfer fee to reinvest in a replacement.


I meant the quality even with him as an option is pretty disappointing,, we are left with very very average set of players who offer zero quality in most aspects of the game. He is the only player who CAN play that further behind and offer some footballing quality, even as inconsistent as he is.
I don't disagree with any points about how the club is run. On a capable CDM, I'm not sure that will do the trick if we're fielding both Pogba and Bruno, but that's also an issue with other parts of the team (full backs, a defense capable of playing a high line, a keeper who is comfortable sweeping up, wide players who stretch play, a striker who can hold up the ball, etc). And the biggest issue is what is the plan? It's quite convenient to know before tying down a very expensive player for the remainder of his career.

I have high expectations of Mejbri and hope to see him given a chance very soon. I also don't think it's outlandish to think we'd sign two midfielders if Pogba were to leave on a free. Matic is nearing the end of his career, might leave next summer. Fred and McTominay are squad players and would be quite decent if they were used as such (the latter still improving). And Donny might push to leave in January - which is probably the best thing he can do for his career.
 

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Change of plan …..he’ll leave on a free and sign for Newcastle.

Massive signing on fee and ridiculous wages.

You heard it here.
 

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I would laugh my head off if he went to Newcastle!
I can see it now with him and pizza boy telling us about how excited they are with the new project and how they match his ambition :lol:
 

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There should be a poll on this. I'd vote no if it's on ridiculous sums (350K+/w) He has glaring holes in his game for the position he plays. I hope we aren't that daft.
 

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I don't disagree with any points about how the club is run. On a capable CDM, I'm not sure that will do the trick if we're fielding both Pogba and Bruno, but that's also an issue with other parts of the team (full backs, a defense capable of playing a high line, a keeper who is comfortable sweeping up, wide players who stretch play, a striker who can hold up the ball, etc). And the biggest issue is what is the plan? It's quite convenient to know before tying down a very expensive player for the remainder of his career.
Yes there are many question marks over different aspects of the team, but surely the plan can not involve loosing your third best player for nothing? And yes imo we can exten on reasonable terms if we are smart, which is doubtfull to be fair but not impossible.

I have high expectations of Mejbri and hope to see him given a chance very soon. I also don't think it's outlandish to think we'd sign two midfielders if Pogba were to leave on a free. Matic is nearing the end of his career, might leave next summer. Fred and McTominay are squad players and would be quite decent if they were used as such (the latter still improving). And Donny might push to leave in January - which is probably the best thing he can do for his career.
I hope Mejbri makes it, but I am doubtful with Ole around to be fair, he's rather stick Fred there then play the kid.
 

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I've thought about it. Not a good idea tbh. It's a tough decision to make mind you. Our midfield is not exactly the best but we've persisted with Pogba for close to 5 years now and he's been nowhere near as consistent as he should be for a player of his reputation and talent.

I'd say rip the bandage off and start over. Free up a starting position in midfield. The club should be doing all it can to properly identify a new signing in that position. Someone who has the potential to take us up a level.

Pogba will give you YouTube moments every other game but he just isn't a good centre midfielder for us.
 

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Yes there are many question marks over different aspects of the team, but surely the plan can not involve loosing your third best player for nothing? And yes imo we can exten on reasonable terms if we are smart, which is doubtfull to be fair but not impossible.


I hope Mejbri makes it, but I am doubtful with Ole around to be fair, he's rather stick Fred there then play the kid.
I cannot imagine that.

There should be a poll on this. I'd vote no if it's on ridiculous sums (350K+/w) He has glaring holes in his game for the position he plays. I hope we aren't that daft.
He's an incredibly talented player, but yes, it's a consideration.

@jojojo is this poll worthy? A) Lose him the 2nd time for nothing B) Tie him down with a 400K deal for 4-5 years ?
 

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If we ever want to win the title we will need to properly high press. So no Ole, no DDG, no Ronaldo and no Pogba.

But in our finish top four through individual skill and a basic bitch system, he's pretty handy. If we have a DM to free him up
 

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Paul is best suited as an advanced playmaker in a 4-3-3 midfield. He;s magnificent in that role however he lacks the eye for goal to play as a no 10 and his defensive ability aren't good enough to play in a deeper role. Sure he did the latter with France. However France have Kante whose a beast. Not to forget that they only play together for few games every year. Would Kante be able to sustain Pogba 2 games, week in week out? I doubt it.

Once we signed Bruno, Pogba's role was under threat. We might have tried playing Fernandez as a false 9 in a 4-3-3 system but that went out of the window the moment we signed Cristiano.

In my opinion its time we bid Pogba's goodbye. He doesn't fit in our system and quite frankly I doubt he wants to stay at OT any longer. If he does stay it would be down to us drowning him in money. That would be stupid as we would soon face a queue of players who will be knocking at our door asking for a pay rise.
 

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If we ever want to win the title we will need to properly high press. So no Ole, no DDG, no Ronaldo and no Pogba.

But in our finish top four through individual skill and a basic bitch system, he's pretty handy. If we have a DM to free him up
Is that a new system?
 

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Paul is best suited as an advanced playmaker in a 4-3-3 midfield. He;s magnificent in that role however he lacks the eye for goal to play as a no 10 and his defensive ability aren't good enough to play in a deeper role. Sure he did the latter with France. However France have Kante whose a beast. Not to forget that they only play together for few games every year. Would Kante be able to sustain Pogba 2 games, week in week out? I doubt it.

Once we signed Bruno, Pogba's role was under threat. We might have tried playing Fernandez as a false 9 in a 4-3-3 system but that went out of the window the moment we signed Cristiano.

In my opinion its time we bid Pogba's goodbye. He doesn't fit in our system and quite frankly I doubt he wants to stay at OT any longer. If he does stay it would be down to us drowning him in money. That would be stupid as we would soon face a queue of players who will be knocking at our door asking for a pay rise.
Saw Maguire who has 4 years left on his contract been offered double now. 300k a week. This club really haven't a clue and if Pogba asked for 500k I think they would pay it
 

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Saw Maguire who has 4 years left on his contract been offered double now. 300k a week. This club really haven't a clue and if Pogba asked for 500k I think they would pay it
If Maguire's story is true then we are really led by morons
 

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If Maguire's story is true then we are really led by morons
I get the strong sense that salary is much less of an issue that asset value to the owners. I suspect it has something to do with capital assets versus running costs and what each allows them to pay themselves in dividends. But that would be pure guesswork. Clearly huge salaries are much more acceptable to them than huge transfer fees - especially when it comes to players whose asset value is declining. Perhaps there is an accountant out there who can explain this?
 

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I get the strong sense that salary is much less of an issue that asset value to the owners. I suspect it has something to do with capital assets versus running costs and what each allows them to pay themselves in dividends. But that would be pure guesswork. Clearly huge salaries are much more acceptable to them than huge transfer fees - especially when it comes to players whose asset value is declining. Perhaps there is an accountant out there who can explain this?
In Maguires case though its not as if hes got a year left and other clubs are sniffing round. It simply doesnt make sense, unless there are issues we don't know about.
 

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After 5 years of underwhelming performances and excuses, I'm not too fussed about Pogba leaving. So the priority for the club re:contracts should only be about getting Bruno to sign his own extension.

But since Bruno is reportedly keen to keep Pogba in the team, I don't think United will want to do anything to upset the negotiations with Bruno. So the most likely outcome is that Pogba will be allowed to run down his contract up to the summer. That way the club can keep a bit of plausible deniability that Pogba leaving was the player's choice not the club's.

I reckon he'll leave on a free for the second time. And that his departure won't hurt us on the pitch even a teeny tiny bit.