He can be our new 9!!
Dominic Calvert-Lewin | Set to leave Everton on free transfer
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DCL and Hojlund.
Revelation 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
Do pay as you play deals exist anymore? A bit of a poor-mans Michael Owen signing...
A player who worsens with every touch he takes.
A poor man’s Weghorst. At least that guy was fit enough to get into a football pitch.
Poor mans Weggy is a hell of a statement
What has DCL done in his career? Weghorst scoring 2 last minutes goals versus Argentina at the quarter final of the world cup is better than anything DCL has done in his career!Poor mans Weggy is a hell of a statement
Haha!
Bang average centre forward. And if that sounds right for us, we could just skip the press conference to introduce him, and take him straight round to make friends with the medical staff instead.
Literally everything about that sentence is terrible.
To be fair to DCL, he had a period where he looked like an average/good premier league striker, got in the England team, scored for England etc etc. That was a couple of years ago and he’s been injured to feck ever since. He might have had a solid career otherwise
This thread seems pretty busy, I hope no one is seriously suggesting we sign this bum?
Fair enough.
No. No. No. Absolutely feck No.
Just lock this thread. Don't give em any ideas.
Just lock this thread. Don't give em any ideas.
It’s crazy how he thinks he deserves 100k a week (journos saying Everton couldn’t meet his demands), when he is 28 years old, has questionable fitness levels (despite injury record improving), has the worst Xg to goals record of any striker in the league, and is the owner of 57 PL goals in his entire career.
It’s honestly crazy.
It’s honestly crazy.
Weghorst basically had a cameo of his life. Just like Eder scoring the golden goal to win historical EURO for Portugal. Eder would always be remembered for that goal, but outside of that, he’s not even a decent striker.
Injuries destroyed DCL, but before that, he was on course to become a decent PL striker. Weghorst couldn’t beat even the worst DCL version PL goal tally.
Definitely need to stay away from DCL. Too old and hasn’t been the same player pre all these injuries.
It's not that crazy from his shoes given how Everton made him feel under Dyche - starting striker whenever fit and would do everything to get him back to fitness. It felt like the world depended on him getting fit at times until Moyes came in and started to use Beto correctly. That, plus it's one of his last chances to get a big contract is probably why he's trying to bargain for those types of wages.
We did the right thing of either letting him go or putting a contract on the table which is befitting of what he should be now, a sub option.
I’m not disagreeing, just made me laugh ffs!
Dyche is a balloon and Beto is twice the player. As much as he was pushed into playing and had the burden of needing to produce….he didn’t.
I can’t think of a PL club that would take that 100k risk based on the output of his first decade in the PL.
Maybe Wrexham will get a few sponsors and outside deals and persuade him to drop down and be the main man for them. Maybe the exposure and marketing would make up for any shortfall in wages.
I can’t see any PL club gambling that amount on him.
I dont think they will either, but I can understand why he and his reps are trying to get to that sort of figure.
Take Wout instead
Not even on a free. Our physio room is full.
Now if they were getting the FM version…
Wout, Wout, We let him walk out
Dom Calvert-Lewin we could do without
So Gyokeres
I'm talking to you
Come on
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Those one-track minds that took you for a Geordie boy
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Would be a nice little friend for Luke Shaw, and more money flushed down the toilet.
At least Wout is hardly ever injured.. Take Wout, take Wout!
We need to avoid him like the plague.
Atleast Weghorst and Eder will have something to be remembered by in the football world, what about DCL? In a few years someone is going to post DCL in the "Footballers you forgot existed" thread
I don’t disagree when you word it like this. Yes Weghorst two goals are more memorable to the general world because it was World Cup and the dramatic fashion of 2 late goals.
However, in response to previous post angle, you need to remember that Everton had been deep in relegation fight, some of those goals, effort contributed to Everton survival. Weghorst had moment of his life, but it was short lived. Netherland still lost to Argentine on the penalty in the end. It’s not a fair comparison between a player who is in unlucky situation with injuries, and a player lucky enough to still part of the World Cup squad even though he was not that good. Put it this way: if Weghorst and Eder are English, they wouldn’t get the call up due to the competition in this position. They just had their one of the lifetime jackpot moment. Eder with an especially much more important moment even. Would you call someone winning lottery jackpot done a better job than an average person?
They're just getting ahead of Farage winning the next election and getting rid of DEI so we can tell people we're English again without getting arrested.
I disagree totally. I think the only Weghorst you know is the United version and you are doing him a disservice here. Weghorst has worked hard to put himself in those situations, so for you to say lucky is kinda weird. In 2018/19 season he was the third best scorer in the bundesliga and scored 20 goals in the 2020/21 season which helped Wolfsburg secure Champions league.
Also do you know he scored the exact same free kick routine and I mean exact same versus Argentina with Wolfsburg first?Although it hasn’t been said publicly, it’s believed he actually taught the Netherlands team that free kick routine. He has done great things for his previous clubs so for you to make it sound like he was a fan who won a lottery to play football is crazy to me. He worked his ass of to get those opportunities.
And I don’t follow your analogy. Lottery is something you don’t control, literally 1 in a more then trillion chance you win. Weghorst practiced these free kick routines and it paid off so why just choke it down to lottery? Weghorst is also an average man who worked hard and good things happened to him.
Lastly, are you suggesting DCL will be called up to the Netherlands team if he was Dutch?
You think the recent Netherland teams are international powerhouse?I disagree totally. I think the only Weghorst you know is the United version and you are doing him a disservice here. Weghorst has worked hard to put himself in those situations, so for you to say lucky is kinda weird. In 2018/19 season he was the third best scorer in the bundesliga and scored 20 goals in the 2020/21 season which helped Wolfsburg secure Champions league.
Also do you know he scored the exact same free kick routine and I mean exact same versus Argentina with Wolfsburg first?Although it hasn’t been said publicly, it’s believed he actually taught the Netherlands team that free kick routine. He has done great things for his previous clubs so for you to make it sound like he was a fan who won a lottery to play football is crazy to me. He worked his ass of to get those opportunities.
And I don’t follow your analogy. Lottery is something you don’t control, literally 1 in a more then trillion chance you win. Weghorst practiced these free kick routines and it paid off so why just choke it down to lottery? Weghorst is also an average man who worked hard and good things happened to him.
Lastly, are you suggesting DCL will be called up to the Netherlands team if he was Dutch?
Weghorst played for Burnley. Had a good game against us for Burnley. We were rumored to link with him under Mourinho, so I looked at him when he was at Wolfsburg. He’s not unknown. Let me remind you: This forum had been discussing Bundesliga attackers in the past. Outside of very few, many Bundesliga had failed to adapt to PL. Many of us know about Bundesliga being developing ground for because they provide easier route to get CL experience. Getting CL qualification in Bundesliga is not that same as in PL. Before Weghorst time, Wolfsburg was not stranger to CL. They eliminated us in LVG second season. How could we forgot? In the game that LVG with his secret tactic throwing unexpected tall player to play as forward (he did earlier in that season with Felaini). This time was Nick Powell. Why I mentioned this? Because that the same secret tactic LVG did with Weghorst when Weghorst was even below Luuk De Jong in the deck.
The point being Weghorst got in this poorer Netherland team. He started first game in Euro 2021 campaign and got dropped like a hot coal after. Even though he was playing in Turkey on loan. He still got selected for World Cup 2020. Just like Depay is still getting call up now even though he is washed to Brazilian League.
Before injuries destroyed him DCL got call up for England. Depay, Luuk De Jong, Gakpo, Bergwjn, and Weghorst couldn’t match DCL best tally, while playing in PL. DCL was in good position to be included in England World Cup 2020.
Among lottery winners, how many won on their first ever ticket? Second? Third? Lottery tickets are free? Of course there is some labor. Let’s not pretend Weghorst had this breakthrough in 2022 due to his improvement. It was a streak of luck he got. He had already been on decline at Wolfsburg. Wolfsburg cashed in on Burnley desperation. After he completed the loan with us, just two seasons, he’s now a rotational option at this poorer Ajax and still get called up for Netherland. If that’s not luck I don’t know what is. You think this would happen during period of RVP Huntelaar Kuyt Babel young Depay, let alone RVN Kluivert Roy Makaay Hasselbank?
Knock yourself out if you think Luuk De Jong, Weghorst, Bergwjn, Depay would get called up for England NT since 2018 (when Weghorst got his first call up), if they are English.
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English commentators seem to get all excited when DCL, Solanke and Callum Wilson are discussed. I really can't remember any of them doing anything of note. Stay away!
Do they? Don’t see that at all.
DCL is a player we obviously should go nowhere near - he has however been one of Everton’s highest profile players over the past 5-6 years. He showed great promise in the season under Carlos - so fans probably have hope that he could somehow recapture that.
Could be a decent signing for Leeds or Sunderland.
What are you on about? No-one is arguing Weghorst is a world class striker. No one mentions he is in the league of the NL strikers you mention such are RVP, RVN, Makaay, Hasselbaink, Van Hooijdonk.
The only thing @90THMIN... mentions is that you aren't doing Wout his carreer justice by downsizing it to one specific moment. And rightfully so... I've been to Turkye lately and Besiktas fans are raving about him. He is the 2nd all-time goalscorer for VFL Wolfsburg in just 3.5 season. He
has apart from the 2 goals vs Argentina scored a lot of very important goals for NL in the last years.
Also in your attempt of bashing you make a lot of questionable claims.
- You are trying to put words in someones mouth.. 'he is not a one carreer moment striker' -> 'Do you really think this would have happened in a completely different time in history when NL was fulled with world class strikers'
- 'Even Luuk de Jong'. Luuk de Jong is one of the best headers in the world. Struggled when he was young at Newcastle and BMG, but later in his carreer was very valuable for both Barcelona and Sevilla (3 goals in EL semi finale/final).
- What does the fact that NL has a missive dry spell in strikers at the moment have anything to do that Wout's carreer is more than just the single highlight of the World Cup game against Argentina?
I think you are indeed only remembering Wout by his time at United, where he was used as a starting striker and/or even a starting number 10. Which are both horrible decisions. On a higher level Wout is nothing more than a (very capable) supersub and pinch hitter. Thats how Ajax uses him very effectively and that's how NL has almost always used him very effectively.
If United would have used Wout in a similar fashion as we used McTominay in ETH his last full season, we would have used him to his strenths a lot more and Im quite sure memories about him would have been a lot more positive. Yet we used him as a starting striker, for which he is NOWHERE good enough.
And no-one argues he is, but he deserves a lot more credit than his carreed being downgraded to a single game where he scored to good and important goals at the highest level.
PS: I despise the egocentric dramaqueen this is Wout Weghorst