Endrick - Lyon Loan Lighting up Ligue 1

You guys are so confusing. One second LIgue Un is a farmer’s league; where your gran could look like a baller. And now it’s the perfect stage for us to savour a generational talent? Make your minds up!
Football should be about enjoyment. If you’ve watched the clips there is some enjoyable football to be seen.

I don’t endorse the captions on the clips, but he’s a very fun player to watch and you can see him doing a lot of good things at 19 that most players can’t do at their peaks.

I’m hoping to share a few more players like this that are just fun to watch, that we don’t have to be trying to sign and that hopefully can bring a smile to the faces of those who miss a bit of Joga Bonito.
 
He looks fantastic doesn’t he. How good are other Real players for him to be loaned out? I haven’t watched much of Real for a while but you’d have thought they’d love an electric young player like this.
He got injured and missed the Club World Cup and the early part of the season. Alonso played a youth product called Gonzalo García in that tournament and he did quite well, so Endrick fell behind in the pecking order. Neither of them were playing much, though, since Mbappe is the main man. I dunno if maybe Alonso didn't like something about him.
 
He looks fantastic doesn’t he. How good are other Real players for him to be loaned out? I haven’t watched much of Real for a while but you’d have thought they’d love an electric young player like this.
I can’t see how he doesn’t return from this as a proper first team player at Real.

At Lyon:
250 mins
4 goals (1 per 62.5 mins)
1 assist (g/a per 50 mins)

At Real Madrid (24/25)
898 mins
7 goals (1 per 128.3 mins)

He’s just electric.
 
Good to see his doing well, every time the camera showed him at Madrid's bench he looked depressed as feck
 
I can’t see how he doesn’t return from this as a proper first team player at Real.

At Lyon:
250 mins
4 goals (1 per 62.5 mins)
1 assist (g/a per 50 mins)

At Real Madrid (24/25)
898 mins
7 goals (1 per 128.3 mins)

He’s just electric.
The problem is Mbappe, he's never going to be anything but a bitpart player with Mbappe taking all the minutes. If I were him I'll have a move to the EPL as my target.
 
He’s also now amongst the youngest hattrick scorers in recent history. Since 2016:

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The problem is Mbappe, he's never going to be anything but a bitpart player with Mbappe taking all the minutes. If I were him I'll have a move to the EPL as my target.
The numbers suggest thats happening across the team.
False 9 with Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo seemed more team orientated.
 
Bin Zirkzee. Offer Madrid loan to buy.

There’s no way he’s going to be starting ahead of Mbappe and they rate Garcia highly.
 
The numbers suggest thats happening across the team.
False 9 with Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo seemed more team orientated.
Mbappe, Endrick and Vini Jr can co-exist but then you 100% need Arda Güler to be your guy in midfield (which by many reports is now the case)

I see Rodrygo sold next summer and Endrick taking the RW spot.

My personal view is Endrick is better than both Vini Jr and Rodrygo in the long run.
 
The new Mbeumo…

I think he needs to leave Real. He’s very strong physically, but still very raw. Ligue 1 is good test ground for physicality, but tactic wise, outside of few top opponents, players can get away with playing on instincts and physicality. Doing well with Lyon doesn’t mean he’s ready to challenge for the RF position at Real to play support role to Mbappe and Vini. He needs a team where he is the focus of the team in the league that challenge him.

I don’t think we’re a good place for him. We have Sesko to develop and Mbeumo may be playing up top quite a bit too. And we already have Amad and Lacey to compete for the right side attacking position.
 
Imagine a team with Diomande on the left and Endrick on the right. Benito might never watch United again.
 
The new Mbeumo…

I think he needs to leave Real. He’s very strong physically, but still very raw. Ligue 1 is good test ground for physicality, but tactic wise, outside of few top opponents, players can get away with playing on instincts and physicality. Doing well with Lyon doesn’t mean he’s ready to challenge for the RF position at Real to play support role to Mbappe and Vini. He needs a team where he is the focus of the team in the league that challenge him.

I don’t think we’re a good place for him. We have Sesko to develop and Mbeumo may be playing up top quite a bit too. And we already have Amad and Lacey to compete for the right side attacking position.
I’d love to see what he’d be like at Inter Milan etc until he matures.

No disrespect to Mbeumo but he’s light years ahead of him at the same age.

For context the last player to put up numbers he just did in Ligue 1 was peak Neymar:
3 goals
3 successful take ons
6 shots
6 on target
Imagine a team with Diomande on the left and Endrick on the right. Benito might never watch United again.
I play an online football manager game with some on here and unsurprisingly I have both in my team.

Both are potentially world class forwards (with reasonably complimentary skill sets).
 
I’d love to see what he’d be like at Inter Milan etc until he matures.

No disrespect to Mbeumo but he’s light years ahead of him at the same age.

For context the last player to put up numbers he just did in Ligue 1 was peak Neymar:
3 goals
3 successful take ons
6 shots
6 on target

I play an online football manager game with some on here and unsurprisingly I have both in my team.

Both are potentially world class forwards (with reasonably complimentary skill sets).
To be fair, I do love players with flair and skill, and Endrick is right up that street
 
I’d love to see what he’d be like at Inter Milan etc until he matures.

No disrespect to Mbeumo but he’s light years ahead of him at the same age.

For context the last player to put up numbers he just did in Ligue 1 was peak Neymar:
3 goals
3 successful take ons
6 shots
6 on target

I play an online football manager game with some on here and unsurprisingly I have both in my team.

Both are potentially world class forwards (with reasonably complimentary skill sets).
Raw talent wise. No doubt Endrick is seen with higher potential and ahead at the same age. Professional and position maturity, it can’t be underestimated. Same players may need quite a bit time to breakthrough from just relying on raw talent. Development is rarely linear. Quite many top prospects got leapfrogged and never be able to reach their potential when lesser talented players enjoy a better prime. Overtaking someone like Mbeumo in PL is easier said than done.

Unless Inter sells Lautaro, Juventus would be the better option if he chooses to go to Serie A next.
 
To be fair, I do love players with flair and skill, and Endrick is right up that street
100% it’s not even necessarily the flair (which he absolutely can do) it’s the relentless directness of his play. Any space and he drives into it with absolute purpose and his shots have so much venom behind them at only 19. I don’t know of a striker recently who gave me this same inevitable feeling at such a young age other than Mbappe.

I also want to do a Yan Diomande watch thread as I think Endrick and him are probably the two players I go out of my way to watch full matches of too.I became a temporary Côte d’Ivoire supporter during AFCON because of him and Amad.
Raw talent wise. No doubt Endrick is seen with higher potential and ahead at the same age. Professional and position maturity, it can’t be underestimated. Same players may need quite a bit time to breakthrough from just relying on raw talent. Development is rarely linear. Quite many top prospects got leapfrogged and never be able to reach their potential when lesser talented players enjoy a better prime. Overtaking someone like Mbeumo in PL is easier said than done.

Unless Inter sells Lautaro, Juventus would be the better option if he chooses to go to Serie A next.
I think his positional understanding is excellent at 19. He finds space relentlessly and has shown he can play inside and outside in pockets or flanks.

At 19 his career average goals per 90 in Europe is ~100mins per goal. He’s already an elite forward.
 
Surely with Mbappe there hes going to have to leave in the summer?
 
I'd like to kindly remind everyone that he got a yellow for this while at Real Madrid:

 
Paulo Fonseca surely doesn't have what it takes to be a top club manager, but he is very good at nurturing young talent.
 
It's a big shame that the elite clubs buying out these gems and not utilize them since they have already elite players in place.
 
It's a big shame that the elite clubs buying out these gems and not utilize them since they have already elite players in place.
Those players get no sympathy from me, to be honest. They go to these clubs fully aware they're not going to be competing with world class players for their spots anytime soon, but they do it for money, fame or because it's a dream come true. Go to "smaller" clubs like Dortmund, Lyon, mid table PL club, Ajax, Leipzig, et cetera where you actually can play football and develop without the immense pressure.
 
Those players get no sympathy from me, to be honest. They go to these clubs fully aware they're not going to be competing with world class players for their spots anytime soon, but they do it for money, fame or because it's a dream come true. Go to "smaller" clubs like Dortmund, Lyon, mid table PL club, Ajax, Leipzig, et cetera where you actually can play football and develop without the immense pressure.
I think 17/18 year olds can get some leeway with making poor decisions, especially when it involves life-changing amounts of money.
 
Those players get no sympathy from me, to be honest. They go to these clubs fully aware they're not going to be competing with world class players for their spots anytime soon, but they do it for money, fame or because it's a dream come true. Go to "smaller" clubs like Dortmund, Lyon, mid table PL club, Ajax, Leipzig, et cetera where you actually can play football and develop without the immense pressure.

These clubs don't have the money to purchase these players though. What can the player do, force his club to accept a low fee?