So good from Van Der Sar.
Donny van de Beek /beːk/| Manchester United Player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Absolute class letter from Van der Sar. And great news that he's at the top of their club for any more Ajax wonderkids who want to dream after a few years cutting their teeth in the dutch league with regular champions league experience (like Gravenberch).
Ajax really are a class outfit .
I'd expect our front pressing will be so formidable next season.
Martial, Rashford, VDB and Bruno pressing like mad dogs. We can win something, have faith.
Martial, Rashford, VDB and Bruno pressing like mad dogs. We can win something, have faith.
Well this is what happens when you ask for a fair price
Looks to me if we want to utilise him we are going to have to start crossing the ball in and crossing it in early too.
I'm all for that as we are a team who practically never crossed which I really feel hampers us. That said not sure we have the personell to do it.
I'm all for that as we are a team who practically never crossed which I really feel hampers us. That said not sure we have the personell to do it.
Just reading some of the stuff VdB has said after signing , with the way Ajax have Done this deal and their send off and the fact he took the no.34 for his friend and the story that comes with that . This guy is going to be a Fan favourite alright. Also OGS spoke about getting the right player in with the right mindset, We can see what Ole is building here . Welcome Donny ! Cant wait to see this lad
Yes I think Ole has bought him as a centre midfielder who will get into the box. In fact I would describe him as a cross between some elements of David Platt and Lampard, in style that is, with a bit of extra mobility.
We don’t get enough guys in the box when the ball is out wide primed for a cross.
Maybe he gets in as a regular but if he begins as a rotation option, he would be very useful to come off the bench with 25 / 30 to go. I’m not trying to sell him short but there will be stiff competition for midfield places. Thank feck.
Anyway, he improves us greatly and I wish him good fortune.
Donny Van Krizzly Bear, like I said.
Welcome to Donny.
Glad he didn't turn his beek up at us and decided to join.
Glad he didn't turn his beek up at us and decided to join.
That's not the correct pronunciation mate
Now it makes sense... Kranks.
Can someone with a better knowledge of Van De Beek tell me what kind of a player can we expect him to be? From what I read so far, he has exceptional movement and can get into the box and score goals. But his passing, creativity and technical ability are not of the highest level.
There are some comparisons to Lampard. In my eyes, maybe he is more like Muller. If he can get anywhere close to the goals and assists record of those two, then we have a hell of a player in our hands. But right now, I don’t see it. If he becomes a player who can consistently contribute 15 G/A per league season, then I’ll be happy.
There are some comparisons to Lampard. In my eyes, maybe he is more like Muller. If he can get anywhere close to the goals and assists record of those two, then we have a hell of a player in our hands. But right now, I don’t see it. If he becomes a player who can consistently contribute 15 G/A per league season, then I’ll be happy.
TV revenue was already paid out. And Ajax has made a lot of profit these past few years.
The main reason Ajax are so cooperative is because they made a deal with Donny. There was a lot of interest already for him last summer, but he decided to stay and in return Ajax would cooperate with a transfer this summer if the right club comes along. When he stayed they upped his wages, but he didn't extend.
Ziyech had a similar deal. And supposedly so do Onana and Tagliafico.
The understand between him anh Tadic is unreal. Same with the left back. Some of the passes Ziyech and Tadic are quality too. I think Bruno, Pogba, Martial and Greenwood could do that when they understand the way he moves during games.
Welcome to OT Donny. Watching his first interview and the way he described himself. I'm getting that Roy Keane vibe.
He's such an intelligent footballer I don't think it'll be long. Thank god we don't have Lukaku to point into imaginary spaces
That this could be someone a bit special? Yes, me too
Welcome to the greatest club in the world!!Hopefully this will go down in history as being a really consequential transfer...
Am I the only one that's finding this whole "we'll take good care of him", "please take good care of our sweet boy" sentiment a little cringe? He's a 23 year old professional footballer, not a 2 month old Labrador.
He's a good boy!
I'm not so sure about him. I guess 40m is the new 20m so might not end up as a flop, but I don't see him as a spectacular player. The idea of him just being a useful type of player is fine, but the step up is huge in terms of physicality and pace of the game. Either he takes the step up and becomes useful but not much more, or he doesn't take the step up and becomes useless as he doesn't possess any traits beyond that. I'm not sure about his technical abilities at the top level. His build isn't the best as his pace and power is mediocre, his passing is unspectacular. If he is a really good tackler or a shooter I don't know but he has to step up somewhere in there, imo.
For those that still needs help with his name pronounciation. I'm sorry it's not that Ø/Å woman.
It's not cringe but it is being overplayed a little.
If he's fast I'd call him Donny Van De Bike
Aye, it’s a nice touch but enough is enough.I’m not his biggest fan, not by a long way, but I wish that the club take good care of him.
Take him out for walks, give him a good brush.
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Some classy people those Dutch.
Seems like a promising signing, hopefully he does well
Now we can finally be assured that that resting bruno or pogba is not likely to cause a massive drop in quality
All true except that Ajax is swimming in money, they have done a few big transfers lately. It's a financially healthy 100 million turnover club and has been for years, if you sell a few players for 80 or 50 million each in only a couple of seasons there is no financial need to sell more players. The need to sell players comes from Ajax' place in international football. They can't compete for the best players in the world with clubs that pay ten times the net salary Ajax can afford, Ajax resigned to that fact more than 20 years ago. So they have a go at CL success with players who are young and about to become the best in the world or might fall only a little short. That didn't always work in the past because of the wrong managers and buying players with a low ceiling and having the best players leaving too soon for clubs too modest. But it looks like the club has found it's niche a few years ago.
The trick for Ajax is to keep their best/highest potential players for 3 or 4 years instead of 1, 2 or 3 years and season them in CL and UEFA cup in a stable well gelled team, and sell a few of them to the biggest clubs like Barca, Real, Utd and Juventus. Then they not only don't have to worry about the transfer fees, they are high enough in this category of deals, they also keep the players happy this way and it attracts fresh big talents. This way Ajax is the best career choice for very talented 18-20 year olds from all over the world and transfers like these show that to them. The academy and the number of kids to pick from just isn't big enough to produce good enough players for every position every year. It also allows them to plan for a replacement and have stability during preparation and CL qualification. If they keep this up they will be in the latter stages of the CL again in some of the coming years. So it would actually be quite stupid to try to hold on to Van den Beek and other best players and disrupt the continuity of what makes them successful.
I suggest you rewatch some of his matches. You didn’t describe him all too well there.
DMs are for chumps
No idea how. Maybe he means for certain games.
Against certain smaller teams maybe but it would be suicidal to do so in bigger games.
I can tell you're used to cases, but I don't think you will find anyone in the Netherlands agreeing with you. They would rather tell Germans to get rid of their bloody cases cause it makes the language hard to learn. (mit nach bei seit von zu aus gegenüber an...vorbei 'bis zu' - high school stuff of nightmares!)
'Beek' is pronounced pretty much exactly like the first 'e' in German 'geben'. English 'bake' comes very-very close. @Pagh Wraith is wright that 'bake' has a diphthong, as there is a kind of 'y' sound (English 'y') just before you get to the k. Skip that when pronouncing 'Beek' and you're golden.
Or just pronounce it exactly like 'bake' and you're really close. I don't think Donny will come and take care of you if you mispronounce it; he doesn't seem the type.
Yeah, i know how to pronounce it, since i can sortof speak German, maybe it was just my attemt to explain it to the others that was a bit bad :P
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