Wish we could work a swap deal and cash for him using Ugarte.
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oooh yes please
I think he could be. Back to back Serie A TOTS, back to back Atalanta player's player of the season (even with Retegui's goalscoring feats). Huge part of their winning Europa League campaign last year.
Physical midfielder who's also very progressive with his passing and ball carrying. What's not to love.
[TIP = Team in possession]
The fact that almost 50% of his passes are line breakers and he still maintains such a high accuracy is outstandingly good.
Who is tier 1 that you feel is obtainable for us?
I don't think there are any. That's my point.
Yeah will have to shop in tiers 2 and 3 for one
He would be great. My number one midfield target considering what Amorim likes in a midfield and what is obtainable. I hope we push for him.
Are we even linked to him? Last three pages is people who never watched him discussing whether he would be good enough
We have been linked throughout the season a bit by mid tier sources, but nothing lately. I just think we need at least one midfielder this summer, so hope it is a quality one we go for.
I know very little about him, but by all accounts he's very athletic, quick, and strong, while also being technically gifted and good at progressing the ball. It sounds perfect, exactly what we need.
Having said that, I haven't seen any actual links, we can probably file this under sounds too good to be true.
Having said that, I haven't seen any actual links, we can probably file this under sounds too good to be true.
A player I have admired for a long time and one I hope we find a way to sign. Think he would add a lot to our team. If we could do a part exchange type deal with maybe Hojlund going back to Atalanta, that would work well for us. I've seen the diea of swapping Ugarte for him, but ideally I would want to pair Ugarte with him. Been a tough season for Manuel but he's shown a lot in flashes, and I think with a full pre-season, and a year in the PL under his belt, he will potentially be an very important player for us next season. He's still only 24. I think there's much more to come from him. He has also worked well in Amorim systems in the past.
Not too sure about the tier nonsense, but someone like Rovella would compliment Bruno.
However, Amorim has expressed the need for more physicality in our side, so not sure if Rovella fits the profile.
Yes he's really good and someone people have been banging on about for a few years now, but, realistically, he was only ever a UCL target for United (if he was ever a target at all). Not sure who we'll end up with in midfield next season, but fairly sure Ederson won't be among them.
I saw him in the Super cup against Madrid, he was playing as a 6. Looked very tidy on the ball, press resistant and physical beast. Exactly the player we need. Not sure whether it was his normal level, but he is somebody who should complement all of our midfielders.
If the rumours are to be believed, Amorim is targeting three new attacking signings this summer. That kind of overhaul up front likely signals a tactical shift — most notably, Bruno dropping deeper into the pivot role. In that scenario, a midfield pairing of Ugarte and Ederson seems unlikely unless Bruno is on his way out. Even then, you’d have to wonder where the creative spark would come from in such a setup.
Hmmm that sounds more positive
There’s a difference between being positive and being realistic —and when you look at Ederson's performances, the reality is clear. Even in that game, whenever he was given the license to push forward, he took it. As mentioned earlier, it was Roon who stayed back and did the holding work.
So if you're pairing him with Bruno in a double pivot, the obvious question is: who takes on that disciplined, deeper role?
This is where Manchester United's transfer strategy often raises eyebrows. We have a habit of buying players who’ve thrived in completely different roles at their previous clubs, then expecting them to seamlessly adapt. It’s no wonder so many end up struggling.
If we do go for him, there’s every chance he ends up playing a more reserved role and does well. But based on our track record, it wouldn’t be a surprise me if he doesn't settle well.
What we actually need is a younger version of Casemiro—not just someone with legs, but someone who truly understands the role. A player who can sit in front of the defence, read the game, break up play, and distribute the ball with purpose. Ideally, a bit more composure and technical quality on the ball wouldn’t go amiss either.
If United secure the attacking signings we've been linked with, there’s a strong case for holding off on any major midfield moves—at least for now. The midfield, while not spectacular, is relatively steady at the moment. The real issue has been a lack of goals, and the truth is, a truly top-class forward line can paper over a lot of cracks elsewhere. In football, goals win games—and an elite attack has the potential to carry us through tight matches, especially when the margins are thin.
By taking that approach, we buy ourselves time. Next summer, when the market opens up again, we can look to make a more calculated investment in midfield—someone like Adam Wharton, for example, or a player of that profile: calm on the ball, intelligent in build-up, and capable of anchoring the play.
It’ll also be worth keeping an eye on Sekou Kone. If he develops well over the coming season, he could emerge as a serious option in that role too.
Lovely, expecting them to sign Mbuemo and one of Gyokeres/Sesko before the end of the window as well after at this rate
I’d rather send them back Hojlund.
Ugarte will stay for depth in midfield.
Like Chelsea in the past, they just go for whoever we intend to sign.... Lazy bastards
Watch him become highly rated on here now 
I’m cautious about this. Who was the last successful transfer from Serie A to the premier league? Same question regarding midfielders?
You could say Bruno came via Italy, but im not convinced theres a reliable stream of talent leaving the country. The level is lower, which makes it very speculative.
It seems like portuguese or spanish midfields do very well in the central areas.
You could say Bruno came via Italy, but im not convinced theres a reliable stream of talent leaving the country. The level is lower, which makes it very speculative.
It seems like portuguese or spanish midfields do very well in the central areas.
Tonali.
If you ignore the betting issues, since he’s come back from that he’s done well.
Funny they got Frimpong, city buying Cherki too at really good fees and a player we desperately need is not a target somehow
I would only get Ederson if we sell Ugarte. He's an upgrade on him in every regard, but as an additional CM I would prefer someone with better passing skills and overall build up play (although my no.1 target of that player type would be Baleba). Both Jashari and Hugo Larsson would be my picks for the additional CM.
Bruno wasn’t a big success in Italy, he had to go back to Portugal to fulfil his potential.
I got a feeling top players that breakthrough in Italy do not come to England often (We don’t get the likes of Bonucci, Kvara and Osimhen). Most PL recruits from there have been youngsters with potential or quite unconfirmed players… Some succeed and some don’t.
The way I see it's almost the opposite, as in that they would make most sense as a partnership and not instead of each other, at least judging by their statistical profiles: Edersons big weakness is seemingly his lack of defensive involvements (where Ugarte excels), and Ugartes big weakness is his lack of progressive play both in terms of passing and in carries (where Ederson excels).
I'm not that familiar with Edersons game but to me he seems like a physical, mobile, and progressive player, and if he is able to be positionally aware/disciplined as a CM I would say that he could form a partnership with either Ugarte/Mainoo and that our central midfield would become a much more balanced unit as a result.
A midfield duo of him and Ugarte would be too limited. No build up play at all.
Like Chelsea in the past, they just go for whoever we intend to sign.... Lazy bastards
this would be the worst transfer strategy imaginable
You might very well be right - and most duos with Ugarte in them would have their limitations with regards to build up and progressive play, but he would offer some other things as part of that duo though (such as defensive all action involvements, sort of say). IMO it's about trying to find that midfield balance as we don't have it at all now. With Ugarte/Mainoo the build up and creativity might be "delegated" to the other CM as well as the AMs and WBs, while they play their parts in making the duo and team work.
Yea that's why I am saying that ederson would only make sense if we sell Ugarte. If not, I would go after someone who excells in passing from the deep. Especially if we lose Bruno we need someone capable of that.
Question is which player fits that profile
Yeah I see that, and I guess what I'm saying is that Ederson/Ugarte would at least be a better balanced duo then what we have today. Who would you either pair Ederson with or buy instead?
Hugo Larsson or Ardon Jashari
Think if we want a player who progresses the ball from deep, Angelo Stiller would be the guy to get. Larsson and Jashari are good plan B's though
I feel like the system would probably work better with an Ugarte and Ederson. Their energy and intensity to be able to cover ground as to me midfield is our current biggest weakness. Feel like all issues really emanate from there.
The lack of energy and ability to cover ground meaning the wingbacks play scared not willing to fully commit, also the best combo in terms of ability is probably Bruno and Cas but those two are easily beaten with one simple pass as Bruno isn’t a CM and Cas isn’t a miracle worker that can cover Bruno being out of position.
Cunha, Amad, Mount, Mainoo can come deeper collect a ball, turn people, dribble out of problems creating space and can all pass a ball. Ugarte and Ederson are good enough to play a ball in to them or out to the wingbacks which is how the system works.
That’s just how I see the system working but if you offered me a Carrick or Alonso ability wise player well then yes in a heartbeat. Score the system.
You have answered the problem to the ederson and ugarte midfield right here. If players in attacking positions have to come deep to make things happen you already have problem. It gives the opposition defence a chance to settle. Atleast one of your midfielders ideally both should be able to progress play on a consistent basis.
if he can’t pass between the lines or isn’t comfortable under pressure on the ball then it’s a pass.
I think this is sensible. Signing players that have a weakness and then trying to sign another player to make up for the 1st players weakness has been a running theme over the past 10 years. A Manchester United midfielder should be a good passer of the ball.
We can’t really say much though as it’s exactly what we did with city. Although they played us… Maguire, Fred, Ronaldo, Sanchez, just a fewLike Chelsea in the past, they just go for whoever we intend to sign.... Lazy bastards