ChrisNelson
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What a sad twist on an already sad story may he R.I.P. and the family find a way to cope.
The agents usually, and I'd probably guess in some instances the players as well.On the payment of the transfer fee issue .
Doesn't the player get a cut of the fee which I would assume in this case would go to his family ?
So by not paying up Cardiff are doing the family out of money due to them as well
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I thought sign on fees had become standard practice?The agents usually, and I'd probably guess in some instances the players as well.
But it'd probably veer from sale to sale and the conditions stipulated in the sale agreement/contract.
I certainly don't think it is standard that players get a part of the fee, unless something is agreed with either you existing club or the buying club.
Wtf ?Very very murky. Haven't found the body of the "pilot". And now the father is found dead with a "heart problem". A Premier League player doesn't just get on a dodgy plane with a dodgy pilot and fly across the channel during bad weather on a Monday evening. All very very strange.
You might be right on both counts bud. I wasn’t aware that signing on fees were standard practice. I always thought signing on fees was primarily for players out of contract.I thought sign on fees had become standard practice?
Aren't Cardiff disputing the transfer because of a too high sign on fee?
RIP to his father. The poor family, his sister looked around my age, really don't know how I would cope if my brother and dad passed away like that. Terrible
I'm not sure, it was a genuine question. I keep hearing about them, but maybe it's selective memory because I'll only hear about them when they are paid... and just wouldn't notice if they're not paid in loads of other transfers. The second one was from what I remembered last time I read about it, but that was a couple of months ago and I wasn't sure. After a quick search on google I found this:You might be right on both counts bud. I wasn’t aware that signing on fees were standard practice. I always thought signing on fees was primarily for players out of contract.
But I mean at the end of the day, there’s some regulation but football would be like any other business. It depends on negotiating power and the actual contract I guess. Unless as you stated, it has become the “norm”.
4. Personal terms
For a transfer to become valid, player personal terms have to be concluded, and they weren't.
Sala, we understand, asked for his signing-on fee to be paid 100 per cent up front and had signed a contract, but the Premier League said it was invalid.
They wrote to Cardiff to say they didn't do business that way, pointing out it was custom and practice to pay in installments over the three-year duration of the contract.
Cardiff were told to renegotiate with Sala on those terms. Until that happened, he couldn't be registered to play in the Premier League.
As such, Sala was NOT eligible to play for the Bluebirds in their next game — away to Arsenal on Tuesday, January 29 — until that criteria was satisfied.
Seems like there definitely was a signing on fee negotiated then. It would actually be good to know if this is a common practice.I'm not sure, it was a genuine question. I keep hearing about them, but maybe it's selective memory because I'll only hear about them when they are paid... and just wouldn't notice if they're not paid in loads of other transfers. The second one was from what I remembered last time I read about it, but that was a couple of months ago and I wasn't sure. After a quick search on google I found this:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport.../cardiff-city-emiliano-sala-contract-15941596
Yes Penna, that is probably the case. Very sad all round.@PeteManic, there's nothing suspicious at all. Dad was 58 and obviously under massive stress because of what happened, plus he had a history of heart problems.
As for the plane crash, it was a miracle that either of the bodies was found. The pilot hadn't been flying much and evidently shouldn't have been flying at all in the dark. Nothing strange, just all very sad. I hope the pilot's remains are found eventually, so that his family can also have some closure.
Has to be his agent?64 year old man from North Yorkshire has been arrested...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-engla...sala-death&link_location=live-reporting-story
he's the wrong ageHas to be his agent?
David Henderson - also the wrong age - he was reported as being aged 60 at the time of the crash. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/83236...flight-after-asking-want-a-weekend-in-nantes/The original pilot perhaps? Wasn't he around that age? The one who hired that Ibbotso to take his place.
Times says it's him.David Henderson - also the wrong age - he was reported as being aged 60 at the time of the crash. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/83236...flight-after-asking-want-a-weekend-in-nantes/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49345186Footballer Emiliano Sala, who died in a plane crash over the English Channel, had been exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide, a report has revealed.
Sala and pilot David Ibbotson, crashed on 21 January when travelling to Cardiff from the French city of Nantes.
The Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said in a report that toxicology tests found a high saturation level of carbon monoxide in Sala's blood.
Mr Ibbotson, from Crowle, North Lincolnshire, has still not been found.
But it is likely he would also have been exposed to carbon monoxide, the report added.
The Argentine had signed for Cardiff City as its £15m record signing, but the plane lost radar contact near Guernsey.
The Guernsey authorities called off a search after three days saying there was little chance of finding either man alive.
Sala's body, which was recovered from the wreckage of the Piper Malibu N264DB following a privately-funded search, was repatriated to Argentina.
Sounds like it. So the finger of blame goes back to whoever serviced the plane/did the pre checks.Some engine fault and the pilot lost consciousness?
Yes it does, they probably didnt have the faintest idea. That is probably a better scenario.does this mean they fainted before impact? that is actually more peaceful scenario in this tragic episode