Yeah he can't just bend it for the host nation and not others.
England World Cup Discussion
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Yeah he can't just bend it for the host nation and not others.
Why not? Who's stopping him?
Oh dear
Oh yeah? Well Ingurland have JudeHarry KanlinghamNorway and Argentina are 1 man teams, however those particular men are Messi and Haaland
Eh. Not sure he's ever played that for us. Always with at least 2 midfielders behind him
So do we
Loved that performance. Bellingham and Gordon thrive in those kind of intense matches where you need runners who fight for every ball. You'd imagine that result will generate huge belief amongst the squad considering the obstacles they had to overcome.
Worth noting that Sir Gareth Southgate turned down countless media offers to be a pundit during the World Cup so as not to cause a distraction to the England squad and to tacitly support Thomas Tuchel.
If only some others could take note of that example.
If only some others could take note of that example.
I don’t understand why we have threads and posts all over this place with people declaring who they think is going to win the World Cup. Every time someone mentions England in that context, it’s jumped on as if it’s some kind of arrogant presumption.
I don’t really understand Southgates post England career decisions. Not that I’m saying I think he necessarily needs to be a pundit on television. But I am surprised he has taken such a long break from the game.
I don’t think he is getting a top job, equally I don’t think he is ego will allow him to work at what he may consider considered to be a lesser club.
Needing a break from football after being an international manager doesn’t really make sense as being an international manager inherently involves so many breaks by itself. I’m sure the intensity of a tournament is very stressful, but they happen once every two years.
If effectively three weeks work every 24 months requires him to have a multi year break from the game, then watch chairman in their right mind is ever going to appoint him to manage a team during a gruelling domestic season?
I think he probably regrets not stepping straight back into football during a period of time when he stock was sufficiently high enough that he could have got a very decent job at club level. Now he’s kind of painted himself into the corner of being someone almost definitely consigned to fairly minor consultancy roles previously given to the likes of Trevor Brooking at the football Association
Had forgotten this
I think theres probably a bit more to it than just 3 weeks every 2 years, given the endless cycle of qualifiers, Nations League and friendlies and preparation needed for the tournament itself. Plus dealing with the clubs is probably a job in itself. I reckon its just sheer mental burnout on his part. Plus him being England manager is probably the pinnacle of the profession in his eyes and he doesnt feel like he doesnt have the motivation anymore. Who knows?
You don't have Kane!
The weight of the England job and the mental pressure of it is one of the biggest in world football really. It's not surprising after c. 8 years of that he wanted to have a break or just not want to continue managing anymore.
FFS John Stones don't make me like you.
I’m not sure I buy lack of motivation. I think this long career break is as much to do with the fact it became quite clear that wasn’t going to be getting the calibre of offers that he presumed he may.
If Manchester United or Liverpool or one of the big Italian or Spanish sides were interested, I don’t think he would’ve taken that much time out of the game whatsoever.
Not really confident, but i believe we have a decent chance. And more importantly, i believe the more (over)confident the english are, the better our chances are.
I think you will definately be harder to beat than Brazil, mainly because Brazils defensive pressure was non-existent.
Curious to see the tactical set up of the two teams, as Norway has varied that a bit in the games so far.
So you think the England players are not taking Norway seriously and are "overconfident"? What are you basing that on?
You do realise the only ones in here who are talking like making the final is a formality for England are not England fans?
Is this true? Really classy move if so. Always seemed like a good bloke
Honestly haven’t been in the bio of every poster. However it reads for several they are rooting for England, being english or not.
But feel free to attribute it to my hope of overconfidence more than anything else.
But feel free to attribute it to my hope of overconfidence more than anything else.
Fair enough. I just wondered if there had been some comment from a player or something that spoke to being over confident.
I think everyone on both sides knows this is one hell of a tough game. After all the nonsense gone on in recent games, I hope Norway and England can have a cracker of a game in the right spirit.
Crossing my fingers for a fair and entertaining game, with no ref/var controversies.
I think Norway have one foot in the final. If Spain beat France they have one hand on the trophy. I'm very overconfident of that.
We've been battering the English for a thousand years I can't see why Saturday night will be any different.
We've been battering the English for a thousand years I can't see why Saturday night will be any different.
Most are just trolling so that when we do eventually get eliminated, they can have a laugh.
I think every England fan (at least on here) expects a tough game against Norway. I certainly would've preferred to face Brazil.
I think that familiarity probably means that England would rather have faced Norway than Brazil and probably Norway would’ve preferred to face England rather than Mexico.
It has nothing to do necessarily with the quality of either side, but it just makes things a lot easier to prepare when you have more of an understanding of the opposition
It has nothing to do necessarily with the quality of either side, but it just makes things a lot easier to prepare when you have more of an understanding of the opposition
More than half the Brazil starting XI from their last match played in the Premier League last season. They're definitely a known entity.
Henderson getting booked and then stretchered off without playing is the funniest fecking thing
Just Chalobah, Toney, Mainoo and the two goalkeepers with no minutes played.
I don't think anyone would make a coherent counter argument that England were anything but incredibly lucky to reach the final so that does inflate Southgate's resume a fair bit when he made lots of weird squad calls and team selections in that period.
I have to apologize to Gordon a bit. For sure did not see him as a starter for England. But games like that us where he is needed and his work rate is immense and he has quality at times. Great performance last night.
I think Sir Gareth went on record as saying that he didn´t want another job in football club management. It seemed like he had simply had enough of the 24/7 bubble footballers and managers live in.
From what I can gather he is just focused on family life and has compartmentalized his time in football and moved on from it.
It´s refreshing to see someone who could easily talk for days about England simply keep his counsel and allow the team to flourish. That is the way it should be.
And Real Madrid signed Gordon, where City got Anderson for stupid money and look what's he's been doing for England since.
Sorry when Did it happen he actually said he isn't interested in managing in PL unless it's at One of the top Clubs offcourse he is out of the job .
One of the most gutsy performances ever, having said that Norway will be inspired by beating Brazil. So need to reduce that supply line from Odegaard to Haaland.
Damn if that's true that's class.