I think you are massively underestimating the importance of depth. We are in desperate need for players coming into a season with significantly more matches.
Elliot Anderson | City agree fee up to £130m
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Not really. They went through a period of spending little while their squad got weaker, they are possibly losing rodri and Bernardo, they are in need to improve their squad to compete for the pl.
Agreed. The CL spots next season could be decided by who has the least injuries and the squad depth to manage the fixture list and get results. Especially coming off the back of a WC summer.
Just look at how many injuries and how badly the CWC last summer affected clubs such as Madrid et al.
Yes, absolutely it does. A midfield of player A + player B with no depth is in a far worse position than a midfield of player A + player B with better depth. Especially in a longer season (addition of champions league games and we played the absolute minimum in the 2 domestic cups last season)
He can't be the guy Perez alluded to right? 22-23 years old, midfielder, already one of the best in the world in his position. Still at a selling club unlike PSG, Bayern or City. Real is really hurting for a good CM.
With Mourinho coming in all the talk has been about players aged 22-24, no ego, still very much on their way up/yet to peak (like Cristiano Ronaldo, di Maria, Özil and Khedira). And before any says anything about ego, i was comparing ages when they signed for Madrid.
--------Mbappé-------------
Vini - Bellingham - X
Anderson - Tchouameni
That is a lot of steel in the center but still good passing ability, not unlike Khedira and Xabi Alonso back then.
With Mourinho coming in all the talk has been about players aged 22-24, no ego, still very much on their way up/yet to peak (like Cristiano Ronaldo, di Maria, Özil and Khedira). And before any says anything about ego, i was comparing ages when they signed for Madrid.
--------Mbappé-------------
Vini - Bellingham - X
Anderson - Tchouameni
That is a lot of steel in the center but still good passing ability, not unlike Khedira and Xabi Alonso back then.
I kind of doubt that Florentino Perez was using the spector of signing Elliot Anderson to win his election...
All the names floated are all very well established and CL winning caliber players rather than newcomers playing for a bottom table side.
As long as it’s not Bruno
It wouldn’t be 150m then. They could just pay the 57m release clause
Perez said he didnt play in the Premier League so its neither.
He is serving a "desire" that football fans have, sadly. You just have to look on here to see how many people crave these daily "updates" or speak as though these "updates" are really "updates" and express impatience and frustration about things as if the deal was really working the way the regular updates portray.
Pretty sure it's Julian Alvarez, it would get one over Barca for their main summer target in the process
Im not. Im saying when there is a very special player available, i would rather go with him than two just good ones.
The core of the starting XI will make the most impact to the success of our season, in my opinion.
Whoever it is is not going to live up to the hype because the description does not meet a player capable of it
He said CL club and not PL. Reports seems to suggest it's Kvaratskhelia.
No one is advocating for "no depth".
Are you taking into account the quality of "player A and player B".
To me, the increase in quality you get from Anderson over Fernandes, justified sacrificing some midfield depth.
If Anderson comes to United, it would be him, Ederson, Mainoo and Ugarte. That is already one more dedicated midfielder than we had last season under Carrick. And should we also have Bruno who could drop deeper, if needed.
And if Ugarte is sold, bring in one to replace him.
Is he really 40-50m better than MF? I don’t think so
Interesting, seems we're still in the picture for just about all of the rumored targets this summer.
Good to keep all your options open during negotiations I suppose
Which player would you have more confidence in being a mainstay in our team for the next 6 years?
I say 6 years because that is how long Bruno has been an automatic pick in our starting XI.
If Jamie Jackson said the sky was blue, I'd check thrice
That’s a different tone from the preceding weeks. I wonder have the club had some encouragement from Anderson’s agent, or is Jackson taking a stab in the dark?
Both since you asked me. They are both capable of it and both young enough
He's saying club executives still feel good about a deal being possible so maybe they've received positive signals.
Either way it is shaping up to be a straight derby race for him
Both are capable, of course.
But the question was, which player do you have "more confidence in being a mainstay in our team for the next 6 years" ?
And I’ve answered you, both. I don’t see much between them at this point in time. I’d love them both. If I had to choose I’d go with MF because he’s Portuguese. I tend to think English players are financially overrated
Would take back stuff I had said about Jackson, however his reliability is dreadful so nothing to see here
I'd take him for 100m i just dont feel he will come here given the last 6 months City rumours
Don’t want us paying £100m for him.
I think he's absolutely worth that price
Fair, if you have equal confidence in both.
But I think you would be hard pressed to find one metric that shows that Fernandes is a better player than Anderson. The eye test alone shows it.
We are going to be paying an overinflated sum on a midfielder regardless.
I would argue that at 80, Fernandes is more overinflated than Anderson at 120.
Oh yeah would pass on that LB to sign him and Fernandes but this will just lead to City second bid accepted
Considering what valuation appears to be like these days (i.e., £60 for Hall, £80 for Tonali), £100m for Anderson would be a slam dunk.
The only downside would be to lose out on Mateus Fernandes, but Anderson fits the United puzzle perfectly.
Yeah the next update will be fee agreed unfortunately
Still think he’s more likely to end up at City but I just wondered whether we’re adopting a similar approach with this as we have the last two summers under Ineos where we let another suitor set a valuation first and then swoop in to match it rather than being the front runners and likely paying more.
Yeah maybe that's the plan, will reiterate that I would delay that LB signing if it meant getting this guy and Fernandes this summer. However certainly won't allow myself to believe he isn't joining City because noise is just too loud.
Yes really. They will replace Bernardo with Anderson. Rodri probably still has 2 years left in the tank, and if sold will also surely be replaced.
Aside from that, their squad is strong enough and of a good enough age profile to survive a 2 year transfer ban. The signings of Guehi and Semenyo in January clearly improved them, and they should still finish there or thereabouts.
GK - Donarumma 27, Trafford 23
LB - O'Reilly 21, Ait Nouri 25
CB - Guehi 25, Gvardiol 24, Khusanov 22, Dias 29
RB - Nunes 27, Lewis 21
CM - Rodri 29, Nico Gonzalez 24, Reijnders 27
AM - Cherki 22, Foden 26, Nypan 19
LW - Doku 24, Marmoush 27
RW - Semenyo 26, Savinho 22
CF - Haaland 25
The age profile of their squad is very impressive, it's almost as if they've been building it in anticipation of such a scenario.
They could probably do with an additional player this summer at RB, CM and CF or RW (to back-up either Doku or Haaland); maybe CB depending on Dias' fitness. But assuming they get those signings done, which isn't that many, then it should be pretty future-proof for 2 years. The vast majority of their squad will be in their very peak years.
Again, they may still not win the league with it, and the manager will be a question mark, but it will be enough to keep them very competitive at the top end of the table.
Convince him that City is washed without Pep and that he's better off under Carrick
Jackson is a well respected United journo.
He wouldn't come out with "the club’s executives are optimistic they can beat Manchester City in the race to acquire the 23-year-old midfielder"
Unless he is hearing, or has been briefed, that there is some real movement or optimism.
He wouldn't come out with "the club’s executives are optimistic they can beat Manchester City in the race to acquire the 23-year-old midfielder"
Unless he is hearing, or has been briefed, that there is some real movement or optimism.
Holding onto the Wallsend boys club connection between Carrick and Anderson.
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