Dominique Janssen

I read the transcript because I still dislike listening to him. He mentioned something about how much ground Janssen covers, and that people don't see that - as though we are stupid.

Anyway, one thing I have noticed is that she is one of the first to reach the goalscorers to celebrate. She's ace.
 
I read the transcript because I still dislike listening to him. He mentioned something about how much ground Janssen covers, and that people don't see that - as though we are stupid.

Anyway, one thing I have noticed is that she is one of the first to reach the goalscorers to celebrate. She's ace.
He's not totally wrong to be honest - hers is a traditionally underappreciated role. I remember the years people wondered what the point of Michael Carrick was - unless you specifically watched him (I did, I was watching midfielders before it was cool!!) it was only when you took him out of the team that you realised what was missing.
 
I read the transcript because I still dislike listening to him. He mentioned something about how much ground Janssen covers, and that people don't see that - as though we are stupid.

Anyway, one thing I have noticed is that she is one of the first to reach the goalscorers to celebrate. She's ace.
To be fair, I suspect that Skinner is talking about how much ground she covers off the ball as well as on it, which is something that casual fans might easily not notice. Indeed, it's difficult even for us serious fans to appreciate this if we're watching on TV or via a stream, with the camera focused almost exclusively on the ball and the players immediately around it.

Also, I like your observation that she is usually one of the first to join goal celebrations. That seems to me like one of those little things that might seem trivial to outsiders but maybe really matter to teammates.
 
@AmarilloMike and @Lobster11 - I agree with what you both say, and maybe my post was a bit harsh on him. I just found what he said a little patronising.

Of course he is right to sing Janssen's praises - she has made such a difference to the team and the industry of her and Miyazawa in tandem must be so frustrating for opponents.
 
What a player - what a professional. I think we are where we are this season largely because of her presence.

CDM - no problem. Miyazawa can do what she wants.

Millie Turner injured - no problem..I'll do that job


And last night - it was a ridiculous red-card decision but she did not say a word, just accepted it and walked off. It must have been tough for her to take but she did it with class.

Likewise MLT too, who listened to the (inadequate) referee's decisions with polite respect.

I am so proud of them.

Edit: So good to see her on the pitch at the end applauding the traveling reds.
 
Any news as to if United are appealing that straight red card decision?
 
Any news as to if United are appealing that straight red card decision?
I haven't seen anything yet despite lots of Google searches.

What I've been wondering is whether it is possible to appeal a decision that has already been "confirmed" by VAR, since it has already been "reviewed" in a sense. Does anybody know the rules about this? I have to think that the club will appeal if they are allowed to do so.
 
I haven't seen anything yet despite lots of Google searches.

What I've been wondering is whether it is possible to appeal a decision that has already been "confirmed" by VAR, since it has already been "reviewed" in a sense. Does anybody know the rules about this? I have to think that the club will appeal if they are allowed to do so.
It wasn’t confirmed by VAR. VAR cannot referee the game in lieu of the referee’s decisions. It can only advise the referee to take another look and even then the ref can decline to change their original decision.
 
Characteristics of a red card tackle
  • Excessive force:
    The challenge involves a level of force that is dangerous and goes beyond a normal tackle.

  • Endangering safety:
    The action jeopardizes the physical safety of the opponent, risking serious injury


 
The outcome (injury level) should not be the deciding factor. It’s the tackle itself.
Luke Shaw had his leg broken in several places and that tackle wasn’t even given as a free kick.
 
Any news as to if United are appealing that straight red card decision?
I've not read anything. Out of principle they should, but a straight red in Europe is only a one-match suspension so I doubt that they will.
 
The outcome (injury level) should not be the deciding factor. It’s the tackle itself.
Luke Shaw had his leg broken in several places and that tackle wasn’t even given as a free kick.
Penalty I think it should have been.... That player went on to get a yellow card (that should have been a second), score the winning goal and win player of the match!! To this day, no game of football has angered me more than that one.
 
Penalty I think it should have been.... That player went on to get a yellow card (that should have been a second), score the winning goal and win player of the match!! To this day, no game of football has angered me more than that one.
Yeah it was a disgraceful decision on the night.
 
It was just bad luck the player getting caught between the grass and the trailing leg was just really bad luck. It wasn't a red card but the VAR refs called it because the player got severely injured.