Ed Woodward - Same medicine for the patient, no new structure?

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  1. Apr 16, 2019

    Man-United Full Member

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    Woodward can't get much right.
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    AndyJ1985 New Member

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    Woodward belongs on the scrap heap with Ashley Young and Jesse Lingard
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    Kill 'em all Pastor of Muppets

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    Unfortunately unless the club starts making big losses and the Glazers end up selling it, I don't see any way we can get rid of Woodward and things will more than likely remain the same.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Woodward is just an extension of the Glazers. Getting rid of one without the other still means the foundations are rotting with infestation.
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    marktan Full Member

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    Yeah they've taken something like $1b out of the club over the last 15 years through debt payments and dividends, which is shocking in an time where oil clubs have been spending huge amounts.
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    ROFLUTION Full Member

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    Does anyone know how much debt we have left to pay off? Or just a brief summary of how much we annually pay off at the moment?

    This from the Guardian seems ridiculous to be fair:

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    7even Resident moaner, hypocrite and moron

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    I’m afraid we need new owners and with that a new CEO before we will see long term improvements. Today’s management and ownership is a total failure of epic proportions from a supporter perspective.
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    £500m won't cut it.

    We are going nowhere as a club.
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    PoTMS Full Member

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    Another addition to a long list of cnuts that don't deserve to be at this football club. Possibly the worst run supposedly world class football club in the world.
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    We will never compete with the current ownership.

    A for-profit business model cannot compete with Barca, Real, City and PSG.
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    Stepney73 New Member

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    The glazers can't milk this cow for much longer as we now look like group stage cannon fodder and are rapidly falling behind the top tier.
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    Crustanoid Full Member

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    Our owners don’t care about us winning major trophies, being an amazing footballing side and exciting the fans (hallmarks of United signs pre Glazers).

    All they care about is cold hard cash.

    All you need to know to understand the situation we’re in
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    Moriarty Full Member

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    It's a repeat of what happened to us after Matt Busby retired. It took 26 years to win another title. We did not learn from our own history despite all the promises from Fergie and Gill that a plan was in place for the succession.
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    ErranMorad New Member

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    Huge summer coming up for Eddie. I guess how this summer goes will tell us the true ambitions of this club. We need to have a monstrous summer. I am afraid that De Gea and Pogba will be agitating for moves too, so that'll be another headache that we'll have to deal with.

    Make or break for Eddie.
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    reddevil702 Full Member

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    I think it was Ogden who said this on twitter but when you look at how Ajax & United have progressed post Europa League final and the amount of money spent by both clubs, it really makes you wonder how Ed is not under more pressure internally.
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    Ayush_reddevil Full Member

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    It's a bit sad that till about three years back United and Liverpool were in virtually the same position. In fact United might have been slightly better and in 3 years the direction the clubs have taken it's just poles apart .Liverpool are now one of the best clubs in Europe. They might win the premier League or the champions League and they made the champions League final last year while we are finishing 6th with absolutely no clue what we're doing. Worst thing is that we just never seem to learn and keep making the same mistakes.How is Woodward still in the job
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    Pennywise New Member

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    Spot on. Woodward going wouldnt make a jot of difference. We need owners with a plan and desire to compete for the top prizes
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Because Man United are so rich that the CEO can sanction big spending and shift the blame somewhere else. A CEO's job is to set the culture and organise the business, not get a tractor sponsorship.
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    Moriarty Full Member

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    They bought the club to maximize commercial revenue. They saw an opportunity to do that and have done it well. There was no plan for what would happen post-Fergie but by them, the revenue streams were established so it didn't really matter.
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    Patrick08 New Member

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    This will be the new expensive arsenal if he is in charge any longer.
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    At this stage, there does not look like much room for significant growth.

    Match day revenue has plateaued out for a few years.

    The recent TV deal saw no growth whatsoever.

    Commercial has matured. Maybe add another rice partner here and there.

    Time to sell please.
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    Patrick08 New Member

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    We needed a top new in demand manager in place and rivals stole the race for them while moronic Woodward arrogance is running us into the ground. I dont blame glazers for providing 400m.
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    This club has no direction and it's been like that ever since Woodward came in.
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    ErranMorad New Member

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    Arsenal regularly finished in the top 4 & played much better football. This is heading in the Liverpool direction.
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    Moriarty Full Member

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    They were probably hoping for more control over TV rights which would have meant no end to the bastards. If they sell, who would buy? There aren't too many around that could afford it, barring an oil nation.
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    Patrick08 New Member

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    Time to fly a banner over oldtrafford, sort this mess out.
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    LuisNaniencia Sky Sports called my bluff

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    If Woody's performance was being judged on how successful the club has been, he'd have been long gone.

    So what's his performance being judged on?
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    Patrick08 New Member

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    The worst is yet to come with brexit.
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    Patrick08 New Member

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    Profits and revenue
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    LuisNaniencia Sky Sports called my bluff

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    Correct.
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    Ahsan_6386 New Member

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    Brace yourself a Woodward transfer briefing will surely be coming soon now . He always has one ready after a big defeat to confuse the fan base .
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    Moriarty Full Member

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    Like any CEO, the bottom line. As long as the shareholders are happy, that's his duty done.
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    How the club is run is the issue, we have spent a shitloads over the last 6 years any other club that spent the money we have would have had a title winning team by now. We need footballing people making decisions to do with the footballing side of things.

    This is never going to happen as the glazers will never get rid of Woodward, the only chance of ridding ourself of him is by new owners, but the only people who could afford us and would realistically buy us are the Saudis, it’s a fecked up situation we are in
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    Commercial revenues have been flat for three years now - market saturation/years of poor performance on the pitch finally catching up with us.
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    Moriarty Full Member

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    Woodward confuses only the credulous.
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    Crustanoid Full Member

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    We’re never going to challenge with these owners
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    Kush Full Member

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    We spend enough money, I can’t be arsed to pull up the numbers but in last 6 years our transfer fee and wages would rival those flushed with oil money. We just spend that money extremely poorly on fees and wages. Also, that it is possible to not play football that makes you want to gouge your eye out even with players who are not top draw.

    The biggest reason for that is we have no footballing structure in place. We have an ultra bloated scouting system who can’t spot any top talent for shit working in conjunction with an all powerful manager. To top it all off we have a banker turner CEO sitting at top of footballing heirarchy who can veto those decisions. Is it really that big a surprise when we are in current state?
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    Im red2 Prophet of Doom

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    Kapardin New Member

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    What we saw today was Ed's incompetence of 4 years coming full circle. I have no faith in him even if Ole turns out to be successful. He needs to go, but unfortunately we appear to be stuck with him. Both stupid as well as stubborn to retain power, a dangerous combination.

    "We don't want a massive churn of players every summer" - he said this in an investors call. Fantastic assessment of our squad I reckon, speaks volumes about his perceptiveness and planning. Well, we bloody need a big "churn" and he'd better get started.
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