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Were you playing as United? They are hard coded rivals and the AI aggressiveness increases when you play them.
I was. Is it only Liverpool? Played City after them and it was like going from Superstar to Easy.

Every sports game ever made has AI cheating to make you lose built in.
I've only seen this before in Football Manager

Yep it definitely does this. Just has your -players pass the ball wide or over even if you play them in with an open goal, and usually doesn't let you attack in the first place by having players do completely different things to what you're pressing on your controller. Just really lazy AI and ruins the game quite a bit for me.

When you play Liverpool I think more you need to move the ball quicker as they are set as a rival and also play with high pressing tactics anyway. I've managed to beat them a few times, and I definitley don't win 14 out of 15 games. I play as United and they suck on this (not inaccurately)...I struggle to build up funds to really improve the team and don't want to start with an increased budget as I actually find the fact it's challenging makes it more fun (apart from the cheating AI). Managed to win the league in my 3rd season but it was a struggle.

I think generally the team ratings are about right. Actually quite impressed with some of the detail. You play Burnley for example and they just punt the ball up to Barnes.
Yup United suck. I don't play ML, just the normal league, so I'm stuck with the shitty united. That being said, James, Rashford and Martial are an ok front 3 as long as you don't play possession football. The Liverpool game just shocked me. I'm back to winning / drawing against City, Spurs etc.

Yeah, when the AI decides you're not winning then you're not winning. You can see it coming too when your players can't pass the ball out of your half. It's best to get a couple of fouls in then to slow down the momentum.
I'll try that next time.
 

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I still find it extremely difficult. Wish there was something between Superstar and Legend.
I don't play offline modes, especially since you can't earn gp in them anymore so I havent even tried that difficulty until now that there's an even in myclub which gets you a legend player if you can beat the comp on legend. I can imagine that if i played Master league and such tedium, legend would be quite taxing in the long run, mind numbing, but since I only have to play a couple of games it's an interesting challenge.

On previous versions (19, 18) I found legend to be almost unbeatable, but this year it was relatively easy. Score a goal first and then keep the ball in defence. I've pingponged the opposition lone striker from left to right, and wasted all the time without the AI ever trying to press with more numbers.
 

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Having a bit of trouble on aerial game, either it's a long vertical ball into the striker and crosses: I always mistime the jump. Any tips?
 

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I just won 5 star Barcelona player scout, so to get messi would I be best to now target 5 star Argentina player?
 

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I just won 5 star Barcelona player scout, so to get messi would I be best to now target 5 star Argentina player?
Either 5* Argentina or 5* Roaming Flank will work.

Your 3rd option would be to sign Carles Perez from Barca, then get a 5* RWF and having Perez already will mean you then have 100% chance of getting Messi. But overall, just target which is the cheapest of the 3 scouts.
 

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Getting a new update tomorrow with 50 new faces,including Halaand,Ibrahimovic and hopefully Williams.
Update in transfer too.

Been meaning to start a new ML season with United.
 

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Getting a new update tomorrow with 50 new faces,including Halaand,Ibrahimovic and hopefully Williams.
Update in transfer too.

Been meaning to start a new ML season with United.
The update is already out, Thursday is update day for PES.

Bruno & Ighalo are both at United, I think a few more youngsters have been added too. No face for Williams but he has been upgraded to a level 73.
 

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The update is already out, Thursday is update day for PES.

Bruno & Ighalo are both at United, I think a few more youngsters have been added too. No face for Williams but he has been upgraded to a level 73.
Sweeeeeeeet.
 

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Is there a way to uninstall or roll back a data pack?

The latest one Konami have released has completely ruined the game. The ball just bounces off players in random directions and then the players don't react to it. Or sometimes they seem to weirdly float backwards.

Just been trying to play ML but now even with top level players you can't even string a basic passing move together
 

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So I can't be arsed to give money to either Konami or EA for years now because they keep recycling same shite over and over again, but I just recently found out this PES Lite version, which is basically like full version without offline goodies(which I don't care about anyway), how is this sustainable for Konami? Are there lots of dirty microtransactions in the game that make up for it being free?
 
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This new update has completely wrecked the game. The pace of the game is too fast,the AI is clearly not affected by stamina,the opposition are now hilariously overly physical. Its just a mess.
 

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I was about to ask if this was worth buying....

Not a fan of fifa this year, and I've liked the look of this on the youtubes. This recent update doesn't sound good, though...
 

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Pace of the game too fast? I haven't played PES in a few years now, but this is most sluggish and slow PES I have ever played. Especially player reactions, atrocious.
 

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Such a frustrating game against the AI on Superstar. Any freekick given to the COM team in the vicinity of 35 yards or nearer is practically a direct goal.

And I played around with the COM team ,on the same difficulty, in a friendly and swapped the set-piece takers for the goalkeeper,in this case Joe Hart, and yep same output. Joe Hart is a goal-scoring free-kick god,who knew ?
Laughably broken game at times.
 

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I see PES2020 is down to £16/£17 on the PS Store, is it worth picking up?

Also any good recommendations for option files. Been years since I had a PES game.
 

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This game can feck right off. Cheating bastard AI. Playing Become a Legend and I'm (Ajax) ten points clear at the top. Then, all of a sudden, my AI turn into relegation fodder. Can't pass, or dribble, or shoot, or even do anything right. Coincidentally, the opposition defenders turn into prime Moore vs. Brazil '70. Lost the 10 point gap and finished 3rd. Feck off.
 

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Why do so many of you play against AI when there are so many online modes? Genuinely curious, I havent played an offline mod for at least ten years.
 

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Why do so many of you play against AI when there are so many online modes? Genuinely curious, I havent played an offline mod for at least ten years.
Because you can't play a realistic game versus anyone online. At least the AI play at a somewhat slowish tempo; but when you play online every cnut wants to ping pong it and long diagonal over the top. There's no fun in that.
 

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I bought this a couple of days ago since it cost like 6 euros on the PS store, but I just can't seem to make any sense of the online modes. I just want to play Master League with a friend online in co-op. We finally figured out how you can play a one-of co-op match by creating a clan, having the other join it and then start a clan match, but these matches are so meaningless. There doesn't seem to be a way to play a league, tournament or whatever together. We tried doing share play and while it technically works, the quality is so bad for the one playing as guest that it's virtually unplayable, even though we both have fast internet.

Why is this so hard? How can it be 2020 and we still don't have convenient and workable online in games? Are we missing something or is it just not possible to do this (which would be pathetic in my opinion)? Can't find any decent solutions on google, so I'd appreciate any help.
 

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A new Update File (Data Pack 7.00 & Patch 1.07.00) was released on 04/06/2020.
See below for details.

■ UEFA EURO 2020™ Exclusive Content
・ Official UEFA EURO 2020™ license added along with several new cinematics and animations
・ New stadiums, including Wembley Stadium and Gazprom Arena
・ UEFA EURO 2020™ added to Cup Mode
・ UEFA EURO 2020™ added to Master League and Become a Legend
・ UEFA EURO 2020™ added to Local Match mode
・ Official UEFA EURO 2020™ match ball added

■ Updates and Additions
・ New season data for Campeonato AFP PlanVital (Chile) implemented
・ Updated club team strips
・ Updated national team strips
・ Updated club team emblems
・ New/updated face models
・ New/updated player portraits
・ New manager portraits
・ Updated player names

■ Other Changes
myClub
・ Added the option to select national teams as your Base Team.

■ Fixes
myClub
・ An issue that caused the incorrect Team Strength values to be displayed in the Squad List for all teams that include players from the Iconic Moment Series. This issue was triggered by using a Matchday team that differs from your Base Team.
・ An issue where the Team Strength Level filter for matchmaking in Ranked Matches did not work correctly. This issue was triggered by switching to a normal squad from a Club Edition Squad that differed from your Base Team.

Gameplay
・ An issue which sometimes causes lofted passes kicked with a full power gauge to fall short of their target when using Manual Controls.

■ Other Updates
A variety of minor adjustments have been made to each mode to improve the overall gaming experience.
 

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I was playing it yesterday and something is definitely different. It seems better somehow but can't put my finger on why.

This game can feck right off. Cheating bastard AI. Playing Become a Legend and I'm (Ajax) ten points clear at the top. Then, all of a sudden, my AI turn into relegation fodder. Can't pass, or dribble, or shoot, or even do anything right. Coincidentally, the opposition defenders turn into prime Moore vs. Brazil '70. Lost the 10 point gap and finished 3rd. Feck off.
The scripted AI really takes so much away from this game. So much about it is so realistic and yet 90% of the games in any game mode outside of a friendly match, you feel like the AI has already decided whether you will win or not and it's simply not in your control.

It also just scores the same goal over and over where it plays a through ball you can do nothing about and then boots the ball into the net at 700 miles an hour.

Still fun to play when it's not being a prick but when it is it's infuriating.
 

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I've only been playing this since last week and I'm already sick of it. Playing against the AI is garbage since I fecking hate how you're constantly dragged into a physical battle where the AI seems to get all sorts of advantages. A striker through on goal constantly seems to get pulled back by AI defenders and obstructed from behind to take a proper shot, but this never seems to result in a foul, let alone the red card it should be according to the laws of the game. So I want to play online, but I literally cannot get a single opponent in any game mode, no matter how many times I try, even though all my other games work perfectly fine online.

I paid 6 euros for this and I still feel scammed. This games doesn't seem to function properly.
 

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I am currently playing PES 5..

It is awesome.

I think it helps that I haven't played a football game in about 2 years, but yeah, i'm having a blast with it.
 

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I'm thinking of getting this (14 quid on ebay)

I played PES from PES5 to 2014 (PC) then got a PS4 and switched to FIFA (from 16 to now)

This year's FIFA is particularly awful. I just want to enjoy playing a football game again.

Is this one any good?
 

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I'm thinking of getting this (14 quid on ebay)

I played PES from PES5 to 2014 (PC) then got a PS4 and switched to FIFA (from 16 to now)

This year's FIFA is particularly awful. I just want to enjoy playing a football game again.

Is this one any good?
I didn't really justify the cost. Seems to be putting too much focus on the MyClub (BTec FUT), rather than old gems like Master League.

Online matches are a bit annoying, as if you're a lower team and asked to be ranked to someone similar, you probably won't find anyone. Yet if you take those restrictions off, you'll just get matched with Bayern, Barca, Juventus etc. whoever you pick.

Gameplay wise it's great, animations are really realistic and the football is smooth. Quite hard to score goals, and satisfying when you do, too.

Just a shame that playing online is tiresome and dull.
 

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I'm thinking of getting this (14 quid on ebay)

I played PES from PES5 to 2014 (PC) then got a PS4 and switched to FIFA (from 16 to now)

This year's FIFA is particularly awful. I just want to enjoy playing a football game again.

Is this one any good?
Depends what day you pick it up (and play).
Some days it plays brilliantly, while other days you want to throw your controller at the screen.
 

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Why do so many of you play against AI when there are so many online modes? Genuinely curious, I havent played an offline mod for at least ten years.
Connections lagging and too much connections lost
Many times I had to wait for 15+ mins just for an online game, to get few of those trophies only to end up with another connection lost after connected briefly.
Its frustrating, annoying and waste of time.

Offline mode is immediate and anytime. Plus master league is still awesome team building at our own pace.
 
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:D Didn't know there was a thread for this.

I'm not an expert, but a simple tip for those who struggle at master league with United or any other teams, just improve the "chemistry" to 80 minimum and the game will now start getting too easy. Some players can improve the bar quickly or boost it just by being in the 11, so pick them first.

Improve the team "chemistry" is the key. That's it. Players individual stats matters less.

Even a weaker team is still doable and fairly easy to win in highest difficulty if the chemistry is high. Few certain goals will still happen though, can't stop it, scripted to happen but your team should be enough to score more and lead by 2 goals most of the time.

The only problem is when you start, the first roughly 15 games can be annoying as your chemistry is still low.
 

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All sports games should be seasonal updates with major releases every 3-4 years because charging £50 for the same game every year is a joke. I really hope PES 2022 will be worth picking up and they don't focus only on gameplay. We know that the game should look great since it's gonna be on UE but I really really hope they finally do some work on other areas of the game which have been neglected for the past 15 years like sound, presentation and terrible UI. Probably a false hope but if they can't do it now in 2 years they probably never will.
 

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:D Didn't know there was a thread for this.

I'm not an expert, but a simple tip for those who struggle at master league with United or any other teams, just improve the "chemistry" to 80 minimum and the game will now start getting too easy. Some players can improve the bar quickly or boost it just by being in the 11, so pick them first.

Improve the team "chemistry" is the key. That's it. Players individual stats matters less.

Even a weaker team is still doable and fairly easy to win in highest difficulty if the chemistry is high. Few certain goals will still happen though, can't stop it, scripted to happen but your team should be enough to score more and lead by 2 goals most of the time.

The only problem is when you start, the first roughly 15 games can be annoying as your chemistry is still low.
Yeah it's definitely the biggest factor. It's a bit dumb as if you want to change your teams tactics or style the chemistry takes a massive hit and you have to put up with being shite and losing games to bullshit scripting for about half a season, which gets tiring very quickly. There's some realism in a team needing to adapt to a new style of play but it shouldn't punish you to the point of having to write off a whole season and hours of gameplay.

Even with the chemistry issue sorted the AI on this game is a bit of a joke. The scripting I could probably live with it it actually made any sense, but it has no relation to the form of your team or who you're playing against. It doesn't even seem to relate to the ability level of the opposition team. Sometimes it'll just randomly decide that you're going to lose to Aberdeen and have them pass the ball around like 2009 Barcelona. Then next game you're 5-0 up away to Man City who have turned into Aberdeen.

Some players have a weird ability to just boot the ball into your goal from wherever they want, and again this has little relation to who the player is. For example Chris Wood and Origi are basically the two best CPU players on the game, because they just score the exact same goal from 20 yards out every time you play against them and there's literally nothing you can do about it. At the very least have some variation to the scripted goals instead of it just being a 1-2 and then booted in at 500mph every single time, by the same player every time.

Also another factor for master league is you seem to have to buy players that suit the ones you already have and suit how your team plays, but it's tricky to figure out which players come under that category. I bought Sancho for United and he's next to useless. Same with De Jong. Next time round used all my money on Dembele from Barcelona and suddenly all three of him, Martial and Rashford started scoring with ease.