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SATA

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That miss when Becker mispassed, he really should be burying that into the empty net. Instead he sort of lost his composure and hurriedly took the shot
 

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It's quite remarkable how he looks like the most dangerous warrior on the pitch but when you see him in interviews or on his Insta page, when he smiles he looks like the nicest and most lovely person on earth. It's like night and day haha.

I was never a fan during his career but i really started to like this guy the last few months. Happy to have him another year.
 

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The times I saw cavani for PSG, he did seem to miss some sitters, but it would be glossed over due to the number of chances created.
He wasnt the reason we lost (his miss was at 0-0 right and we still took the lead)
It is yet another example. Don't bother press Alison and the chance wouldn't have materialised. Should have dragged the marker and heeled it into Rashford's path clearly.

But then, that would be boring, would have been far more fun if it wound up being a new edition of Forlan scoring from a Dudek clanger... then scoring again.

The football gods are shit scriptwriters sometimes.
 

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Guy is a fecking legend and I have nothing more to say.

If he stays fit next season I expect him to challenge for the golden boot.

Hopefully a 30 goals season incoming.
 

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but yeah, not just his goal, but his Tevez-esque work rate and general play are phenomenal, too. Nearly bagged himself a nice assist; putting Greenwood 1-on-1 with nipple.
 

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He can finish in all type of situations if he gets good delivery. Our best striker since RVP
 

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Super goal, though fortunate it wasn't given as offside, unless Fernandes got a slight touch to De Gea's pass. Set up Greenwood's big chance in the 2nd half. Other than that, we failed to get Cavani involved enough. Worked hard as usual.
 

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Sorry about all those times I yelled about you being overrated on Fifa back in the day Edinson. Anyone else care to own up and apologise :lol:
 

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Gave the fans something special on their return. He hit it with such finesse and made it look easy
The fact that he was wasted at PSG last year is nothing less than a crime. Could have joined some other team or us. Anyways something better than nothing. A fit and firing cavani next season is what we fans need.
 

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Scored some great goals for us this season. Happy to see him finally appreciated by the home support.
 

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He looked angry after the final whistle to say the least. Hope our players who've been here for years will take note that drawing such games is unaccteptable for Man United.
 

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The fact that he was wasted at PSG last year is nothing less than a crime. Could have joined some other team or us. Anyways something better than nothing. A fit and firing cavani next season is what we fans need.
He wasn’t wasted, he was constantly injured, self-inflicted injuries as well, which is never a good sign for an aging player. That being said, I’m really glad people here get to see just how great of a person and player he is. I hope he manages to stay healthy, he’s one of my favorite person in football.
 

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Ok, his goal was probably offside but what a way to introduce yourself to the home fans.
But the assist was given to Bruno, so he wasn’t.
It wouldn't have been offside whether he touched it or not anyway. The simple act of Fernandes attempting to play the ball makes him active, and the start of a new phase of play.

If it was the other way and Cavani started onside, then ran offside and the 'flick/dummy' happened they'd say he's interefering with play and distracting the defenders.
 
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It wouldn't have been offside whether he touched it or not anyway. The simple act of Fernandes attempting to play the ball makes him active, and the start of a new phase of play.

If it was the other way and Cavani started onside, then ran offside and the 'flick/dummy' happened they'd say he's interefering with play and distracting the defenders.
thats Just not correct. He has to touch it to be onside.
 

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thats Just not correct. He has to touch it to be onside.
Nope. If a player in an offside position runs towards the ball and pretends to kick it but doesn't he'll be deemed offside for interfering with play.

What's the difference there between Fernandes glancing the ball but not deviating it, or what he ended up doing? nothing at all.
 

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Nope. If a player in an offside position runs towards the ball and pretends to kick it but doesn't he'll be deemed offside for interfering with play.

What's the difference there between Fernandes glancing the ball but not deviating it, or what he ended up doing? nothing at all.
Apart from the rules.
 

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Apart from the rules.
Show me where it says that? cheers.

edit : I'll do it for you. Last line.

@ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
 
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The way he struck that was just class. It's like he knew 100% that it was going in before he even struck it. Didn't even look phased when he hit it, kinda just a chill vibe when he hit it.
 

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Show me where it says that? cheers.
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside#:~:text=A player is in an,and the second-last opponent

'A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used'

You are offside from the moment the ball is touched either intentionally or accidentally - 'contact' being the important word in their rule. Bruno waving his foot near it does not constitute him now being 'active'. Being 'active' only refers to a player in an offside position.

You're right in that there's no real difference, apart from in the rules.

We've seen VAR decisions before where a goal was called offside and then it deemed that the ball didn't come off the attacker and the original ball was played when the scorer was in an onside position. Under your rules if Bruno sent in a cross and say Cavani goes to head it but just misses it and then it comes to Greenwood who finishes it, Greenwood could be offside if he had run into an 'offside' position when Cavani tried to head it as Cavani 'was attempting to play the ball, thereby making him active and starting a new phase of play'. When in reality Greenwood was onside when Bruno sent in the cross and ran behind the defenders to meet it.
 

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https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside#:~:text=A player is in an,and the second-last opponent

'A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used'

You are offside from the moment the ball is touched either intentionally or accidentally. Bruno waving his foot near it does not constitute him now being 'active'. Being 'active' only refers to a player in an offside position.

You're right in that there's no real difference, but unfortunately the rules don't reflect that.

We've seen VAR decisions before where a goal was called offside and then it deemed that the ball didn't come off the attacker and the original ball was played when the scorer was in an onside position. Under your rules if Bruno sent in a cross and say Cavani goes to head it but just misses it and then it comes to Greenwood who finishes it, Greenwood could be offside if he had run into an 'offside' position when Cavani tried to head it as Cavani 'was attempting to play the ball, thereby making him active and starting a new phase of play'. When in reality Greenwood was onside when Bruno sent in the cross and ran behind the defenders to meet it.
Eh? Bruno himself is onside so the rules make no difference for him. It's Cavani that is offside. The moment Bruno attempts to play the ball (which he does attempt by moving towards the ball and flicking at it) makes him active. This resets the phase of play and then makes Cavani onside from that moment.

You could also argue that by Bruno moving towards the ball and attempting the flick, he stops the opponent receiving the ball. Look at 7 seconds in the below video. He is now active and interfering with play. Bruno not touching the ball by the tiniest margins makes no difference as it's his actions that deceive the defenders rather than the flick itself. That's point 3 in the rules you posted. Either way it's a perfectly legal goal.

 

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Eh? Bruno himself is onside so the rules make no difference for him. It's Cavani that is offside. The moment Bruno attempts to play the ball (which he does attempt by moving towards the ball and flicking at it) makes him active. This resets the phase of play and then makes Cavani onside from that moment.

You could also argue that by Bruno moving towards the ball and attempting the flick, he stops the opponent receiving the ball. Look at 7 seconds in the below video. He is now active and interfering with play. Bruno not touching the ball by the tiniest margins makes no difference as it's his actions that deceive the defenders rather than the flick itself. That's point 3 in the rules you posted. Either way it's a perfectly legal goal.

But he doesn't touch it. It doesn't matter if he's active or not active. All players in onside positions are active. Active and inactive only refers to players in offside positions as a way to denote whether them being offside had any effect on the game and therefore constitutes a free kick being given.

Point 3 in the rules I posted are referring specifically to players in offside positions. The operative rule being a payer is deemed offside from the 'The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used' . Contact being the important rule here. Bruno didn't make contact. The first point of contact was made by De Gea. CONTACT.

'The moment Bruno attempts to play the ball (which he does attempt by moving towards the ball and flicking at it) makes him active. This resets the phase of play and then makes Cavani onside from that moment.' What you are saying here is just you using words you've heard used in an incorrect context.

Bruno not touching the ball makes no difference in a real sense, yes. But in regards to the rules they make all the difference. The issue with interpreting the rules as you do is it's down to subjectivity, there's a an area of grey. How close to getting the ball would Bruno have to be? As the rules currently are its a binary decision. Where was the first point of contact made before the player received the ball?
 

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But he doesn't touch it. It doesn't matter if he's active or not active. All players in onside positions are active. Active and inactive only refers to players in offside positions as a way to denote whether them being offside had any effect on the game and therefore constitutes a free kick being given.

Point 3 in the rules I posted are referring specifically to players in offside positions. The operative rule being a payer is deemed offside from the 'The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used' . Contact being the important rule here. Bruno didn't make contact. The first point of contact was made by De Gea. CONTACT.

'The moment Bruno attempts to play the ball (which he does attempt by moving towards the ball and flicking at it) makes him active. This resets the phase of play and then makes Cavani onside from that moment.' What you are saying here is just you using words you've heard used in an incorrect context.

Bruno not touching the ball makes no difference in a real sense, yes. But in regards to the rules they make all the difference. The issue with interpreting the rules as you do is it's down to subjectivity, there's a an area of grey. How close to getting the ball would Bruno have to be? As the rules currently are its a binary decision. Where was the first point of contact made before the player received the ball?
You can play the ball without touching it. You can't be offside and dummy over the ball can you?

How about when standing in front of a goalkeeper and blocking their vision?

He's onside, it's a goal.
 

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You gradually form impressions of posters as you see them post. The impression I've gathered of Adam-Utd is that nobody has ever actually explained the rules of football to him and he spends his time watching games with the sound on mute trying to guess what they might be.
 

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You can play the ball without touching it. You can't be offside and dummy over the ball can you?

How about when standing in front of a goalkeeper and blocking their vision?

He's onside, it's a goal.
You can 'play the ball' without touching it, true. But the rules for offside explicitly state that they make the decision based on the first point of CONTACT. Maybe you're struggling with the word:

Contact

noun

/ˈkɒntakt/
  1. 1.
    the state of physical touching.
    "equipment in contact with water can benefit from rubber lining"

Because what you're talking about is player becoming active when they are in offside positions. ALL players onside and on the pitch are active. Active and inactive is only used as part of discerning if someone is interfering with play when in an offside position. If you want to change the rules then fine, make your own breakaway Adam-Utd Football Union. We'll carry on watching Football League. In the meantime you're just wrong.
 
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