This. No idea why Chelsea considered Lampard (other than the team link).
So Tuchel has taken an expensive squad (and a better starting position than Ole inherited) and is making them reach their level, something Lampard failed to do.
Does Tuchel’s success at Chelsea show we should have sacked Solksjaer?
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So Tuchel has taken an expensive squad (and a better starting position than Ole inherited) and is making them reach their level, something Lampard failed to do.
Have you watched Chelsea. Its a snoozefest over there.
Pretty much this. Improvement was bound to happen.
Ah feck off. Somebody thread ban me from this sh*tshow of a thread.
Mercy killing needed.
I can’t help but come into these tedious threads when I shouldn’t... their like a Victorian freak show, you know you shouldn’t but you can’t help but stare in disbelief.
Mercy killing needed.
I can’t help but come into these tedious threads when I shouldn’t... their like a Victorian freak show, you know you shouldn’t but you can’t help but stare in disbelief.
Boom. Let this be the end of this awful thread
Success?
Yes but the OP thought he was on twitter to catch a few flies
Chelsea should definitely sack Tuchel now and get a better manager.
They shoulda coulda woulda be doing better if they did.
They shoulda coulda woulda be doing better if they did.
Yes.
Sigh, if only we had a manager who was capable of leading us to a victory over City.
Wait, what?!
Wait, what?!
He hasn't really done anything yet. If they win the FA Cup and secure top 4, OR win the Champions League, then this would make a little more sense.
What??
I can't remember who was managing us at the time but we beat City a few weeks ago. Might have been SAF or some guy from Norway? One of the two.
Defensively we're not title challengers, I've been saying for nearly a year priority is a CB to join Maguire. Much as I'd love to get Kane or Haaland sadly that has to be our second buy if United choose to spend so much.
Under this new manager bounce of Tuchel Chelsea have been effective than playing good football. Lampard was sacked because Roman believed Chelsea weren't going to finish in the top 4 if kept on. I highly doubt Ole would have seen next season with United if finished outside the top 4 and outside the top 4 is what plenty was predicting after a disappointing transfer window.
Didn't we get accused of that when Mourhino was in charge
Ole being better than Lampard sadly doesn't mean that much. He's got a long way to go if he's going to catch Klopp or Pep up.
Get out man hahaha
Totally different circumstances
I wouldn't of give Ole the job anyway purely based on not proven. We only got him because we ( fans ) love him and was a cheap fix. He's improved us though, I just don't think he's got the nous to take us to the level we belong.
Oles Honeymoon period was even better than tuchels- let’s see where Chelsea is in 2 years. Ole is doing fine imo- we are definitely going in the right direction
The £250m they spunked on top of an already good team is more of a factor.
Ole is essentially making do with Jose's rejects. A team that is already horribly imbalanced. Give him the tools to succeed or fail, and then make that judgement call.
I have those worries too but just no way he's not getting another season. Timing wasn't right on tuchel. If it was in summer then maybe
Simpleton Ole also had a great start replacing a washed-up Mourinho. New manager bounce was inevitable at Chelsea.
Ole is certainly a good distance away from any conversations concerning his sacking unless the team absolutely collapses which is very unlikely.
But many do seem to undermine Tuchel. With some silverware he is not far off being held in the same mantra of Pep, Flick, Klopp (prior to this season). He's had a good impact with a Chelsea team that is not littered with class players and can easily improve quality in multiple positions. Yet there's this odd notion like they are a prime version of Madrid which is far from reality.
But many do seem to undermine Tuchel. With some silverware he is not far off being held in the same mantra of Pep, Flick, Klopp (prior to this season). He's had a good impact with a Chelsea team that is not littered with class players and can easily improve quality in multiple positions. Yet there's this odd notion like they are a prime version of Madrid which is far from reality.
There's definitely been a honeymoon period for Tuchel but Chelsea will win trophies quicker than we will under Ole simply because he's a better manager. Ole is not bad but the jury is out in terms of if he's the one to lead us back to success.
I remember when you signed up to this forum. The fact you’re still talking this much bollocks well over a decade later is genuinely fecking impressive.
The ridiculous amounts of money they spent recently have probably helped.
Their situation was nothing like ours, they changed a manger who had won nothing and proved nothing and replaced him with one who had.
Their league form has been patchy, cup form immense, that Tuchel in a nutshell.
Their situation was nothing like ours, they changed a manger who had won nothing and proved nothing and replaced him with one who had.
Their league form has been patchy, cup form immense, that Tuchel in a nutshell.
No, he'll probably be gone in 12 to 18 months, more than likely sacked after getting a bumper new contract.
Worst thread title that I have seen in some time
Got you!!
Tuchel has gone from a team with a bottomless pit of spending, to a team with a pretty bottomless pit of spending.
He’s enjoyed the new manager bounce.
What on earth tells you he’d have been any better at MU with limited spending?
He’s enjoyed the new manager bounce.
What on earth tells you he’d have been any better at MU with limited spending?
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This forum will do anything it can to put our rivals ahead of us. The reality is Chelsea have a decent team and have replaced scrap manager with a a decent one. We still have a better squad and an equally decent manager thus why we remain better than them. The kneejerk nature of this forum is hard or follow.
Have you seen the type of football Chelsea have played under Tuchel for the most part?
He managed to drain the life a game against Bielsa's Leeds. That takes some doing.
Well done you
Agreed
Much as I'd be happy to upgrade Ole, he's not as bad as some people make out. It's really that his tactics are out of date and he doesn't know how to modernise into a more sophisticated setup. Even if he did he has the wrong players and the Glazers aren't paying for that refit any time soon.
That kind of change takes years, not weeks. Tuchel can't possibly have done that at Chelsea in such a short space of time. So the OP premis is flawed imho
That kind of change takes years, not weeks. Tuchel can't possibly have done that at Chelsea in such a short space of time. So the OP premis is flawed imho
I wouldn’t bother, the narrative is set.Have you seen the type of football Chelsea have played under Tuchel for the most part?
He managed to drain the life a game against Bielsa's Leeds. That takes some doing.
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