Elliot Anderson | City agree fee up to £130m

The club has more than enough money to spend this summer. We even had about £70m on the side for Baleba last summer, or Semenyo in January. What I proposed should most likely be within reach. We just finished third, have Champions League money coming in, a new sponsor, Casemiro's enormous wage off the books and even some sellable assets. If we don't spend heavily this summer, we never will. Trying to do this on the cheap and without signing some of the very best players around, will make catching up with the two teams ahead of us nearly impossible. We don't have Fergie anymore, who was able to polish a Glazer'fied turd for several years without losing too much ground.

Did we have £70m for Baleba? Where are you getting that info from?

And if we had £70m for Baleba, why did the club put the Sesko purchase on the revolving credit facility?

And i disagree that we have "sellable assets". Which players are liquid? Zirkzee and Ugarte will be tough sales as everyone knows they are unwanted and unfit for Premier League football. They will end up being loan to buy deals from an Italian club.

Last year we had players to sell in Hojlund, Rashford, Garnacho etc.

I mean who knows what will happen in the end. I speculated before, that Anderson might also not move at all. I doubt even City will go near him at Forest's £125m valuation. I also said Anderson's not worth anything too far north of £95-100m and even that is a reach. But in this market, if you want the best players, you have to pay through the nose sometimes. Just look at that Gordon-Barcelona deal. Daylight robbery, in my opinion.

We wont be buying Anderson. What we have to spend, which i bet will not exceed 200m, will be spread across 5 or 6 players.
 
I see Anderson, especially at the 100m+ price, as being the player that comes in to take a club from perenially 2nd to 1st.
In the same way as Arsenal did when they bought Rice. They were already set in the majority of positions and you were in "win now" mode. We are some way off that unfortunately.

If makes more sence for us to do bring in someone like Mateus Fernandes and Ederson and still have some change left to go towards other areas. People are talking about needing three CMs and there is a question mark next to the name of every defender at the club, I would say.

Lets say we throw 120m at Anderson and he gets injured for a couple of months. We would be royally fecked because we put all of our eggs into one basket.

Sadly, I’m starting to accept that this one isn’t going to happen with the briefings and other targets we seem to be focusing on. However, I wanted and believe, it shouldn’t be Anderson or another two. It’s should be Anderson, plus a couple of midfielders. Central midfield should be our primary concern this summer, and we should only be looking at other areas if we fill the positions with money to spare.

My concern is you buy cheap, you buy twice. Or more than twice as we have done with repeated “good enough” options in the middle. See Fred/Herrerra/Ugarte… the list is endless.

I have issues with pretty much all of the other midfielders we seem to be working on. I think I’m going to have to shut the feck up, see who we end up signing, and hope for the best.
 
Adjacent - how are them broke Barca boys dropping £70M on Gordon and +£100M on Alvarez? Surely we can go £100M for Anderson, no?
 
Adjacent - how are them broke Barca boys dropping £70M on Gordon and +£100M on Alvarez? Surely we can go £100M for Anderson, no?
What levers do we have though? I think we could go to £100m for him, but we won’t, as if we did we’d not be able to afford all the other players we need.
 
Adjacent - how are them broke Barca boys dropping £70M on Gordon and +£100M on Alvarez? Surely we can go £100M for Anderson, no?

Maybe they're not as broke as they make out anymore. Probably be smart to let everyone know you're broke
 
Sadly, I’m starting to accept that this one isn’t going to happen with the briefings and other targets we seem to be focusing on. However, I wanted and believe, it shouldn’t be Anderson or another two. It’s should be Anderson, plus a couple of midfielders. Central midfield should be our primary concern this summer, and we should only be looking at other areas if we fill the positions with money to spare.

If it was to happen, i would be all for it, even though i think the money involved would leave us light numbers wise with hopefully an extra 14+ games next season.

My concern is you buy cheap, you buy twice. Or more than twice as we have done with repeated “good enough” options in the middle. See Fred/Herrerra/Ugarte… the list is endless.

I have issues with pretty much all of the other midfielders we seem to be working on. I think I’m going to have to shut the feck up, see who we end up signing, and hope for the best.

I think the key here is to not make the primary midfield target one from a foreign league.

That vast majority of our signings in midfield have been from abroad and just haven't adapted. And the ones we did sign from the PL were of the wrong age profile or were crocks.

I think Mateus Fernandes would be a great buy and half the price of Anderson. Proven in the PL, all be it for lesser clubs, super athletic, always available for past two years and only 21.
 
Sadly, I’m starting to accept that this one isn’t going to happen with the briefings and other targets we seem to be focusing on. However, I wanted and believe, it shouldn’t be Anderson or another two. It’s should be Anderson, plus a couple of midfielders. Central midfield should be our primary concern this summer, and we should only be looking at other areas if we fill the positions with money to spare.

My concern is you buy cheap, you buy twice. Or more than twice as we have done with repeated “good enough” options in the middle. See Fred/Herrerra/Ugarte… the list is endless.

I have issues with pretty much all of the other midfielders we seem to be working on. I think I’m going to have to shut the feck up, see who we end up signing, and hope for the best.
Your can only sign player's that actually want to join...

We also do need to buy twice here. If we were in a position where we just needed one signing to complete the team/squad then waiting to see how this one plays out would be fine.

We don't have that luxury though. Forest want a record transfer fee. Anderson will want wages that would probably make him our top earner. I very much doubt he'll officially sign for anyone until after England are finished at the WC.

This is one of those situations where we need to sign this guy before he went to Forest, but at that point he would have been on your 'good enough' list.
 
Maybe they're not as broke as they make out anymore. Probably be smart to let everyone know you're broke

I mean, their bids aren't exactly national secret and are reported by everyone.

Telling the world you're broke at 11:57am only for Fabrizio Romano and TheAthletic posse to have had already reported at 11:52am that you're buying Anthony Gordon for £70Ms can be only so effective, right?!
 
Your can only sign player's that actually want to join...

We also do need to buy twice here. If we were in a position where we just needed one signing to complete the team/squad then waiting to see how this one plays out would be fine.

We don't have that luxury though. Forest want a record transfer fee. Anderson will want wages that would probably make him our top earner. I very much doubt he'll officially sign for anyone until after England are finished at the WC.

This is one of those situations where we need to sign this guy before he went to Forest, but at that point he would have been on your 'good enough' list.
Yeah needed to get him from geordies, however we know there is very little love lost there since 1996
 
Did we have £70m for Baleba? Where are you getting that info from?

And if we had £70m for Baleba, why did the club put the Sesko purchase on the revolving credit facility?

And i disagree that we have "sellable assets". Which players are liquid? Zirkzee and Ugarte will be tough sales as everyone knows they are unwanted and unfit for Premier League football. They will end up being loan to buy deals from an Italian club.

Last year we had players to sell in Hojlund, Rashford, Garnacho etc.



We wont be buying Anderson. What we have to spend, which i bet will not exceed 200m, will be spread across 5 or 6 players.
Need more than 200m for 5 players like
That gets you 3 worth having
 
He prefers City and that should be the end of our pursuit, no? I thought Ineos made it clear that we only want to sign players that want to play to us?

Move on to the next target. Nothing to see here. Next!
 
He prefers City and that should be the end of our pursuit, no? I thought Ineos made it clear that we only want to sign players that want to play to us?

Move on to the next target. Nothing to see here. Next!
Think we already have moved on
 
He prefers City and that should be the end of our pursuit, no? I thought Ineos made it clear that we only want to sign players that want to play to us?

Move on to the next target. Nothing to see here. Next!
Preferring City isn't the same as not wanting to play for us for what it's worth
 
Preferring City isn't the same as not wanting to play for us for what it's worth
That's very true, however we can offer him CL football and chance to work with fellow Wallsend boys graduate. Trouble is we can't currently offer winning two big trophies and INEOS understandably don't want to break wage structure again either
 
We’ve beaten city to plenty of signings even with Pep there and I have no doubt we can afford him if it came to that but this does very much feel like a case of the player having already decided he’s going to city.

For what its worth I don’t think he’s as good as people think so I’m not too bothered by it anyway. Give me Ederson/Fernandes/Baleba(Bruno G/Tchou) and I think we’re going to be in great shape.
 
We’ve beaten city to plenty of signings even with Pep there and I have no doubt we can afford him if it came to that but this does very much feel like a case of the player having already decided he’s going to city.

For what its worth I don’t think he’s as good as people think so I’m not too bothered by it anyway. Give me Ederson/Fernandes/Baleba(Bruno G/Tchou) and I think we’re going to be in great shape.
I agree in regards to the last two over not getting him, however just can't warm to Baleba after this season
 
I agree in regards to the last two over not getting him, however just can't warm to Baleba after this season
I feel it, he hasn’t had a great season but he has had some good games too. I would still take him based on the previous season in which he looked incredible but totally understand why some would have reservations after this one.
 
Really not a good idea blowing up over 100 million on one player and it's just not a possibility for us right now. So many of them witness a drastic fall in form or for whatever reason and don't live up to expectations. It's good that we did not budge on Baleba last season and would be a bad idea to spend similar amount on tonali either
 
Imagine being a footballer wanting to play in that soulless place every other week with fans that cba to fill out Wembley etc.

It's all hollow. But hey, guarantee you'll have loads of silverware thanks to systemic cheating. Just need to hope history remembers you well.

I rarely hear Aguero being mentioned anymore and he was part of one if the most historic end to a PL season ever as well as being a great player in his own right. David Silva too.

No one gives a feck about City.
 
Imagine being a footballer wanting to play in that soulless place every other week with fans that cba to fill out Wembley etc.

It's all hollow. But hey, guarantee you'll have loads of silverware thanks to systemic cheating. Just need to hope history remembers you well.

I rarely hear Aguero being mentioned anymore and he was part of one if the most historic end to a PL season ever as well as being a great player in his own right. David Silva too.

No one gives a feck about City.
Players have no problem joining either City or PSG.
 
Players have no problem joining either City or PSG.

At least PSG can fill their stadium all the time and have an atmosphere. I hate the cheating aspect don't get me wrong, but being a player with 20 year maximum in your career and choosing to play in a soulless stadium. Damn
 
He prefers City and that should be the end of our pursuit, no? I thought Ineos made it clear that we only want to sign players that want to play to us?

Move on to the next target. Nothing to see here. Next!

If Anderson had indicated it was only City he was willing to join, then this would have been wrapped up already.

Don't believe everything you read in the media. There has been literally nothing to update on for months, so the transfer gurus simply repeat the same 'City winning the race' narrative over and over.

Pep has left sinced the Anderson to City links first emerged. A lot could change yet and I'm willing to go the distance for a player like Anderson.
 
Imagine being a footballer wanting to play in that soulless place every other week with fans that cba to fill out Wembley etc.

It's all hollow. But hey, guarantee you'll have loads of silverware thanks to systemic cheating. Just need to hope history remembers you well.

I rarely hear Aguero being mentioned anymore and he was part of one if the most historic end to a PL season ever as well as being a great player in his own right. David Silva too.

No one gives a feck about City.
Unfortunately that's just not how the younger players see it anymore. City have been a PL winning stalwart for over a decade now with plenty of iconic players. Call it sportswashing or whatever but it worked - they are a big destination for players now whether you like it or not.
Also I hate to break it to you but that Aguero goal is probably the most iconic PL moment of all time. Imagine witnessing that moment at age 11...
 
Unfortunately that's just not how the younger players see it anymore. City have been a PL winning stalwart for over a decade now with plenty of iconic players. Call it sportswashing or whatever but it worked - they are a big destination for players now whether you like it or not.
Also I hate to break it to you but that Aguero goal is probably the most iconic PL moment of all time. Imagine witnessing that moment at age 11...

100% agree. But I just couldn't imagine playing my football there, I'd much rather go somewhere with passion (who knows if this would still be the case if I were a footballer).

Exactly, I said it was the biggest moment, but it still feels sterile, just like their treble.
 
Imagine being a footballer wanting to play in that soulless place every other week with fans that cba to fill out Wembley etc.

It's all hollow. But hey, guarantee you'll have loads of silverware thanks to systemic cheating. Just need to hope history remembers you well.

I rarely hear Aguero being mentioned anymore and he was part of one if the most historic end to a PL season ever as well as being a great player in his own right. David Silva too.

No one gives a feck about City.
There’s too many of these posts to count. I’ll ask you this: how many 10 - 25 year olds (big range) have you spoken to about City and what they think about them and what they stand for? Too many here are nowhere near the demographic and are unwilling to take on the perception that they might have.

City are many things to many people. Most of us outside that demographic are disgusted by them and what they’re allowed to get away with, but for those who grew up or are growing up watching Pep and City, they are starstruck and idealise the whole City story in the way they have been brainwashed to do - you know, that bit where City’s crimes and allegations are swept under the rug by a fearful and/or in cahoots media pack who push every positive narrative about City and their rise to the top. Propaganda is real and it’s there to do exactly the job it’s done on that demographic, a demographic we’re trying to buy players from, who don’t see either City or United as older folk do and have faded or no memories of us being the dominant force we were. Success is the only way to truly capture young hearts and minds again - them getting their Fergie, their Ronaldo, Rooney, Keane etc. in the interim, we’ve got a job on to convince hot talent to come here over their concept of a dominant force. So when older fans call them all the names under the sun, justifiably, know it has little to no value to those who have grown up in the bubble of City’s era, how can it?

All we get in tweets is nonsense that incites fans and has them take things as gospel - there’s been no official word from the player or his camp, yet people are dead certain they know his preference, and it seems to belie logic thst things may still be up in the air, especially so with him almost certainly not entertaining the distraction until after the World Cup where all his options will be on the table and clubs that currently have no interest in him might throw their hat into the ring.

Posters don’t seem to ask why a player would work against his own interests and potentially miss out on an astronomical windfall by committing to anyone early when the biggest showcase in the sport is on his doorstep; if he’s the talent everyone thinks he is, his people will want to strike at the apex of his earning potential, which is not a few weeks before the World Cup even starts. The only logistical way that is not the case is if a club is utterly desperate to get him in and secure his services and are willing to pay a premium to do so, which could well happen, but again, a good team around him will have the scope to think things could improve further still for their client and not entertain that. I don’t think Eliot Anderson is marquee enough for even City to do that with; that kind of treatment is reserved for bona fide, proven stars, not players who can’t be called the best in the league/Europe yet, unless they are sure things. I am not sure anyone thinks Anderson belongs to that category/calibre, yet.
 
If Anderson had indicated it was only City he was willing to join, then this would have been wrapped up already.

Don't believe everything you read in the media. There has been literally nothing to update on for months, so the transfer gurus simply repeat the same 'City winning the race' narrative over and over.

Pep has left sinced the Anderson to City links first emerged. A lot could change yet and I'm willing to go the distance for a player like Anderson.
I’ve mentioned Pep leaving as something which gives us a decent chance before.

Now i thought, the last time i had so much noise about a United target being almost ready to sign for City was with Ronaldo. My bet is on Marinakis trying to play us, and i don’t think we’ll fall for it this time.
IF we sign him, i don’t think it will be for 120m, but significantly lower(anything 100 or less)
 
100% agree. But I just couldn't imagine playing my football there, I'd much rather go somewhere with passion (who knows if this would still be the case if I were a footballer).

Exactly, I said it was the biggest moment, but it still feels sterile, just like their treble.
football lost its' soul long ago for me to be honest. Lack of sportsmanship, VAR, oil clubs/american owners, betting/crytpo sponsors, cringey social media stuff from clubs and players. It's an uncanny version of the sport i grew up loving. I go to see my local team when I can be arsed on saturdays now and vaguely keep up with United by coming on here or watching the odd big game if we're doing well.
 
Verdict surely coming this summer? How long have we heard that for. Its also likely to be some watered down nonsense
Wrong thread for this discussion but just because it has taken a long time doesn’t mean the outcome has to be watered down. The evidence against them is really strong.
 
I think City will do some sort of deal that involves somebody like Trafford or Lewis going the other way.
 
Ederson at 40mil. Fernandes at 60. 60 on a left back like Lewis Hall or Nathaniel Brown.
Maybe then someone like Javi Guerra at 40 and add a free backup striker like Lewandowski.

That would be a good window
rather take 120 and go get Anderson
Newcastle aren’t selling hall
Lewa isn’t coming