Elliot Anderson | City agree fee up to £130m

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You're getting one of the pl best for the next decade. He's had 2 excellent years in the pl, is England's starting world cup mf and is 23, you don't get much more ready made than that
Has this line of thinking ever worked? Sancho was supposed to lock up the RW for a decade, Luke Shaw the same (inconsistent at best, had 2-3 good seasons out of his 10-12 years here).

Nothing is guaranteed. Even Mainoo was benched under Amorim. Who knows if a new manager doesn’t like him.
 
Has this line of thinking ever worked? Sancho was supposed to lock up the RW for a decade, Luke Shaw the same (inconsistent at best, had 2-3 good seasons out of his 10-12 years here).

Nothing is guaranteed. Even Mainoo was benched under Amorim. Who knows if a new manager doesn’t like him.
Even Pogba who was much more talented than Anderson
 
Madness they've been allowed to continue spending and spending with the charges hanging over them.

Something tells me it would’ve been resolved a lot quicker if they’d been suspended from transfers in the meantime.
 
It’s worth pointing out that despite the announcement of the outcome of the 115 charges, a few posters have comment3d that the punishment from it is still years away thereafter. Not sure if that is true but if it is, it may factor in decisions the players are making.
 
Is he going to stay PL's best for the next decade, though? In a season or two there could be 5-6 new midfielders that are better than him that came from Ligue 1 or La Liga for 30-40m. You need to be very, very sure about what you're getting if you're splashing 120m on a player.
How sure can you be though? What more could you realistically expect for a 23 Yr old nkaimg the step up? 100m is now the going rate for a top class pl mf, I feel we would pay it if he didn't fancy city
 
Even Pogba who was much more talented than Anderson
Yes! He was supposed to be our Yaya Toure and the midfield general. Left after his contract ended. This guy has had like 1 good season in the PL and is supposed to be a PL great for a decade? Laughable suggestion.
 
I think Marinakis is bonkers enough to reject that. This is all peacocking and ego, I believe. He wants the showstopper statement.
Maybe, I also wouldn't be totally shocked if we were mental enough to going above it tbh

I just have a weird feeling that Ratcliffe has a bee in his bonnet about Anderson specifically.

I think it's crazy money so I'm not advocating for it. I just think we will get involved
 
Has this line of thinking ever worked? Sancho was supposed to lock up the RW for a decade, Luke Shaw the same (inconsistent at best, had 2-3 good seasons out of his 10-12 years here).

Nothing is guaranteed. Even Mainoo was benched under Amorim. Who knows if a new manager doesn’t like him.
Nothing Is guaranteed but if you think like that we wouldn't of broke transfer records for rio, Rooney, Keane. Plenty of people including big parts of our fanbase thought the rio fee was insane, looking back it was incredible value. You try and sign the best possible players for your team, Anderson is currently one of the pl best mf.
 
Nothing Is guaranteed but if you think like that we wouldn't of broke transfer records for rio, Rooney, Keane. You try and sign the best possible players for your team, Anderson is currently one of the pl best mf.
This is not early 2000s where there were only 5-6 good PL teams. In this era a lot of clubs have money scouting and develop players better.

120m is for players that are proven entity, not with 1 good season under his belt.
 
Maybe, I also wouldn't be totally shocked if we were mental enough to going above it tbh

I just have a weird feeling that Ratcliffe has a bee in his bonnet about Anderson specifically.

I think it's crazy money so I'm not advocating for it. I just think we will get involved
If the club's transfer nerds are absolutely convinced he's the player that he's made out to be then I wouldn't be worried about paying £120m. It's a reasonable outlay for someone you think is pretty much a sure thing.

Really think he's going to City though.
 
Why do I have a feeling that we’re gonna be chasing him for weeks only for him to choose City while our other targets such as Fernandes and Scott go elsewhere and then we’re left overpaying for Baleba?

Why is that? No other team even seems to be actively pursuing either of them so doubtful a team just wraps up a transfer in a matter of days. Just typical doom mongering.

The club will be working simultaneously on all deals and understanding the figures involved in each, I don't see how we end up with no one based on waiting for Anderson.

Fabrizio ROMANO just said city bid 121M. Wow really know they won't be sanctioned

How does this mean they know they won't be sanctioned? They have always believed they are right and didn't believe this would get this far. They know nothing yet, no one does.

What behaviour do you expect from them? To freeze up and not do anything until a verdict? I don't really get this constant "they know they're in the clear" talk. What is it they are supposed to he doing?

Man City are incredibly rich and arrogant and if they had won the case there is no chance they wouldn't announce it ASAP.
 
How sure can you be though? What more could you realistically expect for a 23 Yr old nkaimg the step up? 100m is now the going rate for a top class pl mf, I feel we would pay it if he didn't fancy city
If this is what a top class midfielder is, I'd love to see what Vitinha, Neves and Pedri would be valued at in this market.
 
So Anderson is confident of joining City but United are still interested in him.
Something doesn't quite make sense there.
Well-placed sources say ongoing discussions between City and Forest have still been productive and Anderson could leave for a fee in excess of £100million.

Multiple sources believe that Anderson would prefer to join City, who are due to install Enzo Maresca as Pep Guardiola’s replacement.

City have been considered the frontrunners to sign Anderson for several months and had an offer rejected for the Nottingham Forest midfielder last week.

Manchester United consider Anderson, 23, to be their ideal marquee midfield target but have not submitted a counter bid, at the time of writing.

United are unlikely to formally withdraw their interest in Anderson as Forest could ultimately obtain a higher fee from City if they drag out negotiations with United still waiting in the wings.
 
This is not early 2000s where there were only 5-6 good PL teams. In this era a lot of clubs have money scouting and develop players better.

120m is for players that are proven entity, not with 1 good season under his belt.
Lots of clubs have money so you have to spend even more these days.
 
So Anderson is confident of joining City but United are still interested in him.
Something doesn't quite make sense there.

Yeah seems a bit odd. Or else we are being a bit stupid.

Could be we are happy to still be interested if only to drive the price up further for City which still doesnt make sense.
 
I’m going to try and look at it from a different angle as all the credible journo’s keep saying we’re interested and Anderson is our top target so COULD we be waiting for a bid to be accepted then match it and attempt to offer more in wages then City do ?

Why would all the credible journo’s keep saying we’re interested and Anderson is our number one target if we know he’s going to cost well north of £100 million and we’re not going anywhere near that price ? Surely we would brief the press that we won’t pay the asking price and dropped interest because of it ?
 
Strange we haven’t officially pulled out. What are we waiting for? We clearly aren’t going to sign him.
 
Lots of clubs have money so you have to spend even more these days.
Yes and we can find good players at different clubs. You dont have to go all in on a player who hasn’t proved much.
 
What does formally withdraw interest mean?

Feels like me going into Tesco just to let the staff know that I don't want a KitKat
 
Why are people calling for us to declare we're not signing him? Surely there is only one thing achieved by that, which is slightly strengthening City's bargaining position.
 
How sure can you be though? What more could you realistically expect for a 23 Yr old nkaimg the step up? 100m is now the going rate for a top class pl mf, I feel we would pay it if he didn't fancy city
Also how sure are you Anderson will be what you think or say?
Football is not black and white.
Isak, Pogba, Grealish all have not ruled the EPL for a decade because of what was paid of them and 'the talent' they had.

125M is bonkers. We should run away and run very fast.
 
If this is what a top class midfielder is, I'd love to see what Vitinha, Neves and Pedri would be valued at in this market.
Caicido, rice and Enzo all gone for that. Psg/barca wouldn't except any offers for them and that's the point. City want a top pl mf, and don't care about cost. Anderson ranks number 1 is most mf metrics this season so why would they buy an inferior player just because they're cheaper. I'm sure if city could sign vitinha, neves or Pedro they would
 
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Maybe, I also wouldn't be totally shocked if we were mental enough to going above it tbh

I just have a weird feeling that Ratcliffe has a bee in his bonnet about Anderson specifically.

I think it's crazy money so I'm not advocating for it. I just think we will get involved
Actually, Radcliffe doing something for the club, even for his own agenda, would be quite a statement in itself. Beyond a certain point, you think just sit back and watch the show.
 
Why is that? No other team even seems to be actively pursuing either of them so doubtful a team just wraps up a transfer in a matter of days. Just typical doom mongering.

The club will be working simultaneously on all deals and understanding the figures involved in each, I don't see how we end up with no one based on waiting for Anderson.



How does this mean they know they won't be sanctioned? They have always believed they are right and didn't believe this would get this far. They know nothing yet, no one does.

What behaviour do you expect from them? To freeze up and not do anything until a verdict? I don't really get this constant "they know they're in the clear" talk. What is it they are supposed to he doing?

Man City are incredibly rich and arrogant and if they had won the case there is no chance they wouldn't announce it ASAP.
I mean they are getting investigated for financial fairplay and they still coming in with so much spending after a zero trophy season. Who else beside them and Chelsea is doing so? Even psg are rich and arrogant yet their spending look abit more realistic. Even if they got investigated what is going to happen? They will tell them no more transfer starting next year for a year? So they can buy whoever they want ?
 
It’s worth pointing out that despite the announcement of the outcome of the 115 charges, a few posters have comment3d that the punishment from it is still years away thereafter. Not sure if that is true but if it is, it may factor in decisions the players are making.

It still makes no sense to me, punishment announced or not, they would have been found guilty.

Most rival fans have zero respect for them now, it'll be pure digust if they are just allowed to continue as if nothing has happened if they've been found guiltly of most of the charges.

Couple this with Pep gone, more competition for his place, and the very real chance he could win very little there now they have to compete with a nomral manager, it's a very odd one to me, and a player I'd be happy to walk away from if he truly does prefer them over us.
 
If this is what a top class midfielder is, I'd love to see what Vitinha, Neves and Pedri would be valued at in this market.
You’re simply not going to get a price at that level. Not for sale class. Pedri’s release clause is €1,000,000,000 which even City and PSG won’t go near.
 
Ornstein: United’s position


Smart. Great options for us too.
 
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