I mentioned it earlier. India has played three pink ball tests now.
‘inability to pick the straight ball’ is the worst summary of this match. There is a lot of mental gymnastics in this thread to defend a match that ended in less than two days. That is one of the worst pitches we’ve had in recent memory. It was a complete disgrace and will kill the game if we roll it out every time.
Couldn't agree more.
With the Pink Ball you have to get the pitches close to 100% right.
Dont you think pitches such as the one from the 1st test are unfair? Provides a massive advantage to the winner of the toss. The Oval test from 2018 springs to mind - we batted last on a pitch with an astonishing amount of rough outside leg.
Vaughan gonna Vaughan. Blokes an idiot.
It's just Michael Vaughan. Tabloid nonsense day in day out.
Yeah we all think Vaughan is a twat.
The need to win 2-1 to go to the finals is playing a role here sadly. I don’t think we’d have done this otherwise.
Agree completely Ash.
Yeah, get what you're saying. I think we all want to see a variety of pitches - it would be boring if every pitch was the same. Home advantage is part of the challenge of touring.
Yeah that's my feeling too.
What's wrong with tailoring pitches? It's part of touring. Home advantage is felt in many ways. Green top in England, umpires calling no balls on Indians but not Aussies in the recent series for bouncers (nobody cried there but I've seen complaining about Indian upires here). It's creating news around test cricket, which is a good thing.
Everything is a balance though aint it mate. Two day test matches on pitches where Root/Kohli look clueless on it are a poor advert for the game and I doubt the BCCI will want that repeated.
Yeah read about it. Quite a stupid tweet.https://www.skysports.com/amp/crick...tween-alex-hartley-rory-burns-and-ben-duckett
whilst apparently “just banter” I’d be raging if that was tweeted after I’d just lost a test match like that
Kohli didn't look bad on this. He played a bad shot. It really looks like he has lost a step or 2 in the past year. It's a good thing for India others are stepping up.
No it's not. Touring is about the unfamiliar weather conditions, the lack of match practice, the passion of the home crowd and the natural variations in the soil.
Is this going to be the marquee stadium? I'd have thought that would be Mumbai/Delhi?
yeah really stupid, the ECB have really made an effort to present the men’s and women’s team as a united front so doesn’t look great for a colleague to stick the boot in
Tailoring = making pitches to suit your team. Every team in the world does this, including England. Natural variations of the soil, what a joke.
I can understand Rory Burns being a bit touchy about it, but what the feck has it got to to with Duckett? I'm about as close to the England team as he is these days and unless you're actually out there playing surely you can see the tweet is light hearted?https://www.skysports.com/amp/crick...tween-alex-hartley-rory-burns-and-ben-duckett
whilst apparently “just banter” I’d be raging if that was tweeted after I’d just lost a test match like that
to be honest I’m not convinced at just how light hearted it was but I don’t disagree about Duckett, it’s one for the players to sort themselves
I’m probably wrong, but I thought both sides needed to with by 2 tests or it would be Australia in the final
But that's the thing, root was hardly unplayable. Yes some of his deliveries did turn but look back at all the wickets and all were result of poor shots or bad technique. Also, bar Pant all his wickets were of lower order batsmen. Ashwin got out playing a big shot, Axar same, Pant's delivery although turned but was a careless shot, Sundar was rooted to the crease and bumrah's batting is non existent. It's not the first time part timers have taken so many wickets, clarke did pick 6 wickets in the past, Sehwag has picked a 5fer, Hardik Pandya picked 5 wickets when we toured England. I am pretty sure their are other instances too when part timers have picked 4 or 5 wickets. Pitch wasn't the greatest but even the batting was poor. Let us not forget India were 99-2. That was a total collapse.
We were slogging at the end and your own captain talked about the ball, not the pitch, but sure you know better than him.
Root wasn't unplayable by any means. Honestly, I doubt we showed and will ever show his bowling any respect (we do that to a lot of spinners) and that played a massive part in his numbers.
He's hardly going to come out and accuse India of cheating is he? He's far too much of a politician for that.
5 for 8 in a test match for a player of Roots standard is exceptional even if the opposition chose to throw their wickets away.
I watched his 5-for - there was nothing exceptional about it. Four were tailenders. Great figures but we were pretty much looking for quick runs at the end. Agnew himself says the pitch wasn't as bad as the one in the 2nd test.
I think the real issue has been the fact that the match got over in 2 days. Had India scored 250 then this talk wouldn't have been there to this extent. I do agree that such pitches shouldn't be made. But then was it the worst pitch ever seen, no?
